We Need Fully Automated Luxury Communism - Why? I don't fucking know

  • 🏰 The Fediverse is up. If you know, you know.
  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
It starts with a burger.

In 2008 a Dutch professor named Mark Post presented the proof of concept for what he called “cultured meat.” Five years later, in a London TV studio, Mr. Post and his colleagues ate a burger they had grown from animal cells in a laboratory. Secretly funded by Sergey Brin, a co-founder of Google, the journey from petri dish to plate had cost $325,000 — making theirs the most expensive meal in history. Fortunately, the results were promising: Hanni Rützler, a nutrition scientist, concluded that the patty was “close to meat but not as juicy.” The next question was whether this breakthrough could be made cheaper. Much cheaper.

The first “cultured beef” burgers are likely to enter the market next year, at approximately $50 each. But that won’t last long. Within a decade they will probably be more affordable than even the cheapest barbecue staples of today — all for a product that uses fewer resources, produces negligible greenhouse gases and, remarkably, requires no animals to die.
It’s not just barbecues and burgers. Last year Just, a leader in cellular agriculture, cut a deal to start producing one of the world’s tastiest steaks, Wagyu. A company called Endless West, which also makes grapeless wine, has started to produce Glyph, the world’s first “molecular whiskey.” Luxury could be coming to all.
The case of cultured food and drink, far from a curiosity, is a template for a better, freer and more affluent world, a world where we provide for the needs of everyone — in style.

But how do we get there?

To say the present era is one of crisis borders on cliché. It differs from the dystopias of George Orwell or Aldous Huxley, or hell in the paintings of Hieronymus Bosch. It is unlike Europe during the Black Death or Central Asia as it faced the galloping Golden Horde. And yet it is true: Ours is an age of crisis. We inhabit a world of low growth, low productivity and low wages, of climate breakdown and the collapse of democratic politics. A world where billions, mostly in the global south, live in poverty. A world defined by inequality.
But the most pressing crisis of all, arguably, is an absence of collective imagination. It is as if humanity has been afflicted by a psychological complex, in which we believe the present world is stronger than our capacity to remake it — as if it were not our ancestors who created what stands before us now. As if the very essence of humanity, if there is such a thing, is not to constantly build new worlds.

If we can move beyond such a failure, we will be able to see something wonderful. The plummeting cost of information and advances in technology are providing the ground for a collective future of freedom and luxury for all.

Automation, robotics and machine learning will, as many august bodies, from the Bank of England to the White House, have predicted, substantially shrink the work force, creating widespread technological unemployment. But that’s only a problem if you think work — as a cashier, driver or construction worker — is something to be cherished. For many, work is drudgery. And automation could set us free from it.

Gene editing and sequencing could revolutionize medical practice, moving it from reactive to predictive. Hereditary diseases could be eliminated, including Huntington’s disease, cystic fibrosis and sickle cell anemia, and cancer cured before it reaches Stage 1. Those technologies could allow us to keep pace with the health challenges presented by societal aging — by 2020 there will be more people over the age of 60 than under the age of 5 — and even to surpass them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/06/...try=US&blockId=home-featured&imp_id=923561952
What’s more, renewable energy, which has been experiencing steep annual falls in cost for half a century, could meet global energy needs and make possible the vital shift away from fossil fuels. More speculatively, asteroid mining — whose technical barriers are presently being surmounted — could provide us with not only more energy than we can ever imagine but also more iron, gold, platinum and nickel. Resource scarcity would be a thing of the past.

The consequences are far-reaching and potentially transformative. For the crises that confront our world today — technological unemployment, global poverty, societal aging, climate change, resource scarcity — we can already glimpse the remedy.

But there’s a catch. It’s called capitalism. It has created the newly emerging abundance, but it is unable to share round the fruits of technological development. A system where things are produced only for profit, capitalism seeks to ration resources to ensure returns. Just like today’s, companies of the future will form monopolies and seek rents. The result will be imposed scarcity — where there’s not enough food, health care or energy to go around.

So we have to go beyond capitalism. Many will find this suggestion unwholesome. To them, the claim that capitalism will or should end is like saying a triangle doesn’t have three sides or that the law of gravity no longer applies while an apple falls from a tree. But for a better world, where everyone has the means to a good life on a habitable planet, it is an imperative.
We can see the contours of something new, a society as distinct from our own as that of the 20th century from feudalism, or urban civilization from the life of the hunter-gatherer. It builds on technologies whose development has been accelerating for decades and that only now are set to undermine the key features of what we had previously taken for granted as the natural order of things.

To grasp it, however, will require a new politics. One where technological change serves people, not profit. Where the pursuit of tangible policies — rapid decarbonization, full automation and socialized care — are preferred to present fantasies. This politics, which is utopian in horizon and everyday in application, has a name: Fully Automated Luxury Communism.

Sounds good, doesn’t it?
Full Article | Archive
d4015ebf535d90e35debb40009365447.png


I had no idea that there were people out there who unironically believed in this fucking meme. I always thought it was a joke, I didn't know it was based off of an actual idiot.
 
Last edited:
If Sergey Brin hates capitalism so much then he is fully welcome to not pay $325,000 for a fucking cloneburger.

