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Not watching to watch this new Reboot show, I see someone did a 'review' of those 10 episodes.

Interestingly, someone from Rainmaker Entertainment got through to the reviewer with this message....
"I feel you guys deserve an explanation and since I can't talk publicly about this without putting my job in danger I'll post this here where everyone will think I'm larping. Everybody that was working on this show knew this backlash was coming but Hefferon has his head so far up his ass he wouldn't listen to anybody and nobody could tell him to smarten up since he owns the whole company any idea he came up with was put in no matter how stupid, hell sometimes he brought his kid into reviews and had the kid give notes, also fun fact the main character shares a name with his kid and the main character's father's name is the name of his assistant. The production itself was a massive disaster as well, Hefferon got sold on using the unreal engine for lighting and rendering the series despite rainmaker having a superb traditional CG pipeline because the first ReBoot was the first CG show on TV he wanted to make this show a first as well so the first unreal game engine show on TV.

"To compound that problem those of us that came over from a traditional pipeline were given next to no training in unreal so we are figuring it out as we went along, the guy that was supposed to be the big know it all guy about unreal ended up being completely incompetent at his job but was great at kissing Michael's ass and creating conflicts by going behind the art and animation director's backs. Also wouldn't be surprised if a #MeToo story comes out about this guy as he was just creepy in general with the girls on the team. The project also went through a number of different art directors as they got fed up and quit due to the related issues this of course caused a lot of issues to the point where most environments in the show were just improvised off of single concept images. Also in the trailer you might notice some of the CG shots look extremely crappy and some look good, here's why that is. The creepy kiss up guy from earlier convinced Hefferon early on that reboot wouldn't need a team of lighters since "The game engine will do that automatically for us." So for the first few episodes there was no team dedicated to lighting the shots so it fell to the world builders to light those episodes and as no world building had any lighting experience you can see the results, after those episodes were complete they finally came to the realization that you actually need lighters to get good TV show level lighting so they hastily hired a team of lighters but because it was so late in the production schedule they had to hire basically anybody that applied so that means the majority of the lighters were straight out of school, and I don't think they finished up hiring that team till episode 11 or 12. Another reason for the crappy looking CG is because there was absolutely no training provided to the surfacing team on how shaders in unreal work, so you had them going in blind muddling their way through trying to figure out how to make ship work, hell the most any of us got to training in unreal for the whole project was about 2 weeks. I know to people outside the industry surfacing and lighting may not sound important but they are the subtle things that make something go from looking cheap and bad to looking good in CG.

"In summary the production was a complete cluster fuck with a CEO making all the decisions, refusing to listen to anybody just making his pet fantasy project about his self inserted son, but hey he got what he wanted, he can now say reboot the guardian code is the first ever show to be made with the unreal engine and rendered in 4k plus there is some VR stuff. Watch anytime he talks about the show he'll hit on those points, hell those are the points we've been told to hit on in the handout they gave us about how we're supposed to talk about the show in public.I'm very sorry about the product we put out there, I can't imagine how hard it is for long time fans of ReBoot to look at this abomination, if you're holding out any hope for this show don't, not only did the spit on the grave of ReBoot they did it in a badly written, badly acted show. If you're wondering if they tried to do anything to placate you guys, that'd be episode 10, they have all the old main characters in that episode but only that episode and it's just as badly written and acted as they other episodes. Do not watch this show, do not support this show or if you feel the need to satisfy your curiosity about it wait at least a month after release, netflix tends to make a decision on renewing for more seasons based on the numbers after about 2-4 weeks so the last thing this show needs is to do well out of morbid curiosity during those weeks and get another season."

Just so typical.
 
Not watching to watch this new Reboot show, I see someone did a 'review' of those 10 episodes.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IbXEBsLm6GI
Interestingly, someone from Rainmaker Entertainment got through to the reviewer with this message....
"I feel you guys deserve an explanation and since I can't talk publicly about this without putting my job in danger I'll post this here where everyone will think I'm larping. Everybody that was working on this show knew this backlash was coming but Hefferon has his head so far up his ass he wouldn't listen to anybody and nobody could tell him to smarten up since he owns the whole company any idea he came up with was put in no matter how stupid, hell sometimes he brought his kid into reviews and had the kid give notes, also fun fact the main character shares a name with his kid and the main character's father's name is the name of his assistant. The production itself was a massive disaster as well, Hefferon got sold on using the unreal engine for lighting and rendering the series despite rainmaker having a superb traditional CG pipeline because the first ReBoot was the first CG show on TV he wanted to make this show a first as well so the first unreal game engine show on TV.

