Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

[Sultan Bin Jewstar]

I wish we had a Liver King lolcow thread, I love that shit.

This...

Need to start influencing our fellow Kiwis to work out more so we create an audience for fitness lolcows.

is probably the vein you'd have to hit.
Fitness lolcows are profoundly uninteresting unless:

1. You're already able to intuit where the experience ends and bovine activities begin
2. They're so fuckin weird that you can't not watch them

not condoning this, but you could try to prod some of the people in that space into acting out; they love attention and are pretty stupid in terms of opsec.
Dave Palumbo's number is publicly gettable with zero effort and he is very online.

 

[JimmySneed]

I saw a fitness meme iceberg here somewhere and one of the entries said "bloatmaxxing to progressive overload calisthenics" and I laughed until it became my life.

This 100%. I have rubberbanded between 190 and 230 for the past few years. Can still run 22 min 5ks and do 25 pullups at 230.

 

[CrunkLord420]

Any of you guys have any experience with those foldable rowing/pulldown machines?

uhm hello saar may I interest you in a pull up bar and dip station parallettes? perhaps a pair of gymnastics rings?

 

[whatsupwthat]

not condoning this, but you could try to prod some of the people in that space into acting out; they love attention and are pretty stupid in terms of opsec.
Dave Palumbo's number is publicly gettable with zero effort and he is very online.

I can imagine that getting a phone number from someone in the fitness industry is as simple as; sign up for their coaching, try to get them on some messaging app that shows phone numbers (which they would probably agree to since these fuckers are so money hungry) and voila.

Occasionally you get an MD who can articulate some stuff and not be a cunt about it, but they're just making videos to prop up their $50k/yr annual subscription teledoc practice by doing their spin on the formula above.

The only person who escapes this formula is Lyle McDonald, the guy is a massive prick and egotistical, but he's right about almost everything he's a cunt about. He at least admits when he gets stuff wrong, which seems like nobody except him and Jeff Nippard can do.

 

[Sultan Bin Jewstar]

sign up for their coaching

It doesn't even have to be this involved.
They all think they can convince you they have the secret sauce to become monkey and (no sauce, but it's probably out there) pathology that makes them want to MOG by any means necessary including just having their number out there.

these fuckers are so money hungry

Gear ain't free and neither is living in a world of never-ending one upmanship. It's why they all drive stupid expensive cars they can't fit in.

The only person who escapes this formula is Lyle McDonald

Never heard of this guy, but I'm becoming more apprehensive of anyone who shills themselves online. I'm ignorant to whether he is that, though.
Social media + any ongoing science = scary shit when paired with the influencer flywheel industry.
"You make videos and get views. I'll bring on sponsors you only have to talk about under certain conditions and then you'll both have interest in your content because you're greedy self-serving twats!"


Back to the point of trying to lolcow a fitness weirdo:
The personalities are there, just gotta get them to stop being fitness-only retards.
Doucette and his adjacents are probably the greenest pasture.

 

[Rimanah]

Doucette and his adjacents are probably the greenest pasture.

It really surprises me Doucette hasn't had a bigger crash out yet, dudes the biggest attention whore in the world and is seemingly trying to start shit with every other person in the industry.

Though on the broader topic of LK and fitness lolcow threads, maybe a community watch thread makes more sense? There are plenty of minor cows in the industry who aren't deserving of a dedicated thread, plus all the lols that come from the drama of watching insecure manlets beef online (e.g. the aforementioned Doucette and his beef with Israetel).

 

[Sultan Bin Jewstar]

I dig it.

We have dick measuring contests between manlets and unironic clit measuring contests between steroid-laden women to document.

 

[Pentex]

also curious about repetitions. i am more interested in growing muscle endurance than hypertrophy, what number of repetitions should i be going for? five sets of ten?

Sets of 20.

when should i increase the resistance?

When 3-4 sets of 20 feel like girl weight.

Sadly seems like Kiwis aren't too interested in fitness influencers, there's a lot of retards and degenerates to make fun of in that entire sphere that I'm sure people would enjoy.

Game recognize game and a lot of these niggas lookin' real unfamiliar.
I tend to be more trusting of guys who clearly aren't juicers or openly admit to being juicers (C-Bum, Plates, Eugene Teo, Dr. Mike, Athlean, Bioneer, Squat U [The Bait King], Jeff Nipple, MountainDog [RIP]) because the juice is necessary if you want to break past the limits of your genetics.

