🐱 ‘We’re No. 28! And Dropping!’

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This should be a wake-up call: New data suggest that the United States is one of just a few countries worldwide that is slipping backward.

The newest Social Progress Index, shared with me before its official release Thursday morning, finds that out of 163 countries assessed worldwide, the United States, Brazil and Hungary are the only ones in which people are worse off than when the index began in 2011. And the declines in Brazil and Hungary were smaller than America’s.

“The data paint an alarming picture of the state of our nation, and we hope it will be a call to action,” Michael Porter, a Harvard Business School professor and the chair of the advisory panel for the Social Progress Index, told me. “It’s like we’re a developing country.”


The index, inspired by research of Nobel-winning economists, collects 50 metrics of well-being — nutrition, safety, freedom, the environment, health, education and more — to measure quality of life. Norway comes out on top in the 2020 edition, followed by Denmark, Finland and New Zealand. South Sudan is at the bottom, with Chad, Central African Republic and Eritrea just behind.

The United States, despite its immense wealth, military power and cultural influence, ranks 28th — having slipped from 19th in 2011. The index now puts the United States behind significantly poorer countries, including Estonia, Czech Republic, Cyprus and Greece.
“We are no longer the country we like to think we are,” said Porter.
The United States ranks No. 1 in the world in quality of universities, but No. 91 in access to quality basic education. The U.S. leads the world in medical technology, yet we are No. 97 in access to quality health care.

The Social Progress Index finds that Americans have health statistics similar to those of people in Chile, Jordan and Albania, while kids in the United States get an education roughly on par with what children get in Uzbekistan and Mongolia. A majority of countries have lower homicide rates, and most other advanced countries have lower traffic fatality rates and better sanitation and internet access.


The United States has high levels of early marriage — most states still allow child marriage in some circumstances — and lags in sharing political power equally among all citizens. America ranks a shameful No. 100 in discrimination against minorities.
The data for the latest index predates Covid-19, which has had a disproportionate impact on the United States and seems likely to exacerbate the slide in America’s standing. One new study suggests that in the United States, symptoms of depression have risen threefold since the pandemic began — and poor mental health is associated with other risk factors for well-being.
Michael Green, the C.E.O. of the group that puts out the Social Progress Index, notes that the coronavirus will affect health, longevity and education, with the impact particularly large in both the United States and Brazil. The equity and inclusiveness measured by the index seem to help protect societies from the virus, he said.
“Societies that are inclusive, tolerant and better educated are better able to manage the pandemic,” Green said.
The decline of the United States over the last decade in this index — more than any country in the world — is a reminder that we Americans face structural problems that predate President Trump and that festered under leaders of both parties. Trump is a symptom of this larger malaise, and also a cause of its acceleration.
David G. Blanchflower, a Dartmouth economist, has new research showing that the share of Americans reporting in effect that every day is a bad mental health day has doubled over 25 years. “Rising distress and despair are largely American phenomenon not observed in other advanced countries,” Blanchflower told me.
This decline is deeply personal for me: As I’ve written, a quarter of the kids on my old No. 6 school bus in rural Oregon are now dead from drugs, alcohol and suicide — what are called “deaths of despair.” I lost one friend to a heroin overdose this spring and have had more friends incarcerated than I could possibly count; the problems are now self-replicating in the next generation because of the dysfunction in some homes.
You as taxpayers paid huge sums to imprison my old friends; the money would have been far better invested educating them, honing their job skills or treating their addictions.

That’s why this is an election like that of 1932. That was the year American voters decisively rejected Herbert Hoover’s passivity and gave Franklin Roosevelt an electoral mandate — including a flipped Senate — that laid the groundwork for the New Deal and the modern middle class. But first we need to acknowledge the reality that we are on the wrong track.

We Americans like to say “We’re No. 1.” But the new data suggest that we should be chanting, “We’re No. 28! And dropping!”
Let’s wake up, for we are no longer the country we think we are.
 
"The data paint an alarming picture of the state of our nation, and we hope it will be a call to action,” Michael Porter, a Harvard Business School professor and the chair of the advisory panel for the Social Progress Index, told me. “It’s like we’re a developing country.”

I.e. Import the third world, become the third world.

Prof. Porter should cool it with the racism before he gets fired.
 
Aa an outsider observer, this definitely seems true, like isn't there an opioid crisis, people in insane amounts of debt, for like education and health sevices, and the public infrastructure is falling down? Its not like its a poll about what is the best nation on earth, its just a bunch of metrics about how well people are doing.
Fare enough if you don't live in the US but as a person that lives here it's all crap i haven't met someone that went to college and cant get a job anywhere, unless you live in a major city where it's bound to be a competitive job market and as Public education goes it's one area where it's hit or miss you either go to a school that's good or a school that local government has let go to shit for no reason other than laziness
 
Aa an outsider observer, this definitly seems true, like isnt there an opiod crisis, people in insane amounts of debt, for like education and health sevices, and the public infrastructure is falling down? Its not like its a poll about what is the best nation on earth, its just a bunch of metrics about how well people are doing.

