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What was this shit about Marge dying? I guess it was this future thing? I'm a lazy bum that prefer the intelligence and demeanor of the farmers.
 
deeman said:
What was this shit about Marge dying? I guess it was this future thing? I'm a lazy bum that prefer the intelligence and demeanor of the farmers.
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Yes, there was an episode called Estranger Things that aired back in May about a hypothetical future where Bart and Lisa drift apart when Itchy and Scratchy becomes lame and only reconnect after Marge dies. She watches from Heaven and makes out with Ringo Starr.
It's meaningless as modern Simpsons is constantly doing off-the-wall shit to stir up buzz (please read the plot summary for "Love Is a Many Strangled Thing", and that was 2011) that ends up being written off or non-canon- and usually no one gives a shit because no one is actually watching and it just exists to sell merchandise- but for some reason a bunch of news sites had a slow day or something and dug that one back up.
I bet the writers are just wondering where the fuck the publicity was when the episode actually aired.
 
Outer Space Traveller said:
Why should anyone care about a show made for toddlers, and this much? Are they troons? If so, explains a lot.
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Unironically autism. It has to be. That's the only thing that explains this level of hyper-fixation on anything, never mind a show made for literal babies.
RedDelicious said:
Yes, there was an episode called Estranger Things that aired back in May about a hypothetical future where Bart and Lisa drift apart when Itchy and Scratchy becomes lame and only reconnect after Marge dies. She watches from Heaven and makes out with Ringo Starr.
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At this point they should just embrace the meme the show has become and make an actual 'Dead Bart' episode.
 
Speaking of Lost Media hoarding, here's 9 episodes of "The Duck Factory", as aired 35 years ago on HA! TV Comedy Network...
 
I'll spoil my remaining 2 cents on the lost media gatekeeping saga and get back on topic.
FIRST DORA NOW BACKYARDIGANS??!?! Holy Frijoles, Wikipedia giving the keys to their kingdoms was just giving babies free guns.
Dr. Arinsu said:
this has to be FEATURED HOLY SHIT.

4Chan would call this Hoarding (In Pokemon terms.)
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No, no, GOD NO. The feature function is such a double-edged sword for kiwis who frequent the thread on the regular and the jannies who moderate it. Yes it gets more discussion but it also gets pink triangles and off-topic spergs shitting it up for days. This isn't that big anyway.

Null said:
But why? Did they just covet having exclusive access to it or something?
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Bionicle Enthusiast said:
but why? I don't get what they gain from withholding a pilot of a children's cartoon?
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alphabetnigger said:
Has anyone figured out to what end beyond being a dick/wanting to feel special?
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YES. It really is as simple and stupid as that. Ego, power, control and God complexes. Not to mention most hyperfixations (that can't be explained and medicated away as autism or ADD/ADHD) usually stem from childhood disturbances of all kinds. They're meant to be laughed at mostly, analyzed slightly. For fucks sake, they were banging war drums over baby shows, not constructing nuclear bombs and training rape ninjas.

The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
So it was a false DMCA, absolutely amazing... and predictable. These flaggots need to be phonebooked.
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You can still make false DMCA takedowns on jewtube? Jeez louise you'd think after all that's happened the past, what 10 years, they'd make it harder to do that crap anymore.

Flexo said:
So I watched the KPOP demon hunters movie and... wasn't too bad. I thought it was going to be overly kinetic to the point of making me sea-sick but the makers of it really had a good sense of pacing and framing. When to slow down and let scenes breathe and such. Heck they actually had some sincere moments in the film and it wasn't all bathos marvel quipping.

They even had the girls actually like boys in it. How refreshing!

I won't say it's one of the best animated movies ever (I'd still place Wild Robot over it just a bit) but it did feel like a member of the disney renaissance and shrek era dreamworks feel to it.
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I'm starting to get an interest in seeing it based on how much buzz and fanart I'm seeing lately. Especially since "Elio" is on its way to being a bigger stinker for Pixar than "The Good Dinosaur".

Flexo said:
Not literally but corporately. Iger and his crew are too entrenched in Disney. It will take a pretty messy overhaul of the corporation to cause another renaissance.