 

[whatsupwthat]

Sets of 20.

When 3-4 sets of 20 feel like girl weight.

Game recognize game and a lot of these niggas lookin' real unfamiliar.
I tend to be more trusting of guys who clearly aren't juicers or openly admit to being juicers (C-Bum, Plates, Eugene Teo, Dr. Mike, Athlean, Bioneer, Squat U [The Bait King], Jeff Nipple, MountainDog [RIP]) because the juice is necessary if you want to break past the limits of your genetics.

A lot of the guys you mentioned have done lolcow behavior though so your game recognized game a bit poorly lol. Just being openly on gear doesn't mean much nowadays.

 

[FedPostalService]

Juicing is great if you want to get big fast and also beat your wife.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Well, I got Armbarred but we put on a good match. I was very threatening with my Judo game and almost had a Triangle that transitioned into a Cross Collar but he escaped with really good posture, I spun under for a Toehold and almost took his back with that attempt but he had a good grip on my pant leg so he used that to pass my guard. It was over after that, but I'm pleased with how I did. Made sixty bucks as well, lol.
A little birdie told me he's due for his purple in a week or so, but either way I did much better than I thought I would. By far my biggest weakness was my gas, all that adrenaline drains you quick. So, I'm adding burpees to the routine and will be focusing heavily on Toeholds and mounted attacks for a while.
I have another super fight in like three weeks, but this guy is at a lower level so we'll see what happens.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

You shouldn’t do endurance training. Instead, just take trucker speed and viagra before your match.

Game recognize game and a lot of these niggas lookin' real unfamiliar.

I think I got a list that works pretty well:

general fitness: Sean Nalewamyj / FitnessFAQs

jacking it to thumbnails: Squat HQ

Drama Queen shit: Coach Greg.

 

[dick brain]

At the gym, psyching myself up for a squat PR by watching the 28 Years Later trailer, screaming "Glutes! Glutes! Glutes! Glutes! Moving up and down again!"

 

[close]

At the gym, psyching myself up for a squat PR by watching the 28 Years Later trailer, screaming "Glutes! Glutes! Glutes! Glutes! Moving up and down again!"

I'm trying to post that image of the guy on /fit/ who met the jacked WarHammer nerd and it's just not working out for me. I have become too dumb.

 

[BABANGUIDE64]

How to not give up on doing exercizes? I've been lifting weights for half of a year or so to become healthier, stronger and overcome depression but gave up flushing my progress
What's worse is that it was not the first time happened

 

[whatsupwthat]

How to not give up on doing exercizes? I've been lifting weights for half of a year or so to become healthier, stronger and overcome depression but gave up flushing my progress
What's worse is that it was not the first time happened

What worked for me is to just objectively look at what a loser I'd be if I gave up on doing that one last rep, but I can also imagine being overly harsh on yourself might deter you from exercise even more. Honestly not sure how I could help you, but something that always worked to give me motivation was watching Eric Bugenhagen, the guy loves the gym and working out, and seeing him be so hyped about it makes me hyped as well.

 

[KillaSmoke]

How to not give up on doing exercizes? I've been lifting weights for half of a year or so to become healthier, stronger and overcome depression but gave up flushing my progress
What's worse is that it was not the first time happened

I'm probably just autistic, but I've found that once I've made a serious, detailed plan, either for diet or training, its actually way more mental work for me to deviate from that than it is to just do it exactly as planned for the next 3-6 months

I don't work off of discipline, my discipline is shit. Sometimes I feel pretty motivated, but that's always fleeting.

At the end of the day, if I've already made the decision, I've already done the hard work. I don't have to think about it anymore. If I want to deviate from the plan, that's stressful, I need to think, and make choices.

Also, I know people love to talk about how lifting cures depression, but that hasn't been my experience. I would say that if you do it with the expectation that its going to fix your depression, you'll probably still be depressed, and maybe even subjectively feel more depressed, because its "not working". I think its a healthier attitude to look at it as just a positive habit, something that helps give you some amount of future orientation, gets you out of the house, and takes time away from things you could be doing to actively feed into depression and make it worse.

