Warhammer 40k

[Sargon's wife's son]

Satire doesn't need to be funny. The setting is satire, it taking itself seriously internally doesn't make it not satire. Rule of cool grimdark nonsense doesn't make it not satire.

Warhammer 40KS never been satire whatsoever. According to Rick Priestley, the creator of Warhammer 40K and everyone who originally created the setting.
As a radar and a tabletop game designer, people saying your work is satire when you never intended it to be so, or fucking retarded. One more person says Death, the author, which is an idea created by an annoying faggot Dutch communist who is too much of a bitch to find a World War Two.
I trust the world of legendary game designer. Who is in a complete douche quickly over the opinion of ridiculous homosexual? Faggots. Who make up some of the Warhammer community.

That's unironically how and why a lot of humans willingly join the Tau.

"Hey, are you tired of getting treated like shit and told its because the Emperor wills it? What if I told you there was another way? A way that didn't involve selling your soul to the Warp. Sounds too good to be true, but I assure you, its not."

Then you join them and you're still treated like shit because you ultimately someone who doesn't have any useful skills to offer them.
I see the book long shot where those massive slums around the really nice. Point of the city. They take over and still treat the people like shit.
But not the guides men. Betray the Emperor.
Also, all the announcements are fucking awesome. For once, GW isn't doing stupid shit. I guess it must be a day ending in Y.

 

[SIMIΔN]

chicks kicking ass is fine so long as they actually look the part

Historically, nomadic tribes in hazardous biomes were more overprotective of their women, not less, as it was already dangerously hard to sustain a population.

making them smooth operators/courtiers capable of political intrigue just isn't it.

They're superhuman envoys of the Imperium's living god, they might not be the best with words, but still command obedience.

there's really no way to make the Terminus Decree make sense.

Well, if Big E is off the throne, then it is possible the daemon problem has been solved and the hyperspecialised zealous Grey Knights aren't worth the cost or risk anymore. Ordering them on a suicide mission to the throne would tie up that loose end.

Alright so Im basically on a Tau Binge and ive been enjoying it immensely .

You'd enjoy The Greater Evil too. It features a Mechanicus planet with a bug infection trying to join the Tau. None of that bullshit with Kroot sniffing out anything.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CK8V9sZDY-o

Deathwatch is a good choice, I wonder what they'll use for abilities/'willpower' since they aren't psychic.

didn't Three Kingdoms outsell WH3?

The base game outsold WH2 at release, but DLC sales were terrible.
My scepticism towards TW:40K is mainly due to it releasing on consoles alongside PC, whilst I've heard CA did a decent job with the Halo RTS, TW is on another scale.

 

[Newcomer 42]

WH40k is in a weird position of trying to be more positive to sell better to the masses, but still must be grimdark so whatever steps forward are countered, getting stuck in a weird limbo.
That Deathwatch game will at least let you genocide the Tau, which is always fun to do.

 

[The tired cat]

Deathwatch looks fun, I did enjoy Chaos Gate despite some of its rough edges, DoW4 looks nice and glad it has the crusade gameplay back, TW40k Im hopeful but ye skeptical about it. Kinda surprised they didnt announce any new 40k FPS games

 

[Retreaded Tire]

Rynns World

I can't engage with these books because it always reminds me of this

 

[FagDiddler]

Well, if Big E is off the throne, then it is possible the daemon problem has been solved and the hyperspecialised zealous Grey Knights aren't worth the cost or risk anymore. Ordering them on a suicide mission to the throne would tie up that loose end.

I've warmed to the idea with recent lore that the Emperor is destined to become the Dark King, sort of like the Human version of Slaanesh as being the manifestation of the species' worst traits, and that the endless sacrifice of psyker souls is the only things sating him enough to keep that awakening from happening. The new Terminus Decree lore makes sense if this is true, as it would be like a final Hail Mary if the Emperor woke up and ascended. Sure the Grey Knights would be almost certainly committing suicide, but given how fucked Humanity would be if they failed, it would be worth a try anyway.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Sure the Grey Knights would be almost certainly committing suicide, but given how fucked Humanity would be if they failed, it would be worth a try anyway.

I don't know much about the Dark King but even if they could teleport directly into the palace, don't the sisters of silence hard counter an army of pure psychers, and the custodians are physically superior in every way. It would have made more sense if they had a superweapon to delete Terra.

 

[FagDiddler]

I don't know much about the Dark King but even if they could teleport directly into the palace, don't the sisters of silence hard counter an army of pure psychers, and the custodians are physically superior in every way. It would have made more sense if they had a superweapon to delete Terra.

