Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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As previously stated I am a literal skeleton, so there's no concern about diet or counting calories. Generally I just try to not do insanely retarded shit like eating an entire cake in one day. Well, at least not regularly.

Still at 0.6g/lb that's about 300g of chicken a day. I guess I'll have to go around looking at the labels of everything else I eat to figure out how much protein I'm incidentally getting.

Eggs are delicious, but half the protein by weight of chicken, and like four times as much cholesterol, which doesn't sound good, but I guess I do also eat whole cakes so what more damage could I do? I might start eating iron nails again too, that was a fun time.

If you're a literal skeleton, you'll want to do a smart bulk (don't do dumb shit like gallon milk or anything like that). Just get some good protein powder, mix it with whole milk, and get half of your protein like that, then just eat whatever else you want as long as you get protein with each meal. It's pretty easy. I make 50gram protein shakes, it's just two scoops of powder.

You don't have to overthink it. At your level, any lifting and some protein will do the job. Once you get more advanced you'll have to dial shit in a bit more, but that's ways away for you if you're DL 1 plate. Keep up the good work you'll get there!
 
Anyone have recommendations for how to feel more confident with my squat? I do Crossfit 2-4x / wk (trying to get back up to consistently 3-4 days) and lift a bit on my own. I've been doing a lot more stretching, specifically around my hamstrings and hip flexors, because I've never been able to touch my toes in my entire life and want to see if I can. Yesterday when I was doing back squats @ 185 (nothing crazy, ~90% of my 1rm), I went all the way down faster than I was expecting, then struggled on my way back up. A friend suggested tempo squats at a lower weight, wondering if there's anything else I should do?
 
What's the actual issue? What do you believe you'll achieve with more "confidence"? If you're struggling then you're at a good weight/rep count. If it's easy you're not achieving anything. So long as you're safe and your form is good, keep at it. If your form isn't good, I agree with your friend - lower weight. Record your reps, look in the mirror.

What's your plan like? If you do a bunch of stretches before lifting, you'll harm your reps/weight because you're all loosey goosey.
 
So long as you're safe and your form is good, keep at it. If your form isn't good, I agree with your friend - lower weight. Record your reps, look in the mirror.

Form is the issue, I'm going down too quickly, and I think I'm not as in control of the dip as I should be. Thanks for the tips, my Crossfit gym doesn't have any mirrors.
 
Form is the issue, I'm going down too quickly, and I think I'm not as in control of the dip as I should be.
Then yeah, drop down a few kilos, film it (front and side), review between sets. Consider making note of where your toes and heels are too so you can put them in the same place each time. The main thing is the form though. Eyes forward, bar straight up and down as if it was in a smith machine. You wanna go down slowly enough that you're not bouncing at the bottom, and you're having to handle the weight the entire way. Don't just drop at full speed and then try to slow it down before you hit the floor - pick a max speed and stick to it.

I like to imagine I'm lowering some heavy furniture onto a glass floor, and if the floor breaks, I'll fall through down the side of the skyscraper. (Because I'm autistic).
 
I’ve increased my pre-work workout and now I need to nap for 30-45 minutes almost as soon as I get home after work.

Not going it lie, it’s pretty comfy. It’s like being a lazy Spaniard but with electricity.
 
Form is the issue, I'm going down too quickly, and I think I'm not as in control of the dip as I should be. Thanks for the tips, my Crossfit gym doesn't have any mirrors.
I did powerlifting for a couple years before trying crossfit. I basically cut all my weights in half during classes and still struggled. Powerlifting/squats are not meant to be done with 30 second rest intervals and you dont want to be doing heavy squats after maxing out on an assault bike for 5 minutes or some shit. don't know how good your cardio is but trying to actually build up your squats during cross fit classes is going to be nearly impossible. You will want dedicated days just for powerlifting with some rest in between. At the stage you're at you can probably squat every workout with something like 5x5 stronglifts and just get a lot of practice. If you cant control the weight on the way down you probably need to lower it.
 
Been avoiding cable machines most my life.

Tried a few exercises on them. Color me surprised, they are not just for faggots. Feels good, man.
Cable flies and cable tricep pushdowns and overhead extensions (with the rope attachment) are sooo nice. As long as you don't fag out with some Jeff Nippard twisty ninja chest pulls or whatever pencilneck shittery is popular nowadays, cables are great.
 
Should I do Judo classes or BJJ classes if I'm just starting out?
If it's just for exercise and fun, Judo.
Also are martial arts gyms a good place to make friends? I need to talk to more people irl.
Depends on two things: 1) your personality, and 2) the spirit of the dojo. - If you act like a hardass or a knob, many dojos will give you some "special attention" until you learn not to do that.
 
Depends on two things: 1) your personality, and 2) the spirit of the dojo. - If you act like a hardass or a knob, many dojos will give you some "special attention" until you learn not to do that.
Gyms/dojos were the only place for me that allowed for/facilitated intergenerational friendships and unrestricted underage drinking.
If it's just for exercise and fun, Judo.
BJJ has more utility in MMA, but I never met a judo guy that wasn't at least a little bit hardcore.

