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Kari Kamiya said:
So I watched one of the videos in the other thread, and in it John K. mentions how upset he was that he couldn't draw sexy girls much in the industry in the 80s. And it really is no secret that (male) animators tend to draw up all the pin-up girls as they want in between work--fine, whatever, but the way John kept gesturing to Ms. Rice while talking about it was extremely uncomfortable.

So this is making me a little paranoid now because I'm worried Chris Sanders (Lilo & Stitch, The Croods) may have similar skeletons in his closet. Far as I know he has a much more positive reputation than John by a landslide, but I just remembered Sanders' portfolio site and that I had checked it out ages ago only once because it weirded me out a bit--yet that didn't deter me from still enjoying his work. And I know he draws all his female characters in a similar, chunky fashion, including the underage characters. I haven't been hearing of what he's been up to lately, like I don't think he was actually in charge of directing The Croods 2 before its cancellation, still, with how rampant the #MeToo allegations have been going on including affecting John Lasseter, it's only a matter of time before another critically-acclaimed animator gets accused. And Sanders, unfortunately, seems like he'd be on that list. :c

I mean yeah, it'd be much more hard-hitting if someone like Eric Goldberg or Don Bluth was revealed to be a predator, but still...

Fuck.
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I haven't heard any rumors about him... (but who knows?)
 
Trilby said:
Such a shame when it's people you once admired.
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True, but John's already had a sordid history between burning his bridges with Nick (and later Viacom itself), the whole "Cans with Labels" debacle, and the whole thing with Katie Rice.

Thing is, I'm not surprised that this happened. I mean John does come off as seedy as his cartoons. It's that it took as long as it did to come into light. I guess the whole thing in Hollywood, and especially with Dan "I get paid for my fetishes" Schneider, just made it apt timing.
 
Jewelsmakerguy said:
True, but John's already had a sordid history between burning his bridges with Nick (and later Viacom itself), the whole "Cans with Labels" debacle, and the whole thing with Katie Rice.

Thing is, I'm not surprised that this happened. I mean John does come off as seedy as his cartoons. It's that it took as long as it did to come into light. I guess the whole thing in Hollywood, and especially with Dan "I get paid for my fetishes" Schneider, just made it apt timing.
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I thought it'd come out eventually. I knew something like this had happened, but considering how John K., even before this, was essentially a pariah, with no network willing to let him work for them, I didn't think that it'd get as much coverage as it has.
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
I was expecting this to drop for a while. After everything else the man's done this should be no surprise.

(Amazingly, on social media, there's a lot of people who seem unaware of the fact that John K.'s a complete tool and seem to be surprised about this. Now you're turning on him? Now after half the shit he's done?)
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If he were preying on grown women, he'd probably still be a "misunderstood genius" at best.
 
aqua sama said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=id=rDYbwdEn7rs;t=0
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Are these produced as "interstitials", the industry term for short form programming often used to fill gaps between shows in schedules?

The most famous interstitials from American television may be Schoolhouse Rock (though those were also produced with certain 1970s FCC quotas for educational content in children's television in mind, so that the ABC Saturday Morning Cartoons they aired in between didn't have to be "educational").
 
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sasazuka said:
Are these produced as "interstitials", the industry term for short form programming often used to fill gaps between shows in schedules?

The most famous interstitials from American television may be Schoolhouse Rock (though those were also produced with certain 1970s FCC quotas for educational content in children's television in mind, so that the ABC Saturday Morning Cartoons they aired in between didn't have to be "educational").
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No, it's just a web series, but I think it should be aired on tv, because it is sonic at its best.
Too bad sega does not understand it.
 
sasazuka said:
Are these produced as "interstitials", the industry term for short form programming often used to fill gaps between shows in schedules?
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Probably. A more recent equivalent to these might be the Mickey Mouse shorts on Disney Channel.

The most famous interstitials from American television may be Schoolhouse Rock (though those were also produced with certain 1970s FCC quotas for educational content in children's television in mind, so that the ABC Saturday Morning Cartoons they aired in between didn't have to be "educational").
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The same guildelines that brought us "In The News" on CBS as well.
 
