we need to amend the constitution

[ArgonianVoter]

We all know that we need one, so I decided to write one, I came up with something along these lines:

This amendment hereby enacts these outlined protections to prevent second class citizenry within these United States. That the federal government shall have no ability to hire any persons once the threshold of point one percent (0.001 of 1) the population is reached such that no person may fall under federal employment after the threshold of one per one thousand persons have already been employed, including that of persons under third parties such as NGOs with the exceptions of standard and common military, standard and common first response and ordinary police personnel, nor may any persons living with in the United States under the income of quadruple that of the poverty limit or under be forced to engage with taxation that they did not consent to at any level of United States governance, or have any personally identifiable data aggregated including by that of third parties without an explicit and judicial warrant, nor may congress pass any laws targeting children or persons beneath the age of 18, nor pass any law mandating third parties collect biometric data of any form.

The brutal implications and forced restructuring of the fed is completely intentional, however I also purposefully left some things ambiguous for the purpose of your discussion. eliminating a large portion of the federal workforce is intentional. leaving the question of contractors and private ambiguous was left open for this debate and was not an oversight. the format of taxable consent was left open for this debate, the strong fiscal implications for the reduced revenue of the federal government from American citizens was not a mistake. I put these in here on purpose, and no I do not believe any member of congress is even remotely capable of being competent in writing laws to protect children in any form so I had also intentionally written into the bill a complete and total block of their abilities to do so. you don't have to agree with any of this, that's why I made the thread; for matters of discussion. I have no doubt in my mind that in the future other similar protections will be brought to the forefront of political debate.

As for the matter of practicality, I am already well aware that getting a sponsor is going to be nearly impossible, and that we're practically larping as lawmakers by even attempting to get a bill in the works, but that doesn't mean we can't hold an influence over the future by contributing to the discussion before it even comes into question which is the purpose of this thread.

 

[Core Theorist]

I got one.

"This amendment hereby enacts that all furries are to be executed on sight, and that every day in every legal place of employment within the Nation is to be considered casual Friday."

How about it, huh?

EDIT: typos, format.

 

[Althalus]

This amendment hereby enacts these outlined protections to prevent second class citizenry within these United States. That the federal government shall have no ability to hire any persons once the threshold of point one percent (0.001 of 1) the population is reached such that no person may fall under federal employment after the threshold of one per one thousand persons have already been employed, including that of persons under third parties such as NGOs with the exceptions of standard and common military, standard and common first response and ordinary police personnel, nor may any persons living with in the United States under the income of quadruple that of the poverty limit or under be forced to engage with taxation that they did not consent to at any level of United States governance, or have any personally identifiable data aggregated including by that of third parties without an explicit and judicial warrant, nor may congress pass any laws targeting children or persons beneath the age of 18, nor pass any law mandating third parties collect biometric data of any form.

Maybe I'm retarded and misreading it- but you are basically saying that

-the U.S. gov't should be severely shrunk by limiting the amount of people from any demographic that can be hired, (excepting military, cops and emergency response)
-people below a certain income should not be subject to non-consensual taxation at any level
-elimination of the federal census, internet cookies, and various other things on the basis of it being "personally identifiable info" and "biometric data"
-laws targeting anyone "beneath the age of 18" should not be allowed to pass

1) is an interesting idea to the problem of bloated government, never heard of that one, does allow for "talented tenth" minorities to be hired while keeping native population maximized and overall gov't size small. Though it does have the issue of incentivizing the gov't to expand the roles that cops and military play in governance (e.g. hire a bunch of cops to be IRS "accountants")

2) Excluding the poor and middle-class from taxation is a good idea, but the "under the income quadruple that of the poverty limit" part is ripe for abuse by simply changing what the "poverty limit" is.

3) I mostly support this, not opposed to a census so everyone knows who is in the country, but all the private data collection stuff needs to stop.

4) Is ridiculous, "laws targeting those under 18" would be broad enough to include age-of-consent laws which should absolutely remain in place, on top of other laws like murder, vandalism, or arson, which should also be enforced even if the perpetrator was underaged. There was a big problem with this in the 90s/00s because some cities changed laws so that teenage "gang members" would get lesser/no sentences, which caused the gangs to simply use minors to do all their dirty work.

A real Constitutional amendment that would fix the country, would include the right to freedom of association and the dissolution of the Fed in its entirety.

 

[ArgonianVoter]

"-the U.S. gov't should be severely shrunk by limiting the amount of people from any demographic that can be hired, (excepting military, cops and emergency response)" - yep
"-people below a certain income should not be subject to non-consensual taxation at any level" - yep
"-elimination of the federal census, internet cookies, and various other things on the basis of it being "personally identifiable info" and "biometric data"" nope, the short form is that it doesn't allow the government to take your data without a warrant and run algorithms against it, like palantir style shit, they can't go "oh he's suspicious because he commented about ICE or the ATF once and now we need to investigate him" because that's bullshit.

"-laws targeting anyone "beneath the age of 18" should not be allowed to pass" yep, to prevent congressmen from using children as shields for bad or malicious policy

"Though it does have the issue of incentivizing the gov't to expand the roles that cops and military play in governance (e.g. hire a bunch of cops to be IRS "accountants")" that's a perfectly valid concern, you are correct.

"2) Excluding the poor and middle-class from taxation is a good idea, but the "under the income quadruple that of the poverty limit" part is ripe for abuse by simply changing what the "poverty limit" is." true but any system is abusable, it's how we prevent it that matters.

"4) Is ridiculous, "laws targeting those under 18" would be broad enough to include age-of-consent laws which should absolutely remain in place, on top of other laws like murder, vandalism, or arson, which should also be enforced even if the perpetrator was underaged. There was a big problem with this in the 90s/00s because some cities changed laws so that teenage "gang members" would get lesser/no sentences, which caused the gangs to simply use minors to do all their dirty work." perhaps but at the same time, we cannot allow these dirty people who do not give a shit about minors to write policies designed to abuse minors and seize their rights from them long before they have any capacity to fight back.

 

[Scipio Neomericanus]

perhaps but at the same time, we cannot allow these dirty people who do not give a shit about minors to write policies designed to abuse minors and seize their rights from them long before they have any capacity to fight back.

This smells like something that a minor would say.

What rights would you say are being seized from them, or could be seized from them, that they should have?

 

[Endless Torment]

Congress can't even pass bills or do their job keep dreaming.

 

[ArgonianVoter]

This smells like something that a minor would say.

What rights would you say are being seized from them, or could be seized from them, that they should have?

dude have you not seen the uk? that's the direction we're all going. you see children eventually become adults, so when you take rights away from adults you take them away from children too especially when you're using those same children as shields. we need it to stop, we need america's kids to stop being shields for bad policy, by the time they grow up they should be able to buy a home for the same cost as their parents and grandparents, they shouldn't have to give their IDs to use the internet, shop, or buy crypto currency, they should be capable of sending mail anonymously and not being surrounded by 40 fucking flock cameras. why the hell would you give the same people with the powers of decision who frequently choose a scapegoat to perform malicious actions in their greed? that's the thing, children can't speak out until it's too late, their opinions do not matter and that's a perfect recipe for systemic abuse. you can "protect the children" by not letting these kid fucking faggots make any decisions for children.