Got home from work and the missus surprised me with some Solar Auxilia.
Been going back and forth between which legion to do for the (dogshit) new edition of Horus Heresy and eventually decided to skip choosing and do Solar Auxilia. Change is good.
It's a start. Will be nice not assembling space marines, orks or tau because I've been doing that for literal decades at this point. Not looking as forward to painting them, they're very small, very detailed but it'll help me improve. Probably gonna paint them as Colchisian Torquatii to support my small Word Bearers force or Archite Palatines to support my Emperors Children.
I think it's pretty clear he just chose the worst possible outcomes and followed those. Like when Konrad was chasing that boy and got the vision of the boy either wounding him, or sparing the kid and the kid going on to be a great and honorable soldier for him in the future. Curze chooses to kill the boy only to realise afterwards that the boy would never have been able to reach the knife in time to wound him.
Curze was fucked in the head from the start for sure, but he made the choices that lead to him becoming the Night Haunter and set the example for his Legion to follow. Just like Sev told him, Curze could have gone about things a different way but he didn't.
Been going back and forth between which legion to do for the (dogshit) new edition of Horus Heresy and eventually decided to skip choosing and do Solar Auxilia. Change is good.
It's a start. Will be nice not assembling space marines, orks or tau because I've been doing that for literal decades at this point. Not looking as forward to painting them, they're very small, very detailed but it'll help me improve. Probably gonna paint them as Colchisian Torquatii to support my small Word Bearers force or Archite Palatines to support my Emperors Children.
Lmfao, I just snagged the solar auxillia battlegroup on fb for half of its original msrp, I think im going to use it as a small zone mortalis force and paint them as a custom cohort for my IW. I might grab the combat force though just so I have a bit for flexibility and I kinda want a basalisk to really hammer in the siege vibes.
I got incredibly lucky, it was one of two copies left in the store and that's only because the store itself is a small out of the way store, not some big hobby store that everyone and their mom goes too. Though it is gaining popularity, specifically because the dude who owns it buys card singles as well as miniatures for like 60 percent their value which is nice.
God I hate lore channels. Someone mentioned this video to me and I checked out the first quarter of it or so, but it's kinda funny in a way. Not worth watching, I'll provide a summary.
Didn't care about Primaris and everything tied to Cawl
Didn't care about the Rogal Dorn tank
Didn't care about an entire class of imperial knights popping into existence
Didn't care about femstodes
Now that guard got more than one new vehicle in a wave without any lore, suddenly it's the silent death of the STC and GW just releases anything they want without any consideration for the lore. All while seemingly ignoring that in current lore(and this is a fucking lore channel) there are more and more admech magos(magii? you know wtf I mean) openly experimenting and doing science due to Cawl's influence leading to a rift between admech forgeworlds regarding science and xenos tech and what to do about the hereteks. But this, this is now his line in the sand, a couple of IFVs for guard is what has him complaining about canon and dropping specific dates in modern lore(this has been happening for years). He even goes back to old issues of WD from 30 years ago to complain about some articles that went over how to kitbash ww2 models into 40 vehicles and how even then GW didn't talk about STCs or whatever.
It's just funny hearing a guy like this finally realize that GW has been shit about this for decades.
edit: Oh right, I forgot about the beginning of the video and his apology. Apparently although he gives so much of a shit about a couple new guard vehicles, I guess he got called out in the comments of a previous video for complaining about the names of them while forgetting that guard already has the manticore, hydra, chimera, etc. as if there wasn't already a precedent for using mythological creatures as names.
Now that guard got more than one new vehicle in a wave without any lore, suddenly it's the silent death of the STC and GW just releases anything they want without any consideration for the lore. All while seemingly ignoring that in current lore(and this is a fucking lore channel) there are more and more admech magos(magii? you know wtf I mean) openly experimenting and doing science due to Cawl's influence leading to a rift between admech forgeworlds regarding science and xenos tech and what to do about the hereteks.
Sorry, loser. GW is only allowed to introduce new vehicle models by saying another STC was found that happened to include blueprints for a new tracked troop transport.
Letting the guard have some toys should be the least of any lore nerd's concerns.
Sorry, loser. GW is only allowed to introduce new vehicle models by saying another STC was found that happened to include blueprints for a new tracked troop transport.
Letting the guard have some toys should be the least of any lore nerd's concerns.
Or... and I don't know why he didn't consider this... an STC was found and just wasn't talked about because getting the vehicles into production was more important than having grand proclamations about finding an STC. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence or whatever.
Or... and I don't know why he didn't consider this... an STC was found and just wasn't talked about because getting the vehicles into production was more important than having grand proclamations about finding an STC. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence or whatever.
To be fair, I don't think every new unit needs some exhaustive lore blurb to justify itself existing.
I don't need background on why the Krieg have cavalry or whatever, of course they do.
Unless it's shaking up the vibe, it probably doesn't need some deep lore explanation. Save those got major faction updates or new shiny stuff that deserves a spotlight.
Like, some basic lore, sure. But not a focus on how its 'new' or whatever.
