Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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Did chest on Monday. Noticed on Tuesday a real sharp pain in left pec. Honestly at first thought it was heart issue at first. Turns out today I looked and noticed small bruising/ discoloration. Probably small tear. Anyone have this before?
 
Took a rest week after probably 6ish months of straight working out without missing a day. Will be interesting to see how things go, going to switching up lifts ive been doing.
 
So I've been trying to get fitter rather than just larger. Having a decent amount of muscle mass can hide your secretly a fat bastard really well.

Feeling great, the stomach my muscle mass used to hide is going down, making gains on my lifts. The weird thing is I'm only losing about 2lb per month but looking in the mirror would suggest a hell of a lot more?

I'm working out 3-4 times a week so it's not like I'm not over training or putting on insane muscle mass.

I'll just blame the creatine but does this happen to everyone else? I think I need to stop being lazy and get back to counting calories.
 
I'll just blame the creatine but does this happen to everyone else?
If you're thinking mostly about stomach/abs, yeah. Once you've got a sixpack the difference between skinnyfat and looking like Kratos is like 2% bodyfat, and this can be greatly exaggerated if you're coming out of a workout (pump) and also used the sauna (dehydration). If you can see your abs to that extent it's a pretty good heuristic that you're around 10-12% or lower.

Is there anything you can do to smuggle in exercise that doesn't make them think it's exercise? Hiking is good as it gives you and your friends a chance to catch up and have a chat and get a meal and a pint at the end of it. Start with a nice easy circular or trail and after a while he'll want more adventurous routes.
I wish. I love hiking and we've got a ton of good trails around here although they're pretty much inoperable this time of the year due to the weather. I'm just chalking them up to unsavable at this point, which is mildly depressing but really doesn't bother me because I did try, and most of them are just coworkers rather than friends (save for the one guy I did get to go swimming and rudimentary weights, trying passively to get him to deadlift now).
 
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I'll just blame the creatine but does this happen to everyone else? I think I need to stop being lazy and get back to counting calories.
On my last fat loss diet, I started creatine at the beginning, and made a few other drug related changes during it that resulted in pretty large increases in electrolyte/glycogen/water retention.

After 12 weeks, I dropped from 87 kg to 76, which is respectable progress, even without factoring that in. But I definitely had times where I was barely seeing the scale move, despite pretty aggressive deficits. Visually, though, I was always moving in the right direction, and by the end of it, I looked as lean as I'd normally expect to look at 72 or so kg, and my muscles seemed larger, despite not even lifting (I seriously doubt I actually gained muscle, it was just a fluid retention thing giving a cosmetic effect, but I'll take it)

I was being super neurotic about tracking food the whole time, though. If I wasn't, I think I probably would have stressed myself out, and convinced myself that I was delusional about how much better I was looking

But if creatine is the only factor, its probably not going to cause, like a linear increase in the amount of water you retain, over multiple months. You'll gain some water weight at first, but its not going to be like an extra pound per week, every week, for months, to "mask" presumed fat loss.

And yeah, like @ducktales4gameboy said, if you were already relatively lean, then losing a few pounds is going to make way bigger difference visually, then if you're like 30℅ bodyfat and losing the same amount of weight
 
And yeah, like @ducktales4gameboy said, if you were already relatively lean, then losing a few pounds is going to make way bigger difference visually, then if you're like 30℅ bodyfat and losing the same amount of weight
I’m about usually one stone (14lb just in case you Burgers don’t use stone, I only ever see you use lbs) from where I want to be weight wise.

At the moment I’ve got 10lb to loose and look less like a rugby player and more like a boxer. I’m liking it. Especially since I fucking hate rugby and everyone involved with it.
 
I’m about usually one stone (14lb just in case you Burgers don’t use stone, I only ever see you use lbs) from where I want to be weight wise.

At the moment I’ve got 10lb to loose and look less like a rugby player and more like a boxer. I’m liking it. Especially since I fucking hate rugby and everyone involved with it.
Just find a bigger stone, then you're only half a stone away.
 
I like lifting literal stones
I get distracted by the cool bugs underneath.

Well I'm officially over 250lbs.

I've been chasing a couple PRs for so long and I'm so god damned close. I could have hit them today but I wore myself out clearing land for my mom. Chopping wood kinda fucks, btw. For the last month or two I've been sitting around 246-248 so it's not even that big of a deal, it just feels bad.

My dumb faggot retard grandfather who doesn't know what to do with himself if he isn't making someone else feel bad saw me for the first time in four months and said I "need to spend more time in the gym". So in seven more months when he asks where I've been I'll tell him "the gym, like you told me to." Trying not to get one-guyed about it because multiple people have told me I don't look fat/look good/am "hot"/whatever, but it's really pissing me off. Fuck that retard.

Debating whether to do rolling 120s after this or something longer. Probably going to come down to whatever works best for retaining muscle, I've seen very contradictory studies on that.