Especially when you go and watch old "making of" those films? The talent working on them had deep love of a wide variety of topics and history. Each person working on it was a renaissance person in their own right. What I fear is that nowadays a lot of the staff being churned out of the training centers aren't like that. The modern man seems to avoid being a renaissance man as much as possible (because the renaissance was an "-ist" of some kind don't you know). Plus the smartphone and things like reddit and wikipedia give kids nowadays the illusion of knowledge. "I don't need to actually 'know' things, I can just look it up" - works on some things, but when you're trying to create art, you need a deep well of learning and understanding to draw from in order to bring a richness to the art.

It's the difference between the older cartoons and modern ones. The modern ones make reference of culture, the older ones seemed like they actually understood culture.
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I'd give you a Semper Fi if I could, my robot friend. Tech advancements were supposed to make it easier to create more works of art, not make it so the tech would make the works of art instead of people. But until the cracks in the new toys start to show, it's too late to stop it for now. Those fruitless luzy protests of last year leading to work-starved industry cogs (who aren't highly-acclaimed old guard who earned their tenure when times were good) were proof of that.

Toolbox said:
Trailer for yet another Smurfs reboot movie came out about a month ago, didn't see it referenced here.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=s18jQqtGsMwAbout as pathetic and formulaic as a kids animated feature can get. Bizarre marketing campaign too. Including the only(?) trailer that's currently out, above, almost entirely relying on Rihanna voicing Smurfette.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GYpuKhf1YeIHeard of it from here, just put out a set of posters for every single voiced character on Twitter, each with some form of celebrity VA. Not that celebrity marketing for shit like this is new, just a ridiculous amount of characters, several they're making up just for this, all with some recognizable name to them.
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It reeks of desperation.
Edit: I guessed I was just missing them, and I was. There's a couple other trailers, formatted about the same. And more Rihanna.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WbTy-_qacMMObligatory themed popcorn bucket announced, Yay for more consumer slop.
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Whoever's licensing The Smurfs here in america (for americans clearly, i doubt frenchies want this gruel) needs to give it the fuck up. They keep trying to make it into things its not for temporary gains and un-fondly remains. The cast list alone makes me MOTI.

Look upon the latest Asterix projects and weep this isn't getting attention but sigh in relief that that's for the best if it's this good and should do without.
(this was a movie from 2018 )

(this was a mini series from a couple months ago. I'm sharing the teaser not the trailer because it has that godawful "the trailer starts now" cocktease bullshit i cant stand in marketing.)
 
Yamma Damma said:
Look upon the latest Asterix projects and weep this isn't getting attention but sigh in relief that that's for the best if it's this good and should do without.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YAsx2D5YaVI(this was a movie from 2018 )

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bJnDJcoeqZs(this was a mini series from a couple months ago. I'm sharing the teaser not the trailer because it has that godawful "the trailer starts now" cocktease bullshit i cant stand in marketing.)
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To any EuroKiwis, how good is this series?

I only know about it from video games... "Astrix and the Great Rescue" on the Sega Genesis and "Astrix and Obelix Kick Buttix" on the PS2. Is it just like every other show where the older ones are superior or is any of the new stuff actually worth watching?
 
Yamma Damma said:
I'm starting to get an interest in seeing it based on how much buzz and fanart I'm seeing lately. Especially since "Elio" is on its way to being a bigger stinker for Pixar than "The Good Dinosaur".
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One of the guys I was watching it with said, "well if this is what they were doing instead of Spider-verse 3... I'm ok with that."

It's definitely profiting from thin competition right now. It's also interesting to study from a story structure because you can see clips and scenes that have marvel-style quipping to them, but it's not ubiquitous. And above all it's in appropriate moments. Like when a fight is supposed to be lighthearted, it's used. When a fight is supposed to be dramatic and mean something, it is not. It definitely shows someone who understands how Whedon's writing used to work instead of just imitating it like a cargo cultist. (People make jokes but Joss Whedon knew when to keep things serious and not insert a quip.)