To be fair, I don't think every new unit needs some exhaustive lore blurb to justify itself existing.
I don't need background on why the Krieg have cavalry or whatever, of course they do.
Unless it's shaking up the vibe, it probably doesn't need some deep lore explanation. Save those got major faction updates or new shiny stuff that deserves a spotlight.
Like, some basic lore, sure. But not a focus on how its 'new' or whatever.
Oh for sure. And a guard IFV is a hell of a lot less impactful to the overall lore than most of the other shit GW has been doing for decades. Which makes it even funnier that this is what set him off, and he even shows how it wasn't the first time they did it with an IFV.
It's almost like people hear that bit about the guy that found an STC for a knife and got awarded governorship of a planet or whatever, and assume that and even bigger deal must be made about everything else. When in reality the knife STC bit just serves to show how goofy the setting is.
This is the same setting after all, where a hive gang has al almost fully functional STC rather than just programs for one, and somehow nobody has noticed.
It's almost like people hear that bit about the guy that found an STC for a knife and got awarded governorship of a planet or whatever, and assume that and even bigger deal must be made about everything else. When in reality the knife STC bit just serves to show how goofy the setting is.
To be fair, it was presented as goofy in universe and as literal in universe propaganda the same way you sometimes hear about how they're gonna totally let long serving guardsmen retire to some agriworld with their 40 acres and a mule or whatever the hell.
To be fair, it was presented as goofy in universe and as literal in universe propaganda the same way you sometimes hear about how they're gonna totally let long serving guardsmen retire to some agriworld with their 40 acres and a mule or whatever the hell.
Of course. Anyone hearing that would immediately want to hand over an STC if they found one. But still, not everything needs a paragraph detailing the date and planet on which the STC was found.
Of course. Anyone hearing that would immediately want to hand over an STC if they found one. But still, not everything needs a paragraph detailing the date and planet on which the STC was found.
Agreed, save the lore for stuff that needs it instead of getting bogged down.
Though I actually do enjoy some of the theological debates we get between admech characters in stuff like Mechanicum (obv) and elsewhere. The constant logical hoops a techpriest will jump through to justify how something new they can take credit for isn't 'new' new is great.
I'd love some more books in the style of Priests of Mars totally focused in on the admech again. Or more about the Assassinorum members who are fucking about scrap code and literal hacking to get at dark mechanicus targets.
Thank you for sharing this. I read it over last week and the weekend.
I quite enjoyed it. It's a relatively short book with a small cast of characters. Perhaps a strange comparison but it reminded me of the first Elric of Melnibone (chronologically). It has the same weird towers and focus on swords.
One thing I enjoyed about Black Crusade is that Chaos Space Marines are not the rulers of the planets outside of Ghelp (and even there, it is only half of the planet)
Chaos is 99% Space Marines in novels and campaigns, so it is refreshing to see planets ruled by Sorcerers (Q'Sal and the Whriting World), regular humans (Ragged Helix and Messia), Daemons (The Crucible), or just no ruler at all (Furia, Flaming Tomb)
But this, this is now his line in the sand, a couple of IFVs for guard is what has him complaining about canon and dropping specific dates in modern lore(this has been happening for years).
It seems his whole issue with the new vehicles revolves entirely around the way GW is inserting them into the setting. He likes when they give some passing note about how new models are in universe new discoveries, inventions, or things that were always around but very rare until recently. But now GW simply isn't bothering to justify why we didn't see new models in older lore when they should have been present for previous events.
The issue with his complaining, at the most basic level, is that he doesn't realize just how responsible he and other lore-tubers are for making GW think not even trying was an acceptable option.
I turned off the video once he dropped the "canonicity is not a thing in 40k" line. He makes a point in saying that the phrase is supposed to mean that you engage with the concept of the setting and not be silly with it. But that attitude is just vibe worldbuilding. It's adding something in and instead of thinking about ramifications, just shrugging because it feels like it would fit without putting in any actual legwork to make your setting consistent or logical.
What he advocates for is exactly what GW is doing with these new vehicles.
GW throws them into the setting because they look like guard vehicles, don't bother to give any explanation as to their origins, and hand wave away any questions about them.
Why does Luetin think that the origin of these vehicles matters when "canonicity isn't a thing in 40k"? Why isn't it enough to see that the vehicles fit the vibes of IG and just assume they came from some forge world or something? Why is this any worse than the previous ret-cons? How does Luetin not see how his very attitude leads to this shit happening?
(These are rhetorical questions. The answer is because he's a shill and a hack.)
But it should be no surprise that GW stopped caring about fitting new additions into the setting when the loudest and most prominent voices in the lore sphere will actively tell-off anybody who demands some level of consistency. "Vibe worldbuilding is great and awesome and how dare you not like it no wait GW you're doing it wrong."
Fuck these youtubers man. It's all so tiresome.
Side note, Luetin says that people who take his "no canon" line as meaning that there is no canon aren't sincerely engaging with his point, then not ten seconds later says that yes he does mean there's no canon but only kinda. That probably made me want to write this rant more than anything else.