More than anything I'm just annoyed with not being able to run now that it's nice out because I don't want to explode my knees with 50 extra pounds of impact.

Edit: oops I'm a retard and didn't realize I was double posting
 
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Relatively new to weight training, most of my experience is with cycling. Dropped that for a while, and let myself get pretty out of shape.

Dieted back down, no exercise other than walking at a moderate pace. Picked up weight training afterwards.

Did two months of training 3 days/WK, basic bitch bro split, but its enough for me to make great progress. After two months, took a deload for a week, and added on two days of bike training.

The bicycle intervals themselves have all been piss easy, and in just the first month, I've already brought my ftp up 4.4℅, despite only doing two days, and mostly focusing on lifting.

For a little while, despite how easy the training was on the bike, it seemed to be taking a recovery toll. I'd go into the gym planning to add 2.5 kg, feeling pretty sure that I was being a pussy, and could get away with another 5. Once I actually started my sets, I'd hit a wall, and not be able to move the weight, before I even got to a point where it felt like my muscles were actually working. Had to drop back down to the previous weeks weights on some movements, or even lower for others.

Think I just needed a few weeks to adjust to the added training load, I'm back to making progress on all of my lifts again. Still seem to be putting on muscle, as far as I can tell on such a short time scale

I've been putting on a little over 1kg/month for the past three months. Planning on one more month of that, then I'll be doing another fat loss diet. I should be about 84 kg going into it, planning to end it about 75. I'm actually really looking forward to it, it'll be nice to not need to eat so much. Unfortunately, I'm going to be spending about a month of it living out of a hotel in a foreign country, meaning I won't have a kitchen to prepare my own meals. It'll be interesting trying to do a diet exclusively on restaurant meals and street food.

Planning to use some retatrutide during it. I have pretty bad IBS, and retatrutide is the only way I've found to not have crippling diarrhea a dozen times each day. I'd love to run it year round, but actually first tried it after finishing my last diet, and had to drop it because even at 1/3 the starting dose used in clinical trials, the appetite suppression was making it really difficult for me to maintenance calories. Fingers crossed, I can build up enough tolerance to it over my diet to keep it in afterwards at a lower dose, and see if it still helps my stomach.
 
Howdy, my fellow Farmers who love The Iron. A thing I've been doing for the last month that I think is worth passing on is sandbag stuff prior to my ME lower lifts.

10 minutes of something is a solid warmup. It can be carries, extensions, picking it up to your shoulders, or loading. Pick a weight you know you can do for 10 minutes and just keep moving once you start. If you have a decently heavy medicine ball that can work too. Give it a shot if it sounds interesting and see how you like it.
 
Do you guys know how effective abdominal bodyweight exercises are compared to weighted ones? Getting a home gym but $1600 in I am balking at the costs of these things and am wondering if I can get equal/slightly less equal results with shit like ab wheels and mid-air/dip leg lifts.
 
Did chest on Monday. Noticed on Tuesday a real sharp pain in left pec. Honestly at first thought it was heart issue at first. Turns out today I looked and noticed small bruising/ discoloration. Probably small tear. Anyone have this before?
Not on my pec but on one of my quads before. I took it easy until the pain was gone, the bruise lasted a while.
 
Do you guys know how effective abdominal bodyweight exercises are compared to weighted ones? Getting a home gym but $1600 in I am balking at the costs of these things and am wondering if I can get equal/slightly less equal results with shit like ab wheels and mid-air/dip leg lifts.
Ab wheels are fantastic. With proper form, leg raises are also fantastic. Just be sure to not just drop your legs down (go slower on the way down) so you can work your lumbar some. Also be sure that when your feet are at the top of the rep you pick your butt/lower back off the ground to engage all of your abdominals
 
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Thinking of attaching a hook to my wall so I can do these knee tucks with elastic bands while I lay down. I sleep on a thin mattress on the floor so I wont bruise my back doing them anyway.
 
Do you guys know how effective abdominal bodyweight exercises are compared to weighted ones? Getting a home gym but $1600 in I am balking at the costs of these things and am wondering if I can get equal/slightly less equal results with shit like ab wheels and mid-air/dip leg lifts.
you can get anything you need for less and just eat right, older you get more you need to eat well and or do trt+... if you follow.

I don't have perfect abs but I'm not fat. I don't solo train abs. MY home gym was like 2k over all the years but thats also stuff mrs wanted and shit we don't use or niche for my former sport...

Is like brad pitt tummy your goal or what?
 
you can get anything you need for less and just eat right, older you get more you need to eat well and or do trt+... if you follow.

I don't have perfect abs but I'm not fat. I don't solo train abs. MY home gym was like 2k over all the years but thats also stuff mrs wanted and shit we don't use or niche for my former sport...

Is like brad pitt tummy your goal or what?
i want hot sluts to squirt at the sight of my naked body

I decided on an ab wheel and hanging leg lifts on my powercage; if thats too easy I'll try Russian Twists with my dumbbell.
 
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