UK Welsh language declared racist - It's horrible, but racist? Come on...

Art council’s use of Welsh language ‘excludes ethnic minorities’, body’s own repor

Leading cultural institutions demonstrating racism in ‘calculated and repetitive’ fashion, report says

www.independent.co.uk

Two leading cultural bodies in Wales are structurally racist and their Welsh language requirements risk excluding minorities, a report commissioned by the organisations themselves has concluded.

The Arts Council of Wales and Amgueddfa Cymru - the National Museum Wales - commissioned research looking into their inclusion efforts.

The Arts Anti-Racist Union, which carried out some of the research, said that neither body had done enough to engage with people from black and ethnic minority backgrounds.

“Black and non-black people of colour are not more present” because of a “concerted structural effort - one that is very much present in the attitudes and behaviours of those in power”, the report said.

It also said the organisations excluded black and minority people not through “willful ignorance”, but as part of a “calculated and repetitive pattern”.

“Some black artists noted that they were only given commissions during Black History Month, despite having applied to work with the Arts Council of Wales and Amgueddfa Cymru - National Museum Wales (ACW and NMW-AC) on numerous occasions throughout the year,” the report added.

Meanwhile, the report said current Welsh language policies in the organisations’ applications processes “can exclude Black and non-Black people of colour”, recommending that marginalised artists and art workers should receive support to learn different languages in addition to Welsh .

It added that a group of people from ethnic minorities consulted on their experiences of the art sector in Wales had called for the organisations to “relax the emphasis” on requirements for staff having to speak Welsh.

Those who were consulted also urged the organisations to offer “job sharing in roles that may require Welsh language proficiency.”

The Arts Council of Wales currently requires the Welsh language skills of staff to be tested annually through a self-assessment.

In a joint statement, Arts Council of Wales and Amgueddfa Cymru, which have also commissioned research into their engagement with poorer communities and those living with disabilities, said they "welcomed the findings" and would take steps to address the concerns outlined in the report.

"The approaches taken by all three organisations focused on collaborating with communities rather than extrapolating from communities, and provide a range of important findings and recommendations," the statement added.

"Arts Council of Wales and Amgueddfa Cymru will publish a joint action plan with a timeframe for taking forward the recommendations in the autumn."
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Oh no! Native languages can be considered racist now guys! Especially if they're already dying minority languages!

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

At what point do you think the many native groups of Europe will realize there is a war on there Race, culture, history, and there future, That there ruling class absolutely hates them and wants nothing more then there destruction, Will any of them wake up and do something?

*their. And they won’t because there isn’t a collective racial identity. Europe sucks anyways. Their importance on the world stage ended in 1945.

Yet again, you being autistic and not understanding nuance. Where did I say "culture is bad"? I said making your entire identity brainless worship of a past that never existed, and then letting it control your politics, is psychotic. But thanks for admitting your "culture" is a construction that you use to justify your own personal prejudices and hang ups rather then a thing in and of itself.

Nationalism is for people afraid of themselves.

I want America to be it’s best self. I don’t care what skin color someone is or what religion they belong to so long as they contribute and follow the law. Part of participating in American society is speaking the language. IMO this is true for other cultures too. If you live in wales, you should learn welsh.

American culture can be a unifier, it would be better if it was. Without a unifier that is how you get civil war and genocide like what occurred in much of Eastern Europe, which is far worse than many realize. America was better pre-war on terror back when everyone cared about a terrorist attack in NYC. Unified we’re stronger.

The past is something to learn from, not romanticize or demonize. Imo the US needs a national identity because we’d Balkanize and murder each other in such a scale that the civil war would look like small potatoes. Anything that encourages Balkanization, whether it’s white supremacy or critical race theory, should be utterly crushed. The problem is that collectively many Americans agree the former is an issue but ignore the latter, while the latter has more cultural clout and is practically the official religion of the Democratic Party.

What works in Europe doesn’t necessarily work here or vice versa. The US has a long history of immigration and we integrate people better, usually within three generations. Europe in contrast does not. Likewise, a lot of European policies couldn’t work here because we don’t have the political culture for it. A strong national identity in Europe isn’t necessarily ideal considering how it could fracture a lot of their nation states, here in the US I’d argue patriotism/nationalism is a unifier, and a net positive.

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Only in the modern day that anyone would unironically think it's bad to preserve very basic cultural things like language. Throughout history, the only time people say this is when they're trying to exterminate a rival culture and take their land. Most people aren't extremists when it comes to culture appreciation or even "nationalism."

They just don't want someone else's culture to replace their own.

 

[Male Idiot]

Lol faggots.