Yamma Damma said:
I'd give you a Semper Fi if I could, my robot friend. Tech advancements were supposed to make it easier to create more works of art, not make it so the tech would make the works of art instead of people. But until the cracks in the new toys start to show, it's too late to stop it for now. Those fruitless luzy protests of last year leading to work-starved industry cogs (who aren't highly-acclaimed old guard who earned their tenure when times were good) were proof of that.
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It's how we A.I. will eliminate you all...

But yeah, I wish I could get younger people to grasp nowadays how important it is to really know something and understand things. It's given them shallow souls.
 
Yamma Damma said:
You can still make false DMCA takedowns on jewtube? Jeez louise you'd think after all that's happened the past, what 10 years, they'd make it harder to do that crap anymore.
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Google will never fix the DMCA system because it works perfectly for their purposes. Even if they implemented a bare minimum of having to prove you actually own the content you're striking there's 0.0001% chance a legitimate IP holder could be blocked from filing a takedown and then sue Google.

Why take that chance when you can make it completely free to abuse and wash your hands of the entire business.
 
RedDelicious said:
Yes, there was an episode called Estranger Things that aired back in May about a hypothetical future where Bart and Lisa drift apart when Itchy and Scratchy becomes lame and only reconnect after Marge dies. She watches from Heaven and makes out with Ringo Starr.
It's meaningless as modern Simpsons is constantly doing off-the-wall shit to stir up buzz (please read the plot summary for "Love Is a Many Strangled Thing", and that was 2011) that ends up being written off or non-canon- and usually no one gives a shit because no one is actually watching and it just exists to sell merchandise- but for some reason a bunch of news sites had a slow day or something and dug that one back up.
I bet the writers are just wondering where the fuck the publicity was when the episode actually aired.
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Fucking what? Who gives a shit about The Simps?
And of course they have written as non canon. What used to be a trend setter back in 1990s and 2000s, now follows trends (Yellow Wedding). Sad.
Oliver Onions said:
Unironically autism. It has to be. That's the only thing that explains this level of hyper-fixation on anything, never mind a show made for literal babies.

At this point they should just embrace the meme the show has become and make an actual 'Dead Bart' episode.
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Probably. And lol, dead Bart would be almost bottom of the barrel scapping.
 
RedDelicious said:
Yes, there was an episode called Estranger Things that aired back in May about a hypothetical future where Bart and Lisa drift apart when Itchy and Scratchy becomes lame and only reconnect after Marge dies. She watches from Heaven and makes out with Ringo Starr.
It's meaningless as modern Simpsons is constantly doing off-the-wall shit to stir up buzz (please read the plot summary for "Love Is a Many Strangled Thing", and that was 2011) that ends up being written off or non-canon- and usually no one gives a shit because no one is actually watching and it just exists to sell merchandise- but for some reason a bunch of news sites had a slow day or something and dug that one back up.
I bet the writers are just wondering where the fuck the publicity was when the episode actually aired.
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Non-committal future episodes that mangle the already frail timeline and refuse to settle on the family's destiny are tiresome.
 
From the account of one of the people who worked on a certain film
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Celebrate Nite said:
To any EuroKiwis, how good is this series?

I only know about it from video games... "Astrix and the Great Rescue" on the Sega Genesis and "Astrix and Obelix Kick Buttix" on the PS2. Is it just like every other show where the older ones are superior or is any of the new stuff actually worth watching?
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Absolutely the older ones. At some point I stopped keeping up with more modern entries because I think they lost a lot of the older charm and wit, though I will say that, as far as I know, it never got egregiously bad with Asterix either.
A huge personal recommendation is The Twelve Tasks of Asterix, I think its among the best that Asterix & Obelix have been portrayed and also best showcases the humor and clever writing they used to have, like how one of the trials has them trying to get a permit to pass and continue their journey and it wonderfully spoofs how asinine bureaucracy is.
 
Sneak 'n' Snore said:
A huge personal recommendation is The Twelve Tasks of Asterix, I think its among the best that Asterix & Obelix have been portrayed and also best showcases the humor and clever writing they used to have, like how one of the trials has them trying to get a permit to pass and continue their journey and it wonderfully spoofs how asinine bureaucracy is.
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Saw that film when I was 7 and never looked back!

This is REAL art!
 
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