Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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Jerk Sausage said:
And that's my main issue with it as well, the circuit-training and superset aspect of it. I like focusing all of my effort on a single exercise, breaking for as long as I see fit, and continue that one exercise until I'm at or nearing exhaustion on it. It doesn't look impressive, the majority of my time is spent resting, and the work only takes 20-30 seconds per set.

Crossfit is more about consistent action, higher volume, moderate intensity, and mixing different exercises. Which again, if that works for you and the alternative is doing nothing and losing gains, is great.

If you've been doing it for years, what are you considering?
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Mainly looking to talk about fitness there, just not sure it's the right place. Personally I like the hard sets while pushing the weight I can do (more the less iterations required), but I feel like 25KG dumbbells has become some sort of a hard ceiling to break in regard to stuff like single arm dumbbell push press. I'm definitely not in my prime where I finished classes with steam coming out of my skin.

Also I never put much part in the food aspect, trying mainly to get protein by sticking to meat dishes rather than using powders and shakes.
 
Saint Cuthbert said:
Finally jumping on the creatine wagon, has anyone noticed any actual benefits in themselves?
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I use to put a teaspoon in my morning coffee before work (and before taking up weightlifting). Gave me more pep in general. Creatine is one of the steps your body takes to turn food into energy, so if you have metabolic issues you may notice a big difference. eg. my resting heart rate would jump 10 bpm, and a 40min jog would turn into a 35min jog for the same distance.

idk what it's like for people without metabolic problems; but it's very popular so I imagine we all get a boost of sorts.

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January People: I'm too new and unobservant to distinguish a Resolutioner from the average retard, but lately people have been tracking in a lot more salt and dirt. The fatties are obviously new but they've paid for instruction so their etiquette is fine. They're trying; so, I gotta be nice.

The only consistent bullshit I see is the fresh Boomers/GenX doing things like 50 1/3rds of a crunch at lighting speed and one new girl who seems to go out of her way to invade peoples' personal space or take up equipment time (w/o actually using the equipment) so she can then scold people for 'being pushy' or 'in her way'. She also keeps asking the attendants to bring out particular things from storage even though analogues of those things are already available for use. (Like a plastic pole for stretching shoulders, as opposed to the two wooden ones right next to her.)
 
Saint Cuthbert said:
Finally jumping on the creatine wagon, has anyone noticed any actual benefits in themselves?
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I feel less tired during and after workouts. I noticed a jump in strength and size, so it's great. I feel more sharp too but that may be placebo

Pro tip: the minimum effective dose is 3g, and unlike pre-workout, you can dry scoop it and be fine since it is a single compound. I find it easier to take too since there are no left overs as with the cups.
some claim that +20g show better effects in cognition, but I think that's: a) annoying (having to take 4 scoops of 5g a day? come on); b) too expensive for little "cognitive edge" it may have compared to just taking 3-5g.
 
Oh, there's also this kid (like legit, 15 at the oldest) 5'-nothing, weighing 100-and-nothing pounds. And he has been grabbing a 75lbs barbell for the past week and taking it over to this little cushion stand for preacher curls. As you may guess, he doesn't really lift the bar, he just lifts his whole body off the ground while trying to keep the bar suspended in mid-air.

It's adorable, not annoying, so I haven't said anything to him. But just to be sure: he can't actually hurt himself doing that right?
 
Creatine's great, just be aware that you need a loading dose before you start noticing the effects (like, 5g 3-4x/day for 2 days and then 2x/day afterwards) and that it does bloat you a little + make you more thirsty. It's absolutely worth it for the endurance boost you get though. Walmart's store brand is like 15$ for a big can that lasts two months 2x/day. Just avoid any weird 'formula' brands and get straight creatine; also get a wineglass/goblet to drink it with and you won't have to deal with residue.

Legalize Asbestos said:
But just to be sure: he can't actually hurt himself doing that right?
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Unfortunately yes. If you're just on the edge of what you can do and are struggling to get the bar up it's possible (and easy) to pull an oblique if you go slightly off balance and wind up pulling into the pad on one side. It's not a bad injury but it's irritating as fuck for a few weeks. One of the only times I've ever had a gym-related injury.
 
ducktales4gameboy said:
Unfortunately yes.
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Aight I'll say something next time I see him then.
>kid when you grab this bar, you don't look like you can lift 75lbs - you just look like you weigh 75lbs.
I'm getting buff enough now that he'll probably just take me at my word. It's pretty obvious that he just wants to go to school the next day and tell his friends his biceps can 'lift' that heavy without being a total liar.
 
