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You know, with new vehicle rules, the cheapie plastic melta/fist helbrute might not be half bad at all. No penalties for moving and shooting (which is something my DG already had), and being able to shoot meltas into close combat really breathes new life into them.
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Get a real vehicle, like a caladius Chad cannon.
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When I play an Imperial lackey, I run Marines Malevolent.
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>Not even a Mino Chad
SMH
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Glad I'm having Helbrutes in my Alpha Legion army, then.
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The fact that the Legion Trait makes them more survivable as they foot slog makes the melta/fist combo even better. I'm actually thinking about stripping my two Helbrutes now that being DG doesn't really offer them anything, and Myphitic Blight-Haulers serve the same purpose.
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Mfw people whine about conga lines.
Grey knights get to laugh too I guess, but fuck those fags.
Grey knights get to laugh too I guess, but fuck those fags.
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Any word on if Custodes will be anything beyond a meme tier army post-PA update / 9th edition?
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Alright, then.
I'm going to organize them in the following:
| Card | Upright Meanings | Reverse Meaning | Legion Designation | Primarch Discovery Order |
With that clarified, here we go [it's surprising how much of this matches up to the legion, the primarch, or both]:
| The Magician | willpower, desire, being resourceful, skill, ability, concentration, manifestation | manipulation, cunning, trickery, wasted talent, illusion, deception | I - The Dark Angels | Horus Lupercal, Primarch of the Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus |
| The High Priestess | unconscious, intuition, mystery, spirituality, higher power, inner voice | repressed intuition, hidden motives, superficiality, confusion, cognitive dissonance | II - [REDACTED] (Lost Legion) | Leman Russ, Primarch of the Space Wolves |
| The Empress | divine feminine, sensuality, fertility, nurturing, creativity, beauty, abundance, nature | insecurity, overbearing, negligence, smothering, lack of growth, lack of progress | III - The Emperor's Children (lol) | Primarch of the Second Legion |
| The Emperor | stability, structure, protection, authority, control, practicality, focus, discipline | tyrant, domineering, rigid, stubborn, lack of discipline, recklessness | IV - The Iron Warriors | Ferrus Manus, Primarch of the Iron Hands |
| The Hierophant | tradition, social groups, conventionality, conformity, education, knowledge, beliefs | rebellion, unconventionality, non-conformity, new methods, ignorance | V - The White Scars | Fulgrim, Primarch of The Emperor's Children |
| The Lovers | love, unions, partnerships, relationships, choices, romance, balance, unity | disharmony, imbalance, conflict, detachment, bad choices, indecision | VI - The Space Wolves | Vulkan, Primarch of the Salamanders |
| The Chariot | success, ambition, determination, willpower, control, self-discipline, focus | forceful, no direction, no control, powerless, aggression, obstacles | VII - The Imperial Fists | Rogal Dorn, Primarch of the Imperial Fists |
| Strength | courage, bravery, confidence, compassion, self-confidence, inner power | self-doubt, weakness, low confidence, inadequacy, cowardice, forcefulness | VIII - The Night Lords | Roboute Guilliman, Primarch of the Ultramarines |
| The Hermit | self-reflection, introspection, contemplation, withdrawal, solitude, search for self | loneliness, isolation, recluse, being anti-social, rejection, returning to society | IX - The Blood Angels | Magnus the Red, Primarch of the Thousand Sons |
| The Wheel of Fortune | change, cycles, fate, decisive moments, luck, fortune, unexpected events | bad luck, lack of control, clinging to control, unwelcome changes, delays | X - The Iron Hands | Sanguinius, Primarch of the Blood Angels |
| Justice | justice, karma, consequence, accountability, law, truth, honesty, integrity, cause and effect | injustice, retribution, dishonesty, corruption, dishonesty, unfairness, avoiding accountability | XI - [REDACTED] (Lost Legion) | Lion El'Jonson, Primarch of the Dark Angels |
| The Hanged Man | sacrifice, waiting, uncertainty, lack of direction, perspective, contemplation | stalling, disinterest, stagnation, avoiding sacrifice, standstill, apathy | XII - The World Eaters | Perturabo, Primarch of the Iron Warriors |
| Death | transformation, endings, change, transition, letting go, release | fear of change, repeating negative patterns, resisting change, stagnancy, decay | XIII - The Ultramarines (lol) | Mortarion, Primarch of the Death Guard |
| Temperance | balance, peace, patience, moderation, calm, tranquillity, harmony, serenity | imbalance, excess, extremes, discord, recklessness, hastiness | XIV - The Death Guard | Lorgar Aurelian, Primarch of the Word Bearers |
| The Devil | oppression, addiction, obsession, dependency, excess, powerlessness, limitations | independence, freedom, revelation, release, reclaiming power, reclaiming control | XV - The Thousand Sons | Jaghatai Khan, Primarch of the White Scars |
| The Tower | disaster, destruction, upheaval, trauma, sudden change, chaos | averting disaster, delaying the inevitable, resisting change | XVI - The Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus/Black Legion | Konrad Curze, Primarch of the Night Lords |
| The Star | hope, inspiration, positivity, faith, renewal, healing, rejuvenation | hopelessness, despair, negativity, lack of faith, despondent | XVII - The Word Bearers | Angron, Primarch of the World Eaters |
| The Moon | illusion, intuition, uncertainty, confusion, complexity, secrets, unconscious | fear, deception, anxiety, misunderstanding, misinterpretation, clarity, understanding | XVIII - The Salamanders | Corvus Corax, Primarch of the Raven Guard |
| The Sun | happiness, success, optimism, vitality, joy, confidence, happiness, truth | blocked happiness, excessive enthusiasm, pessimism, unrealistic expectations, conceitedness | XIX - The Raven Guard | Primarch of the Eleventh Legion |
| Judgment | self-evaluation, awakening, renewal, purpose, reflection, reckoning | self-doubt, lack of self-awareness, failure to learn lessons, self-loathing | XX - The Alpha Legion | Alpharius & Omegon, Primarchs of the Alpha Legion |
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So with GW talking about patrol detachments i’ve came up with a couple 25 power point lists
Necrons - 25PP
Necron Lord - 5
Staff of light
Necron Warriors x10 - 6
Necron Warriors x10 - 6
Triarch Stalker - 8
Heat Ray
Lord walks up the board behind the triarch stalker with a squad of Warriors each side re rolling ones from the lord and stalker on units it hits with the heat ray. Alternatively I could split it into two groups with one squad of warriors following the lord and the other bubble wrapping the stalker get buffs from the targeting relay ability.