For sure, I don't think the recon of the Terminus Decree is perfect, but I do think they made it to further cement the Dark King as a canon part of the setting by making the Decree's purpose less vague and more direct. A virus bomb that kills Space Marines (like what people mainly theorized the decree to be before) can exist for a lot of reasons, in a post End and the Death setting, there's basically only one reason why the Grey Knights would ever be tasked with sitting the Emperor back on his throne. (At least from my reading.)

Edit: And the Grey Knights being the ones who need to fight the Emperor could likely be explained by the total devotion of the Custodes. If the Emperor became a Chaos God, there's no chance the Custodians would be anything but his Greater Daemons. The Grey Knights are a poor choice for the mission, but it's not like anyone else in the Sol system could do any better.

 

[creaturestorm]

They're superhuman envoys of the Imperium's living god, they might not be the best with words, but still command obedience.

They fit that schtick much better, but

"DO WHAT I SAY OR ELSE"

is very Boring in a setting chalk full of that already. I'd rather they just go back to being completely mysterious and working in the shadows completing clandestine missions or something.

 

[Milkshake Sniffer]

WH40k is in a weird position of trying to be more positive to sell better to the masses, but still must be grimdark so whatever steps forward are countered, getting stuck in a weird limbo.
That Deathwatch game will at least let you genocide the Tau, which is always fun to do.

It's the issue that just keeps repeating itself when products/IPs come under the control of generic execs (esp marketers) and owners as opposed to those who created or built the product in the first place.

1 - They recognise that they have a successful product that appeals to a sufficient customer base but not everyone.
2 - They want everyone and identify the core characteristic that attracts the current customer base but does not secure universal success (in this case grimdark).
3 - In a stroke of inspiration they decide the solution is to remove/emasculate this pesky impediment to global sales domination oblivious to understanding that removing what is core to the product will lose the existing customer base but will not generate a new audience because a) you are left with an insipid shell of a product and b) the wider desired audience was never interested in the product.

Add in the egos of those now owning/controlling the product who have unshakeable beliefs that they know better than their predecessors who made the product successful from nothing and they will make the product what it should always have been and the prospects for disaster increase dramatically. Also add in public criticism and belittling of the existing customer base and prepare shocked Pikachu face when they react by rejecting the new anodyne product that no longer provides what got them interested in the original product.

It used to be a fundamental rule of marketing that it is so much easier to sell more product to existing customers than attract new customers.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

I've warmed to the idea with recent lore that the Emperor is destined to become the Dark King, sort of like the Human version of Slaanesh as being the manifestation of the species' worst traits, and that the endless sacrifice of psyker souls is the only things sating him enough to keep that awakening from happening. The new Terminus Decree lore makes sense if this is true, as it would be like a final Hail Mary if the Emperor woke up and ascended. Sure the Grey Knights would be almost certainly committing suicide, but given how fucked Humanity would be if they failed, it would be worth a try anyway.

AFAIK there’s 3 candidates for becoming the Dark King. BigE obviously casted off that part of him, which I think is what Lion saw in the warp. And the corpse that remains on the throne is another aspect of BigE. There’s also theories that Valdor is out there looking for BigE’s true name too.

However this is all Abnett inserts for his side stories

 

[Bœuf Bourguignon]

I know many people wished for the continuation of the storyline for years, but I think it has been a big mistake. 40k as a sandbox setting with unknown outcome is the best.

The stories that happen in between are where the fun is anyways. HH was successful (for most) and people still want more of the Badab War. There are so many stories to be told and expanded without the need to ruin the cornerstone of the setting.

There is no need for futher metaphysical bullshittery about the Emperor. Him being this halfdead corpse on the golden throne humanity ia reliant on is peak and I don't want anything more happening to it or change it.

 

[iceteayo]

I know many people wished for the continuation of the storyline for years, but I think it has been a big mistake. 40k as a sandbox setting with unknown outcome is the best.

The stories that happen in between are where the fun is anyways. HH was successful (for most) and people still want more of the Badab War. There are so many stories to be told and expanded without the need to ruin the cornerstone of the setting.

There is no need for futher metaphysical bullshittery about the Emperor. Him being this halfdead corpse on the golden throne humanity ia reliant on is peak and I don't want anything more happening to it or change it.

I don’t want the badab war it had two imperial armor books you had enough. Look up the war of the false primarch that’s cool.

 

[Rick The Stick]

My issue with the Decree is simply the logistics. Do they have allies who have some vague idea of of a super important mission they'll be called to one day, and when it happens they rock up to Terra with a Crusades worth of Chapters and auxilia? Do they just say "fuck it" and throw literally everything they've got all at once and hope they cause enough pure chaos and confusion that they can blitzkrieg the Palace solo? Idk man.
I'm finding the GK kinda dumb the more I dig into them. That's probably not helping.