I shit you not, I met a guy in his 70s that can still roll around that mat when giving instructions. He had blackbelts from both IJF and the Kodokan Institute.

I think it's time we split to a dedicated martial arts general.
 
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I think it's time we split to a dedicated martial arts general
We have one, but tbh it’s just not active and I feel it’s pretty well established that this is the “physical activity general” thread.
Gyms/dojos were the only place for me that allowed for/facilitated intergenerational friendships
It’s kind of funny. You can be a twenty something college student and your top bro is a middle aged accountant who beats your ass every round, sports can be a bit of an equalizer.
 
As previously stated I am a literal skeleton, so there's no concern about diet or counting calories. Generally I just try to not do insanely retarded shit like eating an entire cake in one day. Well, at least not regularly.

Still at 0.6g/lb that's about 300g of chicken a day. I guess I'll have to go around looking at the labels of everything else I eat to figure out how much protein I'm incidentally getting.
GOMAD Can be Useful If You're Scrawny
If you're scrawny, then GOMAD (Gallon of Milk a Day) can help you. That is, you're severely underweight for your height such that you receive comments from friends, family, colleagues, etc., on it.

Taking Advantage of Novice Stage of Strength Training Curve, You Can Cut Later
You should milk (no pun intended) the hell out of the novice phase of the strength curve to put on as much muscle and strength you can.

You can easily perform a cut with a calorie deficit later, however, most of your gains will come from your novice phase and therefore ought to be taken advantage of.

If You Get Too Fat You Can (and should) Stop
Changes do not happen overnight, and it is pretty obvious when you're becoming fat. Just switch to a more lean diet with a higher protein concentration. It's harder to eat a bunch of protein, therefore, you will eat less and will just drop calories, which is an excellent strategy for cutting without tediously tracking calories.

Starting Strength Program for Novice Lifters
You should look into Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. I understand that it has some sort of meme reputation online, however, I have used the program, along with friends and family, with success.

This goes against conventional wisdom, however, in my experience, making sure you are in a calorie surplus is the most important aspect when it comes to gaining strength and muscle mass (not necessarily with the best muscle mass to fat ratio)

Food is Anabolic: Calorie Surplus Matters More Than Protein
I have tested out getting extremely high protein and getting really good sleep at or below maintenance calories and up plateauing on my numbers. (high protein + good sleep, <= maintanence calories) = stuck

I have tested out getting just chugging milk with piss poor sleep and I've moved up on my core lifts: deadlifts, bench, overhead press, squats. (low to medium protein + terrible sleep, > maintanence calories) = gainzzz

Milk Has Many Nutrients
Milk has quite a bit of nutrients and there is a heuristic that Mark Rippetoe exclaims about milk that goes something along the lines of: "Milk has all the nutrients to grow a baby cow and if it's good for them then it's good for you."

Speaking From Experience

These tips are from my experience with strength training for many, many years now. I used to get comments about how skinny I was and after doing strength training for 1.5 years, I had people come up to me for advice. Although I know "real" powerlifters would not consider me impressive, I'm among the strongest in most gyms as a natural (most gym goers don't do strength training or know how to train in general). I won't list out my numbers to avoid power leveling. I gained over 50lbs during the novice phase to reach a more reasonable weight and pretty large lift numbers.
Eggs are delicious, but half the protein by weight of chicken, and like four times as much cholesterol, which doesn't sound good, but I guess I do also eat whole cakes so what more damage could I do? I might start eating iron nails again too, that was a fun time.

Dietary cholesterol, especially from eggs, isn't as big of a deal as people say it is.

Here is a good document explaining why:
Debunking the Myth: Eggs and Heart Disease
 
Dietary cholesterol, especially from eggs, isn't as big of a deal as people say it is.
This. There is a huge difference between dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol. While eggs contain dietary cholesterol, in 98% of the population they don't have a direct effect on blood cholesterol. Same goes for other foods people screech about like red meat.

"Cholesterol", much like "fat" has been reduced to a marketing buzzword. It comes from the retarded baby boomer generation who replaced healthy fats like lard and butter with hyper processed substitutes like margarine and vegetable oil.

Eggs are good for you. Milk is good for you. The seed oil consumers who say otherwise are incorrect.
Eggs are especially good for you because most people don't eat organ meat. They have a similar nutritional profile. Just wish the price would come down, the last 4 years have felt like a /fit/ shoahcaust

Milk Has Many Nutrients
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Eggs are especially good for you because most people don't eat organ meat. They have a similar nutritional profile. Just wish the price would come down, the last 4 years have felt like a /fit/ shoahcaust
>tfw you've been buying the organic hormone free antibiotic free pasture raised eggs for the last ten years, not due to ethical concerns but purely because you don't trust the FDA or USDA to do anything and want to minimize the risk of consuming poison, and the price has stayed exactly the same because they were already $5-6 and Biden didn't mass genocide the healthy chickens for some reason

:)
 
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