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Adjective_Noun said:
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I need some help.

Started painting them back when ash waste box came out and stopped after doing the first layer of paint on most of them. Decided to paint them up now that I'm playing a bunch of necromunda but the color scheme that I had going just isn't doing it for me, don't plan on stripping them since this is a layer of primer and some speedpaint so it should be thin enough to cover with regular paint without loosing detail.


TLDR I need Ideas on what colors to use on my discount tusken raiders
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Could break up the yellow with a cammo print style using a gray?
 
Adjective_Noun said:
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I need some help.

Started painting them back when ash waste box came out and stopped after doing the first layer of paint on most of them. Decided to paint them up now that I'm playing a bunch of necromunda but the color scheme that I had going just isn't doing it for me, don't plan on stripping them since this is a layer of primer and some speedpaint so it should be thin enough to cover with regular paint without loosing detail.


TLDR I need Ideas on what colors to use on my discount tusken raiders
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They actually look pretty good, albeit a bit desaturated.

I really like the yellow. Maybe make the browns of the leather pop a bit more and bring out the greens a little more. @Failed Lurker had a good idea with the camo, too. Yellow is usually attention-grabbing but you have it in a more sedate form, so your details and highlights should be everything except the yellow as that is your effective neutral point.

But I really like that yellow... but you don't which is what matters. Maybe more details added to the boots and bags and equipment would solve your problem?

I'm new. :lol:
 
Failed Lurker said:
Could break up the yellow with a cammo print style using a gray?
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You telling me to use the classics ?

Salamanders_Original_Colours.png

In all seriousness I will probably commit to the scheme I've got going on at least one model, don't know about the grey camo pattern because I'm not even sure what pattern are we talking about: squiggles like on that salamander, splotches like on a Cadian urban fighter or a digital pattern like the contemporary US military stuff and in any of those cases I have trouble imagining grey patterns on the lemony yellow color I have going on.

If I remember right the original plan was to have dull colors covered in gray dust but I can not remember if I planned on using any washes.

Then there is the matter of the "sky mantle" that is the green thing on his back I wanted to torture myself while working on my freehand skills and paint a gang sign on the back of them and never came up with one so current choice is between some bug maybe a close up of a bug head that they ride on and something storm related, I'm leaning towards option two because the nomads have loads of weapons that have a shock keyword and a bug riding "definitely not psychic" shaman that calls down lightning and changes the weather by summoning sand storms, the issue I have with a storm themed symbol is that unless I draw something overly detailed it is going to turn out painfully generic.

ash waste shaman.jpg

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This is the only canonical symbol that the nomads have and I am fairly certain that this one is not even chosen by them since it is used by hive dwellers to designate an area of the desert where the nomads are known to raid
TheDarknessGrows said:
They actually look pretty good, albeit a bit desaturated.

I really like the yellow. Maybe make the browns of the leather pop a bit more and bring out the greens a little more. @Failed Lurker had a good idea with the camo, too. Yellow is usually attention-grabbing but you have it in a more sedate form, so your details and highlights should be everything except the yellow as that is your effective neutral point.

But I really like that yellow... but you don't which is what matters. Maybe more details added to the boots and bags and equipment would solve your problem?

I'm new. :lol:
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If you are curious the color looks so desaturated is because I at the time was experimenting with "speedpaints" which are a sort of high opacity wash in a way similar to "Agrax Earthshade" or "Nuln Oil" or any of the other shades that GW and others make the difference being that it stains the material bellow it to a much higher degree while also still pooling in recesses giving you a decent looking model without putting in to much effort or time or if you are like me and can't leave things be they give you a base-coat of paint in a single pass from where you can start building up details.

I may have explained it like shit but I hope that it is still understandable and is also new information and not me explaining something poorly to someone who already heard all of this stuff.
 
Just to add to that info is that the newer shade formulas, including Nuln Oil and Agrax are much less stainier and just as "pooly", they fixed the issue of how they would just coat the model in such a way you would have to repaint everything that didn't need the filter.
Not that it matters, you should not be paying premium money on Citadel in Current Year and its deluge of better alternatives.
 
Adjective_Noun said:
If you are curious the color looks so desaturated is because I at the time was experimenting with "speedpaints" which are a sort of high opacity wash in a way similar to "Agrax Earthshade" or "Nuln Oil" or any of the other shades that GW and others make the difference being that it stains the material bellow it to a much higher degree while also still pooling in recesses giving you a decent looking model without putting in to much effort or time or if you are like me and can't leave things be they give you a base-coat of paint in a single pass from where you can start building up details.

I may have explained it like shit but I hope that it is still understandable and is also new information and not me explaining something poorly to someone who already heard all of this stuff.
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augment said:
Just to add to that info is that the newer shade formulas, including Nuln Oil and Agrax are much less stainier and just as "pooly", they fixed the issue of how they would just coat the model in such a way you would have to repaint everything that didn't need the filter.
Not that it matters, you should not be paying premium money on Citadel in Current Year and its deluge of better alternatives.
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This stuff is great I am learning a bunch from all your guys' posts. Thanks!
 
Alter Ego said:
A story reserved for at least a decade down the road. Leman Russ will obviously be the next loyalist primarch to return, and even with him aside, there are still plenty of other priorities over the Khan. Both the Imperial Fists and Salamanders are much more popular than White Scars, and I can even imagine GW coming up with some way for Sanguinius to return before the Khan.
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Vulkan would be a far less far-fetched choice of next returning Primarch. Vulkan is canonically locked to still be alive and didn't jump off a diving board into the Eye of Terror like Leman Russ did. This would also mean Leman ditching his quest to find the Tree of Life in the Warp. Didn't Leman also specifically say he was going to the Warp because he was dying somehow and the Warp is timeless and would thus keep him alive?
 
Would any of you kind Kiwis help me with an army list?

I’m trying to get some armies for friends for X-mas, and I know there’s a few armies where you can still get 2k points or so for around $500.

I can print the armies for them, but I want them to have a tournament legal army. I’ll just print proxies to double the size of it for them.

Ideally I’d like to use one of the current $160 starter squads as a basis as I can get a good deal on them.

I’d even pay for your time if needed :)
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
Same thing goes for the Forerunner Trilogy. I've got no problems with Greg Bear, and his Forerunner books are good sci-fi works on their own when taken out of the context of Halo, but his trilogy just de-mystified the Forerunners. Remember how people reacted to George Lucas introducing the midichlorians and how it "de-mystified" the Force? The Horus Heresy books and the Forerunner Trilogy did the same to the Horus Heresy and the Forerunner race.
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I disagree about the Horus Heresy but I would agree if we were to say the same thing about Necrons. The Necrons used to be an enigmatic, eldritch force of anti-nature that spelled death for anyone unfortunate enough to happen upon them. Then they were given dialog, and goals, and motives and now they're just the race of pompous douchebags with middle-management vibes. Observe.
 
Dieter Laser said:
Would any of you kind Kiwis help me with an army list?

I’m trying to get some armies for friends for X-mas, and I know there’s a few armies where you can still get 2k points or so for around $500.

I can print the armies for them, but I want them to have a tournament legal army. I’ll just print proxies to double the size of it for them.

Ideally I’d like to use one of the current $160 starter squads as a basis as I can get a good deal on them.

I’d even pay for your time if needed :)
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Well, I guess 1st question is what army you wanna run, from there its much easier to pick the best troops for it.
 
The tired cat said:
Well, I guess 1st question is what army you wanna run, from there its much easier to pick the best troops for it.
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I’d like to perhaps pull it off with space marines?

Orks would be ideal but keeping it under the price limit would be hard. And marines at least can be different chapters so it’s not as bad if I get them identical gifts.
 
Dieter Laser said:
I’d like to perhaps pull it off with space marines?

Orks would be ideal but keeping it under the price limit would be hard. And marines at least can be different chapters so it’s not as bad if I get them identical gifts.
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Well with orks your best bet would be the Chirstmas box set which is like 350$ and maybe like one Trukk to get the boyz faster. Since the current box is gonna be all Beast Snaggaz. However, SpaceMarine wise...well you can grab a Combat Patrol box ( just as example Dark Angels), Lion boi himself, some Primaris boxes and mayhaps some bikes or another leader for the group.
 
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
I disagree about the Horus Heresy but I would agree if we were to say the same thing about Necrons. The Necrons used to be an enigmatic, eldritch force of anti-nature that spelled death for anyone unfortunate enough to happen upon them. Then they were given dialog, and goals, and motives and now they're just the race of pompous douchebags with middle-management vibes. Observe.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DkISLldNm5w:53https://youtube.com/watch?v=R36beG080K4:18
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So basically, an enigmatic, mysterious version of Skynet got reduced into Space Egyptians that are about as human as Billy Bob from down the street, who talk like your bogstandard villain types. Classic, GW. Classic. Way to kill the mystique for a faction there.

NerdShamer said:
Isn't that roughly half of the 40k factions?
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Exactly. The Necrons not being like that before made them different. Then they got made into the same crap as the other factions; humans in another skin. The Orks are football hooligans, the Eldar are pompous nitwits left over from a faction that once ruled the world, the Tau are naive newcomers, the Imperium humans are superstitious numbnuts. The Necrons being an unknowable race which exuded fear set them apart.
 
MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
The Necrons used to be an enigmatic, eldritch force of anti-nature that spelled death for anyone unfortunate enough to happen upon them.
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What eldritch force? The necrons were just your typical Terminator knock offs, for fuck sake even one of their strategems was a nod to the Terminator franchise. There wasn't anything enigmatic about them, they were just killer robots and that's about it.
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
That was something they shared with the Tyranids, until they became Space Egyptians.

Which really wouldn't surprise me, if one day GW gave Tyranid Hive Tyrants and Carnifexes their own personalities and rival hive fleets to show conflict within the Hive Mind.
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So, basically the Necrons didnt have any personality and were just bland Terminators knock offs....and thats somehow good?