Depends on where you live, tbh.

You have to remember that the US is about the size of Europe and the quality of life between states (and even counties within states) is immense. If you wanted to do anything like this accurately, you'd list each individual state and you'd see a number of places in the US that are better to live in than the vast majority of European nations. You'd also have a bunch of states on the level of places like the Czech Republic and Hungary. Then you'd have places probably similar to Slovakia.

And then within states, wealth and prosperity is often divided. You can look at Connecticut and New Jersey as examples of that. Fairfield county in CT has almost 1 million residents and is one of the wealthiest places in the wealthiest nation in the history of the planet. Fairfield county is also home to Bridgeport, which has been considered one of the top 20 worst places to live in the US numerous times, even though there have been all kinds of efforts made to clean it up over the past decade. New Jersey has all kinds of extremely wealthy counties, but it's also home to Camden.

The wealthy counties? People have better access to health care, education, and everything you could imagine compared to any European nation. The poor ones? Fucking shit tier.

You can't really measure the US by any of these sorts of metrics because of how large it is and how different the regions are. Don't Europeans get mad when you call them "European" instead of by their birth nation? The same applies to those who qualify as latino. No, they're from a latino nation firstly. While people will generally call themselves American, trying to group everyone together in a country this large and diverse is illogical and sort of the same thing.

As for the debt shit? Well, you saw what it said about quality. When it comes to public education, it 100% depends where you live. Inner city schools are trash and they drag down the education statistics. Live in a nice area or get sent to a private school? Leagues ahead of anything provided in "better" countries. The US is home to like 80% of the best 100 universities in the world. Those universities are mostly populated by Americans. But we're still stupid, right? The US is the most productive country in the world and accounts for approximately 2/3 of all scientific, medical, and technological advances, but we're still lazy, right? Sure, a lot of this stuff could use reform to prevent predatory practices, but regulation is also the enemy of progress. But at the end of the day, people come here to get things done and if they feel they have something to offer the world. They don't go to Norway or Estonia. They go to the United States.

Independence, liberty, and a feeling of "if they can do it, so can I, and I don't need the fucking government's help".

This shit's propaganda.
Is the United States of America a perfect country? Absolutely not.
Would I want to live anywhere else? Absolutely not.
 
This shit's propaganda.
Is the United States of America a perfect country? Absolutely not.
Would I want to live anywhere else? Absolutely not.
It's simple, how many of the people who claimed they would move to Canada if Trump won actually followed through? How many people put their money where their mouth is and leave?
 
It's simple, how many of the people who claimed they would move to Canada if Trump won actually followed through? How many people put their money where their mouth is and leave?

Canada's population is approximately 1/8th that of the United States.
Contrary to popular belief, it is more difficult to move to the United States than it is to move to Canada (the biggest difference is for Canada, you only need a degree in a "good field", for the US, you need actual employment).

Twice as many Canadians move to the United States each year compared to the reverse. People are trying to leave Canada to a "worse" country.

90% of Non-Americans (particularly Europeans) I've talked to believes the propaganda that people want to leave the US for Canada when the reverse is true.

Edited to fix a flub about which country is easier to move to.
 
From a foreigner's perspective, the way I've always viewed the US is that it's a fairly dog eat dog society, but its competitive, individualist nature allows it to constantly produce innovations on a scale never before seen.
 
Lmao, the United States is basically a failed state at this point. Anyone can see it, it's not just "postmodernist social scientists" (I swear no one understands what that term means). It didn't have to be this way. This is what you get when you let corporations run a train on your infrastructure, healthcare, education, and unions. But sure, keep voting Republican. I'm sure they'll fix it.
 
The sun came up in the east, the coffee girl smiled as she gave me my Americano, some Harvard think tank speds shit on America.....yep, just another day ending in y.
 
No. 100 in discrimination against minorities.
They have Japan as 15, the almost ethnically homogeneous country with actual systemic discrimination against Koreans is apparently among the most tolerant of minorities.

Also who the fuck made these rating with a straight face.
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57 in property rights for women, 1 in online governance, 100 in discrimination against minorities (same as South Africa), 45 in media censorship, 32 in freedom of religion, 22 in corruption (we score well here somehow).
 
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So the US is going down while it gets more brown. sounds about right...

The US is just Superior to the rest of the western world in 3 Things... free speech, right to defend and right to a Jury trial.
so beeing 28 in a study that doesnt cares about this because its made by marxists isnt bad.
 
Well if you think the study is wrong just name another successful country where local governments are seriously discussing abolishing their entire police force because rioting mobs are demanding it.
 
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