Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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KillaSmoke said:
Now that I've leaned out, its definitely showing which areas of development are lacking. That's a good thing, I know what I need to focus more on. All the muscles I have a hard time engaging, go figure. Glutes, chest, core. I mean, everything needs work, but the other shit was actually growing at a respectable rate on the last bulk.
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Chest is really a reality check whenever you lean out, unless you've really properly developed them they'll look like shit.
 
So, ended my weightlifting coaching yesterday. Several reasons really, but the overall commitment needed to seriously train for the sport just wasn't something I was willing to commit to at the age of 35. I was beginning to hate lifting in general, and my coach's unique approach wasn't helping.

Ending my weightlifting journey with a 101kg snatch, 146kg clean and jerk. Cleaned 150kg last month, so I have no regrets.

Back to general training/hybrid workouts. Already done two sessions, and I was so much fucking happier. Deadlifts today for the first time, really, in about 5 months.
 
Funny enough. I finally am back to going heavy and healthy... I'm almost 40 and killing it on chest. What gives? I've always been tree legs and bird chest and arm.. but for some reason my chest is doing great. my BP DBP etc all wonderful. (well for someone with a shity one).

I was training for my Rugby league, hold 50 lb bag in arms, do box jumps JFC. 18" 5x15 killed me.
 
Pentex said:
Sets of 20.
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Hard disagree.

1) If you can do 10x3 with X lbs, then you can do 20x3 with X*0.7 lbs, while the opposite may not be true.
2) If you're not going for 1RM each time you excercise, you are training your endurance.
3) Sets of 20 take more time and may cause you more joint harm.

So I don't think it's benefitial at all. If you find yourself gassing out despite being strong then you need cardio and 10x3/4 deadlifts, not more reps with stuff you already do.
BABANGUIDE64 said:
How to not give up on doing exercizes? I've been lifting weights for half of a year or so to become healthier, stronger and overcome depression but gave up flushing my progress
What's worse is that it was not the first time happened
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Having excercises with a trainer and then finding a gym girlfriend helped my wife in the same situation. Excercising alone when you don't want it sucks.
 
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Slight deviation from usual content.. . But does anyone here have Graeco-Roman/freestyle wrestling experience? There's a club in my city, thinking of getting involved. I'll still be lifting hard, but experimenting in the short term wouldn't hurt.
 
dick brain said:
Been trying this for two years.
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Keep lifting... you'll have a tom boy GF and everyone will be jealous.

or jokes aside stop being fucking /fit/... exercise is self improvement.... no one cares. Girls even. Mrs basso, has seen me get "fat" "old" etc... but I bounce back. I'm never going to stop lifting and being happy and healthier. I don't lift because of her... I lift because I like being better.

I wish you an adorable tom boy gf but because we can't be too nice. I hope she pegs you brutally faggot.

Stick to working out, and if someone comes up let it roll. ... if not keep improving yourself, life will just be better... better life gets girls.
 
So, I've been trying to incorporate fasted LISS for a while now. Mostly for health benefits, lipids, insulin sensitivity, that type of shit. Research is pretty solid that in fatties, it doesn't do anything to improve fat loss. That said, mechanistically, there's reason to think that once you're already fairly lean, it would potentially cause a bit more fat loss, and more favorable body composition. Its not 100℅, or anything, but as a potential fringe benefit to the health effects, sounds pretty nice, now that I'm starting to get into that range of body composition.

Anyways, I'd keep trying to incorporate it, but I'd have to kill myself to get my heartrate into suggested range. I figured I was just in worse shape than I thought, and eventually I'd get to a point it was sustainable.

Just realized that all the people who talk about fasted cardio are bodybuilders, who are like 60 lbs heavier than me, with way worse endurance, so for the same intensity level, their heart rates are going to be way fucking higher.

I come from a background in cycling, and train with power data. I know how dogshit of a metric heart rate is. I don't know why I didn't figure this out months ago. Now that I'm actually doing LISS instead of fucking sprints, I've done 45 min/day the past two days, with no real fatigue or stress. Pretty sure I could easily do it 5+ days/week

More explicitly on topic for the thread, now that I'm in the last 4 weeks of the cut, I'm planning out lifting for my bulk. Like I said, weak points are glutes/core/chest. Glutes and Core will translate more to cycling and general quality of life, so those are first priorities. Chest is more limited to benefits in lifting/aesthetics, so that's secondary. Everything else has enough volume that I should be able to keep progressing, but it's less of a priority.

Been building out a super autistic spreadsheet, for 20 weeks. I have full confidence that within like 6-8 weeks, I'm gonna have to change a bunch of shit, but I still like to have a roadmap, even with the understanding that as it goes further out, it becomes very tentative.

Honestly, its probably overambitious. Lot of volume. Lifting, cycling intervals, cardio, some bodyweight stuff at home... I've got it set up to gradually build up to full volume, so we'll see how it goes. I'm kind of going off of how easy everything has been during this diet, and assuming I'll be able to handle a lot more, once I'm in a surplus instead of a heavy deficit. I'm open to modifying it if I start having problems, so as long as I'm paying attention, its not gonna kill me.
 
Bassomatic said:
Keep lifting... you'll have a tom boy GF and everyone will be jealous.

or jokes aside stop being fucking /fit/... exercise is self improvement.... no one cares. Girls even. Mrs basso, has seen me get "fat" "old" etc... but I bounce back. I'm never going to stop lifting and being happy and healthier. I don't lift because of her... I lift because I like being better.

I wish you an adorable tom boy gf but because we can't be too nice. I hope she pegs you brutally faggot.

Stick to working out, and if someone comes up let it roll. ... if not keep improving yourself, life will just be better... better life gets girls.
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I was joking, you raging homosexual. I've been lifting for thirteen years or something, if I was doing it for pussy I would've quit by now.

Anyway I went mountain climbing and sliced my hand open pretty bad and couldn't lift for a month and my lifts dropped like 5%. Worth it for the experience but demoralizing. Trying not to get sucked into permabulking. Gonna start cutting again on Monday (not my hand).
 
In everyone’s experience here, what’s a reasonable goal for arm hypertrophy on like a year timescale? My current personal experience has been about an inch-ish a year, but want to see what others experience is before I try and set out my goals and workout plans for the rest of the year.

BABANGUIDE64 said:
How to not give up on doing exercizes? I've been lifting weights for half of a year or so to become healthier, stronger and overcome depression but gave up flushing my progress
What's worse is that it was not the first time happened
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In addition to what everyone else has said, which I echo, it’s a matter of developing discipline. In essence, just doing even when you feel like giving up. Which isn’t a very helpful answer I know, but it works.
Someone else mentioned the Buges, so I’ll echo what he says as well : “IT’S A MINDSET!”
 
Flavius Claudius Julianus said:
Slight deviation from usual content.. . But does anyone here have Graeco-Roman/freestyle wrestling experience? There's a club in my city, thinking of getting involved. I'll still be lifting hard, but experimenting in the short term wouldn't hurt.
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Just go to a gay bar. The results will be faster and more honest.
 
Any of you guys use weighted belts?

Figured I should get one since I'm banging out pullups, chin ups and pushups like a convict.

Hell... Should I just get a vest? Idk, recommend whatever works, I just need to progressively overload on the little bit of calisthenic shit I do
 
Rekeita's Kidneys said:
I mean, I've thought of getting a plate carrier to begin with lol
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I put together one of those up-and-over rapid deploy plate carrier backpacks with some steel core plates for urban camo and I've used it to ruck. Worth the money if you live in a shithole like me.

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dick brain said:
Gonna start cutting again on Monday (not my hand).
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Same. Happy with the progress I made this cycle but summer is the season of endless self-paced outdoor work and being busy as shit keeps my mind off food so I'm starting early. Good luck on dealing with the suckiest week.

Rimanah said:
In everyone’s experience here, what’s a reasonable goal for arm hypertrophy on like a year timescale? My current personal experience has been about an inch-ish a year, but want to see what others experience is before I try and set out my goals and workout plans for the rest of the year.
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Probably like .75" for me. Throwing that datapoint in because the only actual non-compound bicep exercise I was doing was low-weight preacher curls (shoulder injuries seriously fuck up so much; i hate them) everything else was heavy compounds.
 
Rekeita's Kidneys said:
Any of you guys use weighted belts?

Figured I should get one since I'm banging out pullups, chin ups and pushups like a convict.

Hell... Should I just get a vest? Idk, recommend whatever works, I just need to progressively overload on the little bit of calisthenic shit I do
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Dip belts are the standard for weighted pull ups/dips. Obviously you can't use it for push ups, you'd need a vest or backpack for that. If you're lean, weighted pull ups and dips will give you a god-tier physique.

I have an old school chain-style belt, where one end is permanently attached. If I were to do it again I'd probably get nylon belt with double carabiner style, like this "Advanced Dip Belt" from Iron Bull.
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