I am totally fine with every part of Hungarian history expect the military losses.*

Every culture kills. Nature kills. It is only natural that criminals are torn apart by horses and put on pikes. This is what happens in nature, and what reality is.

Niggers were enslaved because they were weak and dumb. Would still be if not for simpy whiteys. Chingchong will put back the leash on Africa, because he can.

Nationalism is simply the human animal's way of preserving the genetic makeup of its local population.

And if Taliban's durka durka antics work in the east, than they are justified. And if they overcome the Americans and make them become muslim fundies as well, that is because they were weak.

Not right or wrong or evil or good, simply strong and weak. Evolution applies to cultures as well. Tradition and change is simply sounds we use to refer to the works of evolution.

Cultures can maintain useful traits, and become stronger or weaker if they change. The leftist retards' myth of progress isn't a constant upgrade like in a video game. Just ask the dodo culture.

* For example, for a Romanian, some of those looses are good, it means they won. But some are bad because we both got our asses kicked. Burning the witch was bad for the witch, but good for the witchfinder. Traditions that are a disadvantage seldom get selected for.

Also, the US culture will become mexican or nigger culture soon too. Ching-chong knows this, it only has to wait a few more commie generations.
Now we can argue whenever it was (((them))) or an inherent flaw in the western system, but either way the system was too vulnerable to subversion or niggers. This is just the fact that the environment changed, and the west isn't adapting well to it. If an animal is weak, or if it is weak because it is an easy target for parasites, doesn't really matter, it will end up dodo. Or like the Afgan goverment.

Let us for example take a look at one of the liberal's usual target, Salem.

Of at least 500 people, only 20 executed. So not really worse than what a band of unhappy injuns or a house fire could have done. Sure it was silly, but it did not really put a big dent in the population. It was a 4% decrease, not unusual at those times. But had even Salem dissapeared, the US would have kept on going.

In fact, if you look at it, its not too different from dangerous but dumb shit people do now to be entertained. People get beared when hiking a lot, car races can have fatal crashes, the end result is the same.

So this great traditional fault turns out to be something very minor, propably way better than an outbreak of cholera.

Same is true for the Sharia law's love of stoning faggots. Faggots are few and far between, and stoning them really doesn't do much.

The only weakness one can think of with it is that it is not really Curie friendly, so Abdul may have needed a few extra decades to find out that licking uranium is bad, if we agree that biologically they are the same as whites.

Though if you replace "bad genetics" with "oppressed by evil whitey!" , it sometimes doesn't work when whitey isn't around to magically keep Unga-Booga dumb.

 

[Coleslaw]

(many who speak two languages already)

Spanish, and?

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Spanish, and?

Depends. City people know some basic English, but actual indigenous people speak Spanish plus their own native language. Paraguayans are bilingual at 90% iicr.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Welsh Phrasebook (excerpt)

English: "Where is the library?"

Welsh: "Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn?"

 

[NyQuilninja]

Hil-laddiad gwyn

 

[BlerdBjern]

Yeah that's a pretty shit analysis OP. They aren't saying the language is racist, they're saying requirements to speak it in government funded cultural projects basically means everybody who doesn't never gets a job. Which is just objectively true, whether you think it's "worth it" or not

Yeah knowm the government is within it's rights to want people to speak the native language

 

[Overly Serious]

Okay edgelord

The English invade Wales, put it under their rule.
They try to stamp out the Welsh language in schools and communities.
They make speaking Welsh illegal in court (at a time when most people there spoke only Welsh)
Late as the 1700s you got fired from your job if overheard speaking Welsh.
Right into the 1940s, a child at school overhead speaking Welsh would have a wooden "WN" plaque strung around their neck (short for "Welsh Not") and be caned by the headmaster at the end of the day.

With the law, removal of the ability to work and beating children all in place to eliminate the Welsh language, its usage dropped dramatically. Now, the Welsh Cultural department, still trying to protect it from being made into a dead language, are told they are racist for trying to do so and the law is again used to try and eliminate the language.

Plus ça change... (that's French, a nation that isn't ashamed to protect its language and so will be around for a long time).

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Does this mean the Prince of Wales is also a racist?

 

[bluegenius8585]

Am I weird in that I actually like Welsh and am learning it?

I know it's called Welsh but its ancestor languages were spoken over much of the Northern 1/2 of England and into southern Scotland?

Does this mean the Prince of Wales is also a racist?

Only against people without bat ears

 

[Overly Serious]

Welsh Phrasebook (excerpt)

English: "Where is the library?"

Welsh: "Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn?"

