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More toddler and me movie reviews

Super Mario Galaxy (2026): 7/10
After peach's castle gets effed up, there's just way too much going on at every possible second for me. The constant camera motion gave me a headache. Bowser Jr. is my fav Mario character, so I was endeared by the father-son arc between him and Bowser. I found it interesting that there was less (zero?) pop culture songs and the OST relied almost entirely on existing Mario compositions. I am immune to nostalgia so I was more annoyed than impressed at the constant cameos. I think my toddler's favorite character is Mario himself. Still it's fine and I got desensitized to the stimulation after a few watches. Idk why they hired incapable celebs to be the VAs for Peach and Rosalina. They're both devoid of emotion and don't seem to understand the context of their lines. My toddler and husband enjoyed the movie much more than me. Anyway, I'm hoping for a Luigi's Mansion movie next.

Shrek 2 (2004): 7.5/10
It's funny and aged much better than the first film in terms of visuals. Toddler asked to watch this one more times than the first film. I don't have much to say abt it. There's a lot of go here and do that and then next thing. I played the videogame of this movie so much I guess it's just burned into my brain and it doesn't tickle me the same way it used to.

Shrek Forever After (2010): 7/10
I had never seen this movie before and didn't know anything about it going in. I thought it was pretty great. It had some of my favorite fairy tale characters namely Rumpelstiltskin and the Pied Piper. It was thrilling and silly. It felt like a direct-to-dvd story though. Barbarian ogre Fiona GOAT.

Ratatouille (2007): 10/10
Perfect movie. You can see Pixar showing off their technology in this one esp the toon-shading and hair and fluid dynamics. Everything is white and copper and feels so warm and clean. All the characters are fun to look at. I have autistic misgivings with the rats... but at least during the climax of the film Remy sterilizes all the rats before they touch anything. And Gusteau's getting shut down despite impressing Ego was the best resolution. It's a movie about authenticity and humbling yourself. I could prob write a 5 hour YouTube essay about this film. Hell, I made ratatouille after I first saw the film 10ish years ago. Toddler is asking for this one most of all rn. "Mouse movie? Mouse movie?"

Toddler wanting to consistently watch movies that I rate highly is interesting. People say kids have bad taste. Maybe she's just picking up on subtle cues from me. Well, I haven't unloaded Frozen yet. I wonder how she'd like it. I hate it so much lmao.
 
Castoreum said:
Shrek 2 (2004): 7.5/10
It's funny and aged much better than the first film in terms of visuals. Toddler asked to watch this one more times than the first film. I don't have much to say abt it. There's a lot of go here and do that and then next thing. I played the videogame of this movie so much I guess it's just burned into my brain and it doesn't tickle me the same way it used to.
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The original Shrek is much more of a mean spirited parody, you can practically feel the spite at points. I can see the appeal when that was a rare concept and Disney was at the top of the world, but I don't think it's aged well. I rewatched it some years back and have no desire to watch it again.

Shrek 2 is more of an independent fractured fairytale and I think that's made it much more timeless despite the pop culture references. Stuff like Puss in Boots' role isn't even fractured, it's just using a fairytale as it was and making jokes about it. It's much funnier because half the jokes aren't just "that was more unpleasant than you expected!" and the Fairy Godmother is a much better villain since her entire shtick isn't that she's a loser.
 
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Heh.
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I haven’t seen Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, but why is it that out of all the good things I’ve heard about it, the only thing other writers seems to take away from it was the realistic panic attack?
 
Grand Duke Snowfall said:
Heh.
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I haven’t seen Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, but why is it that out of all the good things I’ve heard about it, the only thing other writers seems to take away from it was the realistic panic attack?
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The panic attack in that movie works because it's built up and followed up perfectly. During Puss' first fight with the Wolf, he's overwhelmed and confused because the very concept of being afraid is alien to a "fearless legend" like Puss in Boots. Puss' quest for the Wishing Star is seemingly a way to reclaim his title as a legend, only for his fear to slowly bubble up the more he sees the Wolf throughout his journey. It's only after his fear reaches a boiling point that he has the panic attack and needs to be comforted by Perrito (another plot element that was hinted at earlier because Perrito said he wanted to be a therapy dog). After he calms down, we get character development from Puss through him admitting he's genuinely afraid of being down to his last life. This later transitions to his fear being justified when he learns that the Wolf is really Death himself, only to face it head-on by fighting Death to a standstill.