Legalize Asbestos said:
Oh, there's also this kid (like legit, 15 at the oldest) 5'-nothing, weighing 100-and-nothing pounds. And he has been grabbing a 75lbs barbell for the past week and taking it over to this little cushion stand for preacher curls. As you may guess, he doesn't really lift the bar, he just lifts his whole body off the ground while trying to keep the bar suspended in mid-air.

It's adorable, not annoying, so I haven't said anything to him. But just to be sure: he can't actually hurt himself doing that right?
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Curling with everything BUT the actual ability of your biceps is guaranteed to give you elbow tendinitis.
 
24nagging said:
I feel less tired during and after workouts. I noticed a jump in strength and size, so it's great. I feel more sharp too but that may be placebo

Pro tip: the minimum effective dose is 3g, and unlike pre-workout, you can dry scoop it and be fine since it is a single compound. I find it easier to take too since there are no left overs as with the cups.
some claim that +20g show better effects in cognition, but I think that's: a) annoying (having to take 4 scoops of 5g a day? come on); b) too expensive for little "cognitive edge" it may have compared to just taking 3-5g.
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Any kiwis taking retard levels of creatine should let there doctor know if they’re getting any tests done as elevated levels of creatine in your system is a symptom of your liver being in serious trouble.

It’s the reason why some people are weird about creatine and think it damages your liver (although super retard doses may actually damage it.)
ducktales4gameboy said:
Creatine's great, just be aware that you need a loading dose before you start noticing the effects (like, 5g 3-4x/day for 2 days and then 2x/day afterwards) and that it does bloat you a little + make you more thirsty. It's absolutely worth it for the endurance boost you get though. Walmart's store brand is like 15$ for a big can that lasts two months 2x/day. Just avoid any weird 'formula' brands and get straight creatine; also get a wineglass/goblet to drink it with and you won't have to deal with residue.
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You don’t really need to load creatine. You’ll get the same effects taking a normal dose each day but loading just makes it kick in faster.

If any of you were elite athletes it would be worth loading, but as autists who like to lift heavy things were ok just starting on a normal daily dose.

I used to take 5g a day but don’t really feel much difference after dropping to 3g per day.
 
HowlingChasm said:
Curling with everything BUT the actual ability of your biceps is guaranteed to give you elbow tendinitis.
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Can confirm, was having this happen when I first started because I was dumb and didn't know better. Eventually stopped to let it recover, then started going way slower progression-wise. Now curling more than I was then with no elbow ouchies at all. Live and learn.

On that note, saw someone who will definitely be doing that to themselves just yesterday. Back hunched over like a motherfucker, using momentum to even lift the barbell, not getting even close to what I understand to be the full ROM. It was painful just to watch. To make matters worse he had a friend there watching and egging him on.
 
24nagging said:
Creatinine is the thing that damages your liver, not creatine
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But if a doctor does a test on you and finds high levels of creatine then there’s a chance you’re going on a dialysis if you don’t tell him (or her if you vote Democrat) about the retard level of supplements you’re taking.
 
FedPostalService said:
But if a doctor does a test on you and finds high levels of creatine then there’s a chance you’re going on a dialysis if you don’t tell him (or her if you vote Democrat) about the retard level of supplements you’re taking.
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You're thinking of the kidneys. And if your doctor is worried about them have them run a Cystatin C test which isn't effected by creatine.
 
mars said:
You're thinking of the kidneys. And if your doctor is worried about them have them run a Cystatin C test which isn't effected by creatine.
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Ah, I got the wrong organ. My autism has its limits.

That’s a great bit of extra info too.
 
i find creatines effects at higher dosages to be a bit more impactful, 20g does create a notable focus effect, id attribute it to being on a very benign amphetamine, but it doesnt "drive" you the same way something like adderall does if that makes any sense,
theres also some speculation about it increasing your capacity for systemic fatigue at higher dosages, which is to say how long before your brain is sick of sending huge signals to your back or your legs or whatever your muscle group of choice, i cant verify that, I never measured how long i could lift heavy off creatine vs on but if its true it would prove beneficial to power lifters and strongmen, we are already in full bloat mode
I still dont find it to be worth it so i take 8g spread over 2 doses
HowlingChasm said:
Curling with everything BUT the actual ability of your biceps is guaranteed to give you elbow tendinitis
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these are hard enough, i see broccoli bros who "curl" the EZ bar and turn it into a shoulder excercise way too often, but the biggest concern for lifters elbows are upright rows, especially free bar variants
i still do them though theyre fantastic
 
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