You are (maybe) joking, but there's a an old Cthulhu mythos story 'The Return of the Lloigor' by Colin Wilson - one of those post-Lovecraft but "cannon" novellas which is set in Wales and is hilariously racist. Enough so to make old HPL smile. It's years since I read it but I recall it referring to the degenerate, in-bred Welsh and suggested they had tainted bloodlines and worshipped the Great Old Ones (specifically the psychic monstrosities the Lloigor). I may have to dig it out. Colin Wilson was, to the surprise of nobody, English.

Does this mean the Prince of Wales is also a racist?

No, him being a Royal and a Duke means he is racist.

Am I weird in that I actually like Welsh and am learning it?

I know it's called Welsh but its ancestor languages were spoken over much of the Northern 1/2 of England and into southern Scotland?

This may interest you if you've haven't come across it. There's a Northern England independence movement. Northumbria was its own kingdom for quite a while. If they ever succeed it might be good for Welsh independence as well.

Unfortunately, Plaid Cymru who ostensibly don't want Wales to be ruled by the English, seem very keen for it to be ruled by Brussels. Probably because the Welsh got such massive handouts from the EU.

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

“Some black artists noted that they were only given commissions during Black History Month, despite having applied to work with the Arts Council of Wales and Amgueddfa Cymru - National Museum Wales (ACW and NMW-AC) on numerous occasions throughout the year,” the report added."

LOL, of course black people and other minorities are just props and toys for wokies to parade about how good they are.

Welsh is a very beautiful language with many wonderful songs including their anthem. It makes me very sad that they're willing to kill it off for the sake of muh inclusion and multiculturalism. Fellow Welsh, please keep your beautiful language and culture alive!

 

[CWCissey]

You are (maybe) joking, but there's a an old Cthulhu mythos story 'The Return of the Lloigor' by Colin Wilson - one of those post-Lovecraft but "cannon" novellas which is set in Wales and is hilariously racist. Enough so to make old HPL smile. It's years since I read it but I recall it referring to the degenerate, in-bred Welsh and suggested they had tainted bloodlines and worshipped the Great Old Ones (specifically the psychic monstrosities the Lloigor). I may have to dig it out. Colin Wilson was, to the surprise of nobody, English.



No, him being a Royal and a Duke means he is racist.


This may interest you if you've haven't come across it. There's a Northern England independence movement. Northumbria was its own kingdom for quite a while. If they ever succeed it might be good for Welsh independence as well.https://youtube.com/watch?v=pImpSk-7rks
Unfortunately, Plaid Cymru who ostensibly don't want Wales to be ruled by the English, seem very keen for it to be ruled by Brussels. Probably because the Welsh got such massive handouts from the EU.

Shame the NIPs are a bunch of fucking Commies.

 

[Otterly]

It's true. Dyn is man and du is black. Word order in Welsh is (simplifying) the reverse of English. If you have doubts:
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Hahahha. It’s pronounced more like ‘dee’ thoigh isn’t it? (My knowledge coming from my old local being the Mochyn du.)
This is really disturbing - I lived in Wales for years, and Welsh has gone from being almost extinct to really thriving due to a ground roots push. When I lived there there were loads of Welsh language primary schools, everything official is in English and Welsh and I think that’s great. Preserve your culture, hold into it. You could NOT criticise this - and yet now, one of these Marxist bodies is doing just that. It’s really insidious how they shape narratives like this.
They should perhaps remember what the Welsh do to invaders, song the lines of being peaceful but firey with holiday cottages. ‘A house is not a home, Niel.’

 

[knightlautrec]

Yeah that's a pretty shit analysis OP. They aren't saying the language is racist, they're saying requirements to speak it in government funded cultural projects basically means everybody who doesn't never gets a job. Which is just objectively true, whether you think it's "worth it" or not

If you don't like it don't live in Wales. Welsh has been a requirement for the past thirty years to learn for GCSE and A Levels. They start learning Welsh in Nursery here. And if you aren't Welsh and applying for these why are you applying for them?

Wales supports Welsh culture and language as it should. England could learn something. Wales suffered for centuries of culture repression and finally managed to integrate it back hence why they're so staunch about it now. It doesn't matter it's a so called dying language. It's the value of understanding your heritage. And hell, I'm not even Welsh. I just empathise with people who just want to live their goddamn lives in their own country without being dictated to.

And let's face it - the amount of non whites in Wales? Is like less than .002 percent. It is incredibly small demographic. Why the actual fuck should they cater to them? Go to school, learn Welsh like everyone else here and stop being retards.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Unfortunately, Plaid Cymru who ostensibly don't want Wales to be ruled by the English, seem very keen for it to be ruled by Brussels. Probably because the Welsh got such massive handouts from the EU.