In other words, it's not the panic attack itself that's important, but rather, the context that surrounds it.
 
Grand Duke Snowfall said:
Heh.
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I haven’t seen Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, but why is it that out of all the good things I’ve heard about it, the only thing other writers seems to take away from it was the realistic panic attack?
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Because ever since Steven Universe, all indie writers all know is "muh feelings!" and they're always blatantly copying each other because indies have no originality.
Hence why everyone apes TLW without understanding the point of that scene.
 
Castoreum said:
Toddler wanting to consistently watch movies that I rate highly is interesting. People say kids have bad taste. Maybe she's just picking up on subtle cues from me. Well, I haven't unloaded Frozen yet. I wonder how she'd like it. I hate it so much lmao.
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Tangled is the superior film of that era.
 
Scientifically Inaccurate said:
The original Shrek is much more of a mean spirited parody, you can practically feel the spite at points. I can see the appeal when that was a rare concept and Disney was at the top of the world, but I don't think it's aged well. I rewatched it some years back and have no desire to watch it again.
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That's because the first movie was an act of spite by a guy who had a falling out with the Disney company.
 
Grand Duke Snowfall said:
Heh.
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I haven’t seen Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, but why is it that out of all the good things I’ve heard about it, the only thing other writers seems to take away from it was the realistic panic attack?
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Because The last Wish was a rare case of critically aclaimed children animation so millenials and cartoon reviewers took the wrong lesson and think it's "deep and mature" because it's depiction of panic attack is more realistic than adult shows and movies, with the choice comparison being, at the time, Velma. There are dozens of videos about it.

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It also has some good villains that became overrated due to the internet praising it as "revolutionary" for having a funny unsympathetic villain and a scary villain (these people need to watch more than steven universe).

It's a film about a cartoon cat growing old and missing his glory days, then coming up to terms with his mortality and staying with his family. It works both narratively and in a meta sense because Puss' last movie was 11 years ago.
 
I hate the cartoon nerd cope that the childrens media they watch is actually super dark and not really for kids. I watched Puss in Boots when it was in theater, and I liked it, but it's definitely for kids. Why is that so hard for them to admit?
 
A Grey Cat said:
Got recommended this on youtube a new pac man web short, it's been out for 3 days an nobody's talking about it.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ul7VVZrc7Lg
I'm only a few seconds into a 3 minute short so I'm not sure what to make of it yet, the comments are calling it peak but i can trust youtube comments as far as I can throw them. I'll say this it looks way better (animation wise that is) than pac man and the ghostly adventures.
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Ought to give them credit for remembering the green character from "Pac & Pal".
 
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Someone on /co/ told me to watch Troll Hunters.
The first episode was the same fucking issue I has with Cleopatra In Space, where it just felt like a million other shows with no original ideas or scenes at all and it took fucking forever just to get through it without killing myself.
 
LucasSomething said:
It also has some good villains that became overrated due to the internet praising it as "revolutionary" for having a funny unsympathetic villain and a scary villain (these people need to watch more than steven universe).
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Like the Velma comparison, the villains from other major animation studios like Disney were pretty lousy. Most of the 2010 Disney villains were either last-minute twists or generational trauma. It was pretty easy for The Last Wish to stand out with three well-written villains.
 
Ultraman Orb Dark said:
Like the Velma comparison, the villains from other major animation studios like Disney were pretty lousy. Most of the 2010 Disney villains were either last-minute twists or generational trauma. It was pretty easy for The Last Wish to stand out with three well-written villains.
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The Last Wish was a great film but I think you've hit the nail on the head that it hit the market during a particularly dry period and people forgot what a competent movie looks like. So now it's being heralded as revolutionary when all it really is is a return to form.
 
LucasSomething said:
Because The last Wish was a rare case of critically aclaimed children animation so millenials and cartoon reviewers took the wrong lesson and think it's "deep and mature" because it's depiction of panic attack is more realistic than adult shows and movies, with the choice comparison being, at the time, Velma. There are dozens of videos about it.

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*spongebob baby rollercoaster gif*

It also has some good villains that became overrated due to the internet praising it as "revolutionary" for having a funny unsympathetic villain and a scary villain (these people need to watch more than steven universe).

It's a film about a cartoon cat growing old and missing his glory days, then coming up to terms with his mortality and staying with his family. It works both narratively and in a meta sense because Puss' last movie was 11 years ago.
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Let's also not forget furrys going crazy over Death. Those people are fully controlled by their libido.
 
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