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Well the new cartoon show Craig of the Creek finally aired. It sort of cute but the style reminds me too much of steven universe. I dont know if its going to last long or cartoon network just treats it like it treats all of its other shows like okayko or SU and forget it in favor of TTG.
 
Trilby said:
The same guildelines that brought us "In The News" on CBS as well.
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I'm trying to remember, what did NBC do in the 1970s and 1980s to meet the educational content requirements for Saturday Morning (and before you say "The More You Know", I don't think those started until the late 1980s at the very earliest unless there's an earlier version I'm forgetting without the CGI logo)?

EDIT: Oh, right, "One to Grow On" was what NBC had before "The More You Know", and, before that, they also had "Metric Marvels", animation produced by the same team that did Schoolhouse Rock except it exclusively focused on introducing Americans to the metric system.

 
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sasazuka said:
I'm trying to remember, what did NBC do in the 1970s and 1980s to meet the educational content requirements for Saturday Morning (and before you say "The More You Know", I don't think those started until the late 1980s at the very earliest unless there's an earlier version I'm forgetting without the CGI logo)?

EDIT: Oh, right, "One to Grow On" was what NBC had before "The More You Know",
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Yep, how soon we forget!

and, before that, they also had "Metric Marvels", animation produced by the same team that did Schoolhouse Rock except it exclusively focused on introducing Americans to the metric system.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bDaZNPpPfmg
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NBC also tried a similar odd news thing called 'Ask NBC News". Nothing like what CBS did.

Of course ABC also had other little short ditties also used like "Time For Timer", "The Bod Squad", "The Dough Nuts", "Computer Critters" and more.
 
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Fandom Trash said:
Well the new cartoon show Craig of the Creek finally aired. It sort of cute but the style reminds me too much of steven universe. I dont know if its going to last long or cartoon network just treats it like it treats all of its other shows like okayko or SU and forget it in favor of TTG.
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:autism: away...

I admit I like it more than Clarence so far (but that's easy to pull off when you write your MC to be smart (enough), something Clarence (as much as I still like it and am going to miss it once it's truly gone) did certainly miss the mark on.)).

Hell, I definitely like it more than The Loud House, anyway - simply because it's legit good and feels like it knows what it wants to be right out of the starting gate.

I definitely expect it to not get enough airtime or promotion unless it's a massive hit with the kids, though. That's pretty obvious.
 
sasazuka said:
Wait, why did ABC need the Computer Critters when they already had Scooter Computer and Mr. Chips?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9Uc1IvU5fd8
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Do you know, for the longest time that episode was thought to be lost. I had the Schoolhouse Rock DVD; everything was on it but that. (The audio, admittedly, wasn't.)
 
sasazuka said:
Wait, why did ABC need the Computer Critters when they already had Scooter Computer and Mr. Chips?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9Uc1IvU5fd8
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Who knows. Perhaps they forgot they put one of these into production before the other. Reminded I once saw a Scooter Computer and Mr. Chips coloring book Golden Press put out in the 80's.
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Steamboat_Bill said:
Do you know, for the longest time that episode was thought to be lost. I had the Schoolhouse Rock DVD; everything was on it but that. (The audio, admittedly, wasn't.)
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It's a shame when things go missing. Someone else who voiced Scooter Computer in this had previously uploaded the episode himself. Odd ABC would lose this episode in particular, also interesting they didn't ask this person for his copy if they tried to search for it (much like the search it took to find those audio masters of the Schoolhouse Rock songs that were left in someone's barn).

And of course nothing says Edu-tainment on ABC than Cap'n O. G. Readmore!

The character would also appear in nearly a half-dozen TV specials as well as co-hosting the "ABC Weekend Specials" for a number of years.
 
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Easter Is, the 1971 Lutheran animated TV special where Waldo the dog getting kidnapped and then escaping is an analogy for Jesus's Crucifixion and resurrection somehow.

 
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