I can't wait to see their surprising Pikachu faces if and when the EU can't give them handouts anymore.

 

[BayView]

Lol faggots.

I am totally fine with every part of Hungarian history expect the military losses.*

Every culture kills. Nature kills. It is only natural that criminals are torn apart by horses and put on pikes. This is what happens in nature, and what reality is.

Niggers were enslaved because they were weak and dumb. Would still be if not for simpy whiteys. Chingchong will put back the leash on Africa, because he can.

Nationalism is simply the human animal's way of preserving the genetic makeup of its local population.

And if Taliban's durka durka antics work in the east, than they are justified. And if they overcome the Americans and make them become muslim fundies as well, that is because they were weak.

Not right or wrong or evil or good, simply strong and weak. Evolution applies to cultures as well. Tradition and change is simply sounds we use to refer to the works of evolution.

Cultures can maintain useful traits, and become stronger or weaker if they change. The leftist retards' myth of progress isn't a constant upgrade like in a video game. Just ask the dodo culture.

* For example, for a Romanian, some of those looses are good, it means they won. But some are bad because we both got our asses kicked. Burning the witch was bad for the witch, but good for the witchfinder. Traditions that are a disadvantage seldom get selected for.

Also, the US culture will become mexican or nigger culture soon too. Ching-chong knows this, it only has to wait a few more commie generations.
Now we can argue whenever it was (((them))) or an inherent flaw in the western system, but either way the system was too vulnerable to subversion or niggers. This is just the fact that the environment changed, and the west isn't adapting well to it. If an animal is weak, or if it is weak because it is an easy target for parasites, doesn't really matter, it will end up dodo. Or like the Afgan goverment.

Let us for example take a look at one of the liberal's usual target, Salem.

Of at least 500 people, only 20 executed. So not really worse than what a band of unhappy injuns or a house fire could have done. Sure it was silly, but it did not really put a big dent in the population. It was a 4% decrease, not unusual at those times. But had even Salem dissapeared, the US would have kept on going.

In fact, if you look at it, its not too different from dangerous but dumb shit people do now to be entertained. People get beared when hiking a lot, car races can have fatal crashes, the end result is the same.

So this great traditional fault turns out to be something very minor, propably way better than an outbreak of cholera.

Same is true for the Sharia law's love of stoning faggots. Faggots are few and far between, and stoning them really doesn't do much.

The only weakness one can think of with it is that it is not really Curie friendly, so Abdul may have needed a few extra decades to find out that licking uranium is bad, if we agree that biologically they are the same as whites.

Though if you replace "bad genetics" with "oppressed by evil whitey!" , it sometimes doesn't work when whitey isn't around to magically keep Unga-Booga dumb.

nice reddit spacing

also fuck wales I hope they go extinct, easily the worst part of the UK bar none.

 

[CWCissey]

also fuck wales I hope they go extinct, easily the worst part of the UK bar none.

Northern Ireland?
Birmingham?
London?

I can't wait to see their surprising Pikachu faces if and when the EU can't give them handouts anymore.

Even better if they spaz out about it, get little Jimmy Krankee involved and it all ends with the English going full King Edward on the smouldering ruins.

 

[Overly Serious]

Hahahha. It’s pronounced more like ‘dee’ thoigh isn’t it? (My knowledge coming from my old local being the Mochyn du.)

Well it's not like there aren't different accents even within Wales. I think it's more of a "deu" pronounced very fast. English ears just drop anything into the nearest bucket. But my Welsh is bad, maybe I just couldn't pass up a good joke. Definitely how you write it, though. Also, if the pub is called "Mochyn du" they might be coming for that, next!

This is really disturbing - I lived in Wales for years, and Welsh has gone from being almost extinct to really thriving due to a ground roots push. When I lived there there were loads of Welsh language primary schools, everything official is in English and Welsh and I think that’s great. Preserve your culture, hold into it. You could NOT criticise this - and yet now, one of these Marxist bodies is doing just that. It’s really insidious how they shape narratives like this.
They should perhaps remember what the Welsh do to invaders, song the lines of being peaceful but firey with holiday cottages. ‘A house is not a home, Niel.’

I do recall a great bit of graffiti: "Come home to a real fire... buy a cottage in Wales".

But yes, it's sinister as fuck. Language is always the first thing they attack, whether that be English invaders in Wales or Ireland stomping out native language schools, or modern Marxists trying to convince us all that "he / her" has always referred to something called "gender" rather than "sex".