Oh wait hmm maybe that breakthrough of science wouldn't exist without capitalism in the first place because the scientists and engineers responsible wouldn't want to break their backs and ruin their lives with 80-hour weeks of extremely intensive brainsweat and labor for years on end if they weren't getting compensated for it.
 
Vat meat is a lab curiosity and we know it’s going to stay that way for some time
 
For a second i thought this article was written by Moviebob because it spouts absolutely everything he spews every single time he speaks about his "superior future".

It's quite laughable they speak about imposed scarcity when the only industries where imposed scarcity is a thing is in luxury goods. Or do you think there is a real conspiracy to starve millions of africans outside the fact that that it would cost an insane amount of money to do so? It's all about the fact that solving the world's problems require an herculean effort to be solved and no one is willing to undertake it because what would be the reward for it? A pat on the back and a thank you note?
 
For many, work is drudgery. And automation could set us free from it.

Sure if your career is a cashier or a cab driver, maybe I'm too privileged to understand this perspective as my career of choice (accounting) was actually fun to me and something I'm pretty positive that I'll enjoy while being wanted in the current economy, but personally I can't wait to get out of college so I can work. Because I chose a career I care about and that brings me meaning to my life on a personal level for the next 30 or so years hopefully. I feel bad for less marketable professions that have passionate people, but at the same time work by itself isn't suffering unless you hate your job. Being a NEET isn't fun forever, it feels empty after a few years.

Also what incentive exists to make this automated communism? Are we just going to make the government do it? The government can barely handle running its current shit, now you want them to run basically everything?
 
Last edited:
The idea of luxury communism is the clearest expression of the lack of ‘collective imagination’ this afg thinks he is talking about. He wants a rocking chair and a retirement home. Work on space instead and jettison some smarties off to colonise mars n shit while the old world becomes pirate haven. That is the best outcome of this shit. Equality for the global south spells doom.
 
I'm confused. Are we supposed to be afraid or supportive of the free agents of society that may or may not be deeply psychoconditioned agents of our AI overlords?

Because the only realistic depictions of post scarcity society also employ deeply mindfucked agents to keep the system on the rails by murdering dissenting civilians
 
Some utopian blubbering about idealistic notions of which only some of which are feasible and all of those will end up being destroyed by the very system this article writer proposes.
 
Equality for the global south spells doom
As cruel as it may sound, it is true. Sending money to Africa is just throwing away money uselessly or just sending money to China proxies. This tied with the mentality of most sub saharian people and their overall "think for myself today and nothing else" should tell a lot of people that you should let them be even if the media keeps showing you how bad they have it.
 
If you'd like to read a viable portrayal of what could be called Luxury Space Communism, I suggest Bruce Sterling Schismatrix Plus.
It's noteworthy to add that such a society is only possible when humanity sheds its earthly caul.
 
We inhabit a world of low growth, low productivity and low wages, of climate breakdown and the collapse of democratic politics.

We inhabit a world of faggoloons that want to convince everyone on Earth that we don't live in literally the best time period in human history for quality of life so that we'll accept their retarded ideology that will push us back to a misery unknown to most of the world for a century.

One where technological change serves people, not profit.

Ah, like it did in the USSR--Oh right not real communism.

Ah, like it did in Red China--Oh right not real communism.

Ah, like it did in Cuba--Oh right not real communism.

Ah, like it did in Venezuela--Oh right not real communism.

These people are like fucking children. When I was nine I thought communism was a great idea then I learned about this thing called FUCKING REALITY.

This politics, which is utopian in horizon and everyday in application, has a name: Fully Automated Luxury Communism.

Yeah I've seen that movie and it doesn't involve lab grown meat it involves grinding people up into wafers and feeding them to the miserable populace.

I'm starting to reach a point where I want to begin advocating for the execution of communists and communist sympathizers.

I'm sorry...I didn't notice before that this entire OpEd is an ad for his faggy book. Are you kidding me? Gotta admire the grift.

Hey fellow commies buy my book!

795618


Edited for: Wow this guy really got me to drop a lot of f bomb's gotta dial that back.
 
Last edited:
Every time I see one of these “we need X” articles I ask “what are you going to do to provide it other than bitch online?”
The answer is always nothing.
 
Full Article | Archive
d4015ebf535d90e35debb40009365447.png


I had no idea that there were people out there who unironically believed in this fucking meme. I always thought it was a joke, I didn't know it was based off of an actual idiot.
Once again, I actually agree with a few points in the first half of the article (not the equality one nor caring about any collapse of democracy), but it goes full retard in the last three paragraphs or so

What’s with Commies being able to partially point out criticisms in the status quo but having absolutely retarded “solutions” that do nothing to fix what they bitch about in the first place?
 
There's so much text to mock and everyone's already done a great job, so I'm good.

--the world’s first “molecular whiskey.” Luxury could be coming to all.
The case of cultured food and drink, far from a curiosity, is a template for a better, freer and more affluent world, a world where we provide for the needs of everyone — in style.
Oh oh I got one; A writer who thinks of heavy alcohol as a need? What a surprise!

Fucking immoral dipshit.
 
Back
Top Bottom