Dark Angels - 25PP
Primaris Master - 6
Master crafted auto bolt rifle
Power sword
Intercessor squad x5
bolt rifle x5, bolt pistol x5, Frag & Krak Grendades
Intercessor squad x5
bolt rifle x5, bolt pistol x5, Frag & Krak Grendades
Suppressor Squad x3 - 5
Accelerator Cannon x3, Bolt pistol x3 Frag & Krak grenades
Eliminator Squad x3 - 4
Bolt Sniper rifle x3, bolt pistol x3, Frag and Krak grenades
Master can buff intecessors with re rolls while walking up the board. Eliminators pick of characters and Suppresors can prevent overwatch which will be ridiculously overpowered if split firing still exists in 9th.
Necrons - 25PP
Necron Lord - 5
Staff of light
Necron Warriors x10 - 6
Necron Warriors x10 - 6
Triarch Stalker - 8
Heat Ray
Lord walks up the board behind the triarch stalker with a squad of Warriors each side re rolling ones from the lord and stalker on units it hits with the heat ray. Alternatively I could split it into two groups with one squad of warriors following the lord and the other bubble wrapping the stalker get buffs from the targeting relay ability.
Dark Angels - 25PP
Primaris Master - 6
Master crafted auto bolt rifle
Power sword
Intercessor squad x5
bolt rifle x5, bolt pistol x5, Frag & Krak Grendades
Intercessor squad x5
bolt rifle x5, bolt pistol x5, Frag & Krak Grendades
Suppressor Squad x3 - 5
Accelerator Cannon x3, Bolt pistol x3 Frag & Krak grenades
Eliminator Squad x3 - 4
Bolt Sniper rifle x3, bolt pistol x3, Frag and Krak grenades
Master can buff intecessors with re rolls while walking up the board. Eliminators pick of characters and Suppresors can prevent overwatch which will be ridiculously overpowered if split firing still exists in 9th.
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If their costs are mostly left alone from the universal cost increases that have been hinted, then they'll be a lot more threatening. I cant imagine them raising their unit costs any more. 9th ed is also giving them more command points which is very helpful because they have some very potent strategems.
However at the end of the day you need those FW models. They are just required to fill in a lot of their weaknesses.
Their PA stuff has given them some more stuff to play around with, and has given a reason to play less used units like ventarii and sagittrum once they get more cp.
What I really want to see is a rework of the warden, because as it is there is really on one use case if you even want to use one. Which is to give it a vexilla and castle it with trajan and you caladius'/telemon. Even then I would only really say that's a good choice against shooting armies. Anything else you'll just want to spend the points on something else.
tl;dr if they get to keep their current amount of models while everyone else gets shaved down a bit then they will be "playable" without FW
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@5t3n0g0ph3r most of those do fit, which is scary, in a way.
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As someone who watches casual games and doesn't play, I have a completely exceptional take.
However, we have very little idea how points are going to shake out other than a general increase. Melee and vehicles seem to be getting a buff, shooting a push or nerf, and horde's a nerf to almost hobbling. However, points could kill any of those.
It seems like they are slightly decreasing the size of a previously pointed match, with 3000 being the new 2000, and 500 points almost being Killteam.
If I had to guess, unless points kill them, Custodes having essentially an all elite army (plus sisters now) will probably help them in a smaller format. To me the losers seem to be Knights, since the is a lot of new terrain bonuses that they are almost specifically excluded from. But they get put Knights into reserve and get more CP now it's looks so it's all very speculative.
Likely though, the more options you have the stronger you're going to be, and I'd bet Marines and Necrons are going to be there strongest at launch do to having the most new toys.
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There's a 30 second teaser for a new fan project, The Exodite, on YouTube.
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a lot of these I dont see really fitting.
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I started on some Gnoblars today and I can say that it's possibly the worst kit I've ever bought. Some of them are too spindly and break when you look at them, and others are formless dollops of plastic with little detail. If I didn't find them adorable, I wouldn't even bother.
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The indomitus box goes up on the 11th and releases at the end of the month. I decided I'll just fucking get it.
It's seems like they shat this out real quick after announcement.
It's seems like they shat this out real quick after announcement.
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I suspect COVID screwed up some things, people were sitting on Psychic Awakening spoilers they couldn't buy for a long time, I'm guessing 9th would of been started previews a lot earlier in a world with out the Chinese.