"To compound that problem those of us that came over from a traditional pipeline were given next to no training in unreal so we are figuring it out as we went along, the guy that was supposed to be the big know it all guy about unreal ended up being completely incompetent at his job but was great at kissing Michael's ass and creating conflicts by going behind the art and animation director's backs. Also wouldn't be surprised if a #MeToo story comes out about this guy as he was just creepy in general with the girls on the team. The project also went through a number of different art directors as they got fed up and quit due to the related issues this of course caused a lot of issues to the point where most environments in the show were just improvised off of single concept images. Also in the trailer you might notice some of the CG shots look extremely crappy and some look good, here's why that is. The creepy kiss up guy from earlier convinced Hefferon early on that reboot wouldn't need a team of lighters since "The game engine will do that automatically for us." So for the first few episodes there was no team dedicated to lighting the shots so it fell to the world builders to light those episodes and as no world building had any lighting experience you can see the results, after those episodes were complete they finally came to the realization that you actually need lighters to get good TV show level lighting so they hastily hired a team of lighters but because it was so late in the production schedule they had to hire basically anybody that applied so that means the majority of the lighters were straight out of school, and I don't think they finished up hiring that team till episode 11 or 12. Another reason for the crappy looking CG is because there was absolutely no training provided to the surfacing team on how shaders in unreal work, so you had them going in blind muddling their way through trying to figure out how to make ship work, hell the most any of us got to training in unreal for the whole project was about 2 weeks. I know to people outside the industry surfacing and lighting may not sound important but they are the subtle things that make something go from looking cheap and bad to looking good in CG.

"In summary the production was a complete cluster fuck with a CEO making all the decisions, refusing to listen to anybody just making his pet fantasy project about his self inserted son, but hey he got what he wanted, he can now say reboot the guardian code is the first ever show to be made with the unreal engine and rendered in 4k plus there is some VR stuff. Watch anytime he talks about the show he'll hit on those points, hell those are the points we've been told to hit on in the handout they gave us about how we're supposed to talk about the show in public.I'm very sorry about the product we put out there, I can't imagine how hard it is for long time fans of ReBoot to look at this abomination, if you're holding out any hope for this show don't, not only did the spit on the grave of ReBoot they did it in a badly written, badly acted show. If you're wondering if they tried to do anything to placate you guys, that'd be episode 10, they have all the old main characters in that episode but only that episode and it's just as badly written and acted as they other episodes. Do not watch this show, do not support this show or if you feel the need to satisfy your curiosity about it wait at least a month after release, netflix tends to make a decision on renewing for more seasons based on the numbers after about 2-4 weeks so the last thing this show needs is to do well out of morbid curiosity during those weeks and get another season."

Just so typical.

That was some good criticism there - not someone I'd subscribe to right away, however. Still, I liked how calm, collected, and well on-point he was with how bad this show is, compared to what came before it and how awesome that once was.
 
That was some good criticism there - not someone I'd subscribe to right away, however. Still, I liked how calm, collected, and well on-point he was with how bad this show is, compared to what came before it and how awesome that once was.
And why guys with money always think they know what's best.
 
Seeing the new ReBoot reminded me of Van Pires, a stupid TV show about Vampire Trucks. The one good thing about the show thing was that the music director was John Entwistle, the Bass Guitarist for The Who. As such when putting together Music for the Show we actually got some epic music, particularly since a few songs had Keith Moon on the drums due to John deciding to use the drums on the demo version (Keith would occasionally drum on John's demos to return the favor). One of my favorites from the show is Back on the Road which you can listen to here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rql9D07zb-o
 
"Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a reboot out of my hat!"

"But that trick never works!"

"This time for sure... Presto!"

 
The voice of Rocky kinda sucks.
I'm sure it's hard to replace the late June Foray.

I know there's too many reboots lately when they reboot something off the wall like Rocky and Bullwinkle.
I'm sure they're scraping the bottom of the barrel here.

Speaking of June Foray, here's something I hope you'll REALLY like!
 
The voice of Rocky kinda sucks. I know there's too many reboots lately when they reboot something off the wall like Rocky and Bullwinkle.
Honestly, they could have done much better than Tara if they really wanted to do this. Though I think the better option would not to have done so to begin with.

We didn't need another reboot when other shows (such as well... Reboot) failed spectacularly.
 
Honestly, they could have done much better than Tara if they really wanted to do this. Though I think the better option would not to have done so to begin with.

We didn't need another reboot when other shows (such as well... Reboot) failed spectacularly.

I kind of believe it could be good and have even a fraction of the cleverness and wit the original did. This one could actually work.
 
Yeah - I'm not too terribly interested in this new Rocky & Bullwinkle series due out soon. It doesn't look like anything special and feels like it only exists to compensate for something that's clearly not worth doing so. It looks no better / competent than the recent Mr. Peabody & Sherman revival, so even if it isn't complete crap after all that's said and done, it'll likely be forgotten as soon as it concludes its 1st season. That just means more resources and talent wasted that could have been used for something actually original. Pretty much the same story as Mr. Peabody & Sherman's misstep into the new (current) generation.
 
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Yeah - I'm not too terribly interested in this new Rocky & Bullwinkle series due out soon. It doesn't look like anything special and feels like it only exists to compensate for something that's clearly not worth doing so. It looks no better / competent than the recent Mr. Peabody & Sherman revival, so even if it isn't complete crap after all that's said and done, it'll likely be forgotten as soon as it concludes its 1st season. That just means more resources and talent wasted that could have been used for something actually original. Pretty much the same story as Mr. Peabody & Sherman's misstep into the new (current) generation.
I suppose that's always been Hollywood's problem for quite a while not. Not giving anyone a chance to do something original when they feel rebooting an exisiting IP is a safer bet than something that's untested.
 
About the Rocky & Bullwinkle reboot, I'm just more worried about the Tumblrinas getting their filthy hands on it and making a toxic environment for R&B fans. :c
 
About the Rocky & Bullwinkle reboot, I'm just more worried about the Tumblrinas getting their filthy hands on it and making a toxic environment for R&B fans. :c

Does it look like the sort of thing that Tumblrites would squeal over? I think they'll leave it alone.

(Frankly, I'm only worried about its quality, and all I'm certain of is it won't be like that George of the Jungle reboot CN once had. They'd better at least try to include some of the other segments from the original.)
 
Does it look like the sort of thing that Tumblrites would squeal over? I think they'll leave it alone.

(Frankly, I'm only worried about its quality, and all I'm certain of is it won't be like that George of the Jungle reboot CN once had. They'd better at least try to include some of the other segments from the original.)
It be nice if they did, the beauty of R&B was those added segments! I suppose I'm showing my age since this was a show I used to stay up late Saturday nights to watch as a station in my town stuck it at 11PM (with "G.L.O.W." airing afterwards). Somehow that gave me a sense I was watching something my forbidden by my parents!
 
Is 2018 the year of animated reboots of things that were cartoons on television in the 1960s and then, over 30 years later, got live-action movies in the year 2000 but now are back to being animated again?

The above statement applies to both Rocky and Bullwinkle and How the Grinch Stole Christmas. It sort of also applies to Scooby Doo but that's already had a slew of animated productions made since the 2000 live-action movie and the 2002 sequel (which was better than the first one).

For what it's worth, the late Roger Ebert gave the 2000 The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle movie a surprise thumbs-up, though Richard Roeper mostly hated it.

 
Is 2018 the year of animated reboots of things that were cartoons on television in the 1960s and then, over 30 years later, got live-action movies in the year 2000 but now are back to being animated again?

The above statement applies to both Rocky and Bullwinkle and How the Grinch Stole Christmas. It sort of also applies to Scooby Doo but that's already had a slew of animated productions made since the 2000 live-action movie and the 2002 sequel (which was better than the first one).

For what it's worth, the late Roger Ebert gave the 2000 The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle movie a surprise thumbs-up, though Richard Roeper mostly hated it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OxV4n6p6hMI

The Rocky and Bullwinkle movie wasn't that bad. It tried to capture the style of humor the original show was known for, and succeeded to an extent. (The Jay Ward movies were actually kind of better than most other live-action versions of cartoons. The Disney George of the Jungle film was pretty good, too.)

The Scooby-Doo movie was 2002 actually.
 
The Rocky and Bullwinkle movie wasn't that bad. It tried to capture the style of humor the original show was known for, and succeeded to an extent.

I saw the Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle movie on... I probably shouldn't name the Twitch streamer who was almost certainly breaking a rule of service or two... some guy's stream a few years ago. It was very much a "some bits were pretty good, some bits were pretty bad" kind of movie, though the streamer absolutely hated it.

The Scooby-Doo movie was 2002 actually.

Yeah, you're right, I was conflating the release date of the first one (2002) with Monsters Unleashed (2004). Monsters Unleashed wasn't that great but it at least featured the most memorable villains from the first season or two of the TV series so it was automatically better than the first movie.
 
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