 

[24nagging]

How to not give up on doing exercizes? I've been lifting weights for half of a year or so to become healthier, stronger and overcome depression but gave up flushing my progress
What's worse is that it was not the first time happened

You have to find out why you gave up.
In terms of lifting: Did you stop making progress on specific lifts? Did you do lifts you didn't like? Did you do lifts that hurt your joints?
In terms of nutrition: Are you fat? Are you skinny? How is your macros profile? How is the quality of the food you eat?
In terms of recovery: Do you sleep well? Do you sleep enough? Do you take any supplementation?

Maybe you are doing too much volume. Try to lower the number of sessions, sets and/or reps per body part and leave one rep in reserve when you do them (>4 sessions, >8 sets per body part per session, >15 reps per set). You don't have to do the big 5 lifts (Deadlift, Bench, Squat, OHP, Rows) to grow or become strong, maybe choose one or two of them and switch to machines and DBs for the rest of the body parts. Above all, write your program down, and choose exercises you actually like.

If you are skinny, maybe you are not eating enough. Try upping your calories and protein and fat intake. Try eating a variety of healthy foods. Same applies if you are fat, but lower your calories and fats, plus, start recording the foods you eat, with their calories and macros, your weight, and try to slowly lowering those numbers over time.

Get some good sleep! If you snore, sleep on your side. Try taking some melatonin (hormone that makes you sleepy) a couple of hours before you go to sleep if you have trouble falling asleep. Take creatine, even if you don't lift; it makes you feel less tired, and makes you concentrate better (it's literal magic). You could also take some multivitamin to have some bases covered (if you don't usually take in sunshine, and eat fruits and veggies, etc, it comes in handy)

Even with all of the above covered, if you have some type of actual depression, lifting won't solve it. It will help, but it won't solve it. You have to find out why you have depression. Get rid of the obvious vices (masturbation, smoking weed, taking drugs and/or alcohol, etc), go to a psychologist to get a proper diagnosis, and go to Church (you'll get a social circle of good quality people, and you will grow in virtue and God will help you).

 

[dick brain]

How to not give up on doing exercizes? I've been lifting weights for half of a year or so to become healthier, stronger and overcome depression but gave up flushing my progress
What's worse is that it was not the first time happened

Try having a shitty gay life with an unsolvable problem that makes you so furious that lifting and drinking are the only things that make you feel better. Then quit drinking.

 

[KillaSmoke]

Update from my end

About 8 weeks into the diet, little bit longer. I forget, was planning to start it May 1, but then I got food poisoning and decided to ride that momentum and kick it off early.

Starting weight was dancing around just under 84 kg. As of this morning, down to 72.8. Comfortably on track to hit sub 70 by my planned end date of August 1.

I have to have lost some muscle, but visually, it seriously doesn't look like it. The very first week of the diet, all of my lifts fell through the floor, something ridiculous like 40% drop cross the board. They've been progressing pretty steadily, and are now generally closer to 85% of where they started. I'm optimistic that with a week or two of maintenance calories, I'll have managed to eke out some progress.

Still feeling great. Don't really feel like I'm dieting most of the time. Generally seem to be recovering well, except for one or two weeks where I had rough sleep. After my workout today, I felt so good that I added an extra two movements, and had to remind myself it would be a bad idea to keep piling more shit on.

Since I'm 8 weeks in, and I've been losing weight so quickly, decided that for the last four weeks, I'd eat at maintenance on my lifting days, to try to help keep up recovery and muscle retention. Today that worked out to 3500 calories. Lot of food. Kind of getting worried how much I'll need to eat going into my bulk, especially since I'll be doing more structured bicycle training, on top of a lot more lifting volume.

Now that I've leaned out, its definitely showing which areas of development are lacking. That's a good thing, I know what I need to focus more on. All the muscles I have a hard time engaging, go figure. Glutes, chest, core. I mean, everything needs work, but the other shit was actually growing at a respectable rate on the last bulk. I've got veins protruding all over the place now. Fuckin garden hoses on my forearms, bulging out on my biceps, on my pubic mound, sometimes even my quads. Only downside is now my varicose veins look super gnarly. One of my calves looks like a tub of cottage cheese.

My girlfriend saw how well my diet was going, and asked me to help her. She's like three weeks in, and already down 8 kg. She's a big gal, so its easier to drop weight fast, and a lot of that is probably water, but still. It hasn't been easy on her, but she's super compliant, absolutely killing it, making me proud as shit. I've been getting her into the gym, too. First few weeks were just screwing around, seeing what movements worked well for her, learning how to move. Now I think she's about ready to start settling into a routine and working for real