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Trilby said:
Not watching to watch this new Reboot show, I see someone did a 'review' of those 10 episodes.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IbXEBsLm6GI
Interestingly, someone from Rainmaker Entertainment got through to the reviewer with this message....
"I feel you guys deserve an explanation and since I can't talk publicly about this without putting my job in danger I'll post this here where everyone will think I'm larping. Everybody that was working on this show knew this backlash was coming but Hefferon has his head so far up his ass he wouldn't listen to anybody and nobody could tell him to smarten up since he owns the whole company any idea he came up with was put in no matter how stupid, hell sometimes he brought his kid into reviews and had the kid give notes, also fun fact the main character shares a name with his kid and the main character's father's name is the name of his assistant. The production itself was a massive disaster as well, Hefferon got sold on using the unreal engine for lighting and rendering the series despite rainmaker having a superb traditional CG pipeline because the first ReBoot was the first CG show on TV he wanted to make this show a first as well so the first unreal game engine show on TV.

"To compound that problem those of us that came over from a traditional pipeline were given next to no training in unreal so we are figuring it out as we went along, the guy that was supposed to be the big know it all guy about unreal ended up being completely incompetent at his job but was great at kissing Michael's ass and creating conflicts by going behind the art and animation director's backs. Also wouldn't be surprised if a #MeToo story comes out about this guy as he was just creepy in general with the girls on the team. The project also went through a number of different art directors as they got fed up and quit due to the related issues this of course caused a lot of issues to the point where most environments in the show were just improvised off of single concept images. Also in the trailer you might notice some of the CG shots look extremely crappy and some look good, here's why that is. The creepy kiss up guy from earlier convinced Hefferon early on that reboot wouldn't need a team of lighters since "The game engine will do that automatically for us." So for the first few episodes there was no team dedicated to lighting the shots so it fell to the world builders to light those episodes and as no world building had any lighting experience you can see the results, after those episodes were complete they finally came to the realization that you actually need lighters to get good TV show level lighting so they hastily hired a team of lighters but because it was so late in the production schedule they had to hire basically anybody that applied so that means the majority of the lighters were straight out of school, and I don't think they finished up hiring that team till episode 11 or 12. Another reason for the crappy looking CG is because there was absolutely no training provided to the surfacing team on how shaders in unreal work, so you had them going in blind muddling their way through trying to figure out how to make ship work, hell the most any of us got to training in unreal for the whole project was about 2 weeks. I know to people outside the industry surfacing and lighting may not sound important but they are the subtle things that make something go from looking cheap and bad to looking good in CG.

"In summary the production was a complete cluster fuck with a CEO making all the decisions, refusing to listen to anybody just making his pet fantasy project about his self inserted son, but hey he got what he wanted, he can now say reboot the guardian code is the first ever show to be made with the unreal engine and rendered in 4k plus there is some VR stuff. Watch anytime he talks about the show he'll hit on those points, hell those are the points we've been told to hit on in the handout they gave us about how we're supposed to talk about the show in public.I'm very sorry about the product we put out there, I can't imagine how hard it is for long time fans of ReBoot to look at this abomination, if you're holding out any hope for this show don't, not only did the spit on the grave of ReBoot they did it in a badly written, badly acted show. If you're wondering if they tried to do anything to placate you guys, that'd be episode 10, they have all the old main characters in that episode but only that episode and it's just as badly written and acted as they other episodes. Do not watch this show, do not support this show or if you feel the need to satisfy your curiosity about it wait at least a month after release, netflix tends to make a decision on renewing for more seasons based on the numbers after about 2-4 weeks so the last thing this show needs is to do well out of morbid curiosity during those weeks and get another season."

Just so typical.
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What a shame. I was a big fan of the original series and its a shame that something so unique and artistically rewarding has been reduced to this.
 
JohnDoe said:
What a shame. I was a big fan of the original series and its a shame that something so unique and artistically rewarding has been reduced to this.
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It is, this whole show is basically a fuck you to a generation that should've moved on already, but of course fandom of this sort never do. The main boss of the company certainly wants this to be a fresh new entity for kids without much beyond a slight recognition of where it came from, but I guess that's how businesses work.
 
Trilby said:
It is, this whole show is basically a fuck you to a generation that should've moved on already, but of course fandom of this sort never do. The main boss of the company certainly wants this to be a fresh new entity for kids without much beyond a slight recognition of where it came from, but I guess that's how businesses work.
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Its a double edged sword; try to use the name recognition to pull in support, but it also gets the attention of the fans. The CEO wants to have his cake and eat it too, but it cannot work that way. If you want to embrace the nostalgia/fandom for hype and investors you have to carry that through in the final product or the backlash will be inevitable.

You would think that people commanding media production companies would have the pattern recognition skills of an infant and realize this, but alas, this is not the world in which we live.
 
Trilby said:
Not watching to watch this new Reboot show, I see someone did a 'review' of those 10 episodes.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IbXEBsLm6GI
Interestingly, someone from Rainmaker Entertainment got through to the reviewer with this message....
"I feel you guys deserve an explanation and since I can't talk publicly about this without putting my job in danger I'll post this here where everyone will think I'm larping. Everybody that was working on this show knew this backlash was coming but Hefferon has his head so far up his ass he wouldn't listen to anybody and nobody could tell him to smarten up since he owns the whole company any idea he came up with was put in no matter how stupid, hell sometimes he brought his kid into reviews and had the kid give notes, also fun fact the main character shares a name with his kid and the main character's father's name is the name of his assistant. The production itself was a massive disaster as well, Hefferon got sold on using the unreal engine for lighting and rendering the series despite rainmaker having a superb traditional CG pipeline because the first ReBoot was the first CG show on TV he wanted to make this show a first as well so the first unreal game engine show on TV.

"To compound that problem those of us that came over from a traditional pipeline were given next to no training in unreal so we are figuring it out as we went along, the guy that was supposed to be the big know it all guy about unreal ended up being completely incompetent at his job but was great at kissing Michael's ass and creating conflicts by going behind the art and animation director's backs. Also wouldn't be surprised if a #MeToo story comes out about this guy as he was just creepy in general with the girls on the team. The project also went through a number of different art directors as they got fed up and quit due to the related issues this of course caused a lot of issues to the point where most environments in the show were just improvised off of single concept images. Also in the trailer you might notice some of the CG shots look extremely crappy and some look good, here's why that is. The creepy kiss up guy from earlier convinced Hefferon early on that reboot wouldn't need a team of lighters since "The game engine will do that automatically for us." So for the first few episodes there was no team dedicated to lighting the shots so it fell to the world builders to light those episodes and as no world building had any lighting experience you can see the results, after those episodes were complete they finally came to the realization that you actually need lighters to get good TV show level lighting so they hastily hired a team of lighters but because it was so late in the production schedule they had to hire basically anybody that applied so that means the majority of the lighters were straight out of school, and I don't think they finished up hiring that team till episode 11 or 12. Another reason for the crappy looking CG is because there was absolutely no training provided to the surfacing team on how shaders in unreal work, so you had them going in blind muddling their way through trying to figure out how to make ship work, hell the most any of us got to training in unreal for the whole project was about 2 weeks. I know to people outside the industry surfacing and lighting may not sound important but they are the subtle things that make something go from looking cheap and bad to looking good in CG.

"In summary the production was a complete cluster fuck with a CEO making all the decisions, refusing to listen to anybody just making his pet fantasy project about his self inserted son, but hey he got what he wanted, he can now say reboot the guardian code is the first ever show to be made with the unreal engine and rendered in 4k plus there is some VR stuff. Watch anytime he talks about the show he'll hit on those points, hell those are the points we've been told to hit on in the handout they gave us about how we're supposed to talk about the show in public.I'm very sorry about the product we put out there, I can't imagine how hard it is for long time fans of ReBoot to look at this abomination, if you're holding out any hope for this show don't, not only did the spit on the grave of ReBoot they did it in a badly written, badly acted show. If you're wondering if they tried to do anything to placate you guys, that'd be episode 10, they have all the old main characters in that episode but only that episode and it's just as badly written and acted as they other episodes. Do not watch this show, do not support this show or if you feel the need to satisfy your curiosity about it wait at least a month after release, netflix tends to make a decision on renewing for more seasons based on the numbers after about 2-4 weeks so the last thing this show needs is to do well out of morbid curiosity during those weeks and get another season."

Just so typical.
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I barely remember Reboot, so I can't say I'm a massive fan of the show, but I do have some good memories of it. So it is a little sad to see what was a show with a cool concept turn into something generic.

Also Tony Jay's character design change. Yeeeuch. What was wrong with his old design?
 
Well holy shit, Final Space just went all Cthulhu mythos on the story.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
Well holy shit, Final Space just went all Cthulhu mythos on the story.
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Speaking of which, I saw more of the show and I'm thinking it's actually pretty good now. The writing still can be hit or miss at times but I either got used to it or it got better in general. Might be both. It's also a rarity for shows these days to actually be serialized and the animation is generally good as well. I guess it's one of those shows that grows on you.
 
Sigma said:
Speaking of which, I saw more of the show and I'm thinking it's actually pretty good now. The writing still can be hit or miss at times but I either got used to it or it got better in general. Might be both. It's also a rarity for shows these days to actually be serialized and the animation is generally good as well. I guess it's one of those shows that grows on you.
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It’s definitely a more slow-burn series. I’m hoping it gets renewed for another season, because I’ve really enjoyed where the story’s been going. Characters have really grown on me too, the ship’s A.I. is easily one of my favorites.
 
Today is Bill "Eek" Kopp's birthday, let's celebrate with a sample of his early student work!
 
Just watched Final Space and couldn't make it passed the first episode. I've never seen such an unlikable main animated character in my life. At least Rick and Morty are some what tolerable and likable.

I hate autistic Gary.
 
I was checking out the trailer for the new upcoming episodes of Ducktales and at 0:43 I noticed there were sky pirates. Basically, the kid in me was excited since this might be the chance we could see Don Karnage (yes, I know he was a Tale Spin villain).
 
Quijibo69 said:
Just watched Final Space and couldn't make it passed the first episode. I've never seen such an unlikable main animated character in my life. At least Rick and Morty are some what tolerable and likable.

I hate autistic Gary.
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I was like you but I watched more of it out of recommendation and I really think it does get significantly better. If you can stomach it, you might want to give it more of a shot.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
I was checking out the trailer for the new upcoming episodes of Ducktales and at 0:43 I noticed there were sky pirates. Basically, the kid in me was excited since this might be the chance we could see Don Karnage (yes, I know he was a Tale Spin villain).
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hJNPI8AAttE
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Looks like you'll get your wish!

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https://www.facebook.com/DisneyTVANews/videos/1894617703892321/
 
Quijibo69 said:
Just watched Final Space and couldn't make it passed the first episode. I've never seen such an unlikable main animated character in my life. At least Rick and Morty are some what tolerable and likable.

I hate autistic Gary.
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I give the excuse of “being alone on a spaceship for 5 years with only a robot to talk to will make you a bit crazy and desperate to talk to someone”.

Even if it’s yourself.

But hey, not for everyone. I personally really enjoy it.
 
Trilby said:
Looks like you'll get your wish!

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https://www.facebook.com/DisneyTVANews/videos/1894617703892321/
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Excuse me while I geek out.
It's happening. A shared Disney Afternoon universe.

On another note, anyone here who watched Craig of the creek? I watched one or two episodes now and I have to say, I like it. Nothing special, but I think it has a nice good feel to it and tries to be imaginative. One episode I watched had a kid creating a giant mecha out of cardboard. Feels very Recess like in parts.
Can't believe this show is made by people who worked on Steven Universe
 
UglyOldJafar said:
Excuse me while I geek out.
It's happening. A shared Disney Afternoon universe.
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The show did mention several towns like Cape Suzete and Spoonerville and they say Darkwing Duck will make an apperance so Im happy about that. I hope they keep Don Karnage's original voice actor. (I enjoyed his French-Italian accent.)
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
The show did mention several towns like Cape Suzete and Spoonerville and they say Darkwing Duck will make an apperance so Im happy about that. I hope they keep Don Karnage's original voice actor. (I enjoyed his French-Italian accent.)
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I know Jim's coming back as Darkwing (as far as I know, anyways), so I think they'll keep him for Don Karnage if/when he appears.

I mean Donald's still got his usual actor for the series, so I don't see why they wouldn't.
 
Jewelsmakerguy said:
I know Jim's coming back as Darkwing (as far as I know, anyways), so I think they'll keep him for Don Karnage if/when he appears.

I mean Donald's still got his usual actor for the series, so I don't see why they wouldn't.
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It would be a little dumb not to ask Jim to do it, he is THE Don Karnage we know and love. It was a very distinctive and unique voice that felt like blurried enthnicities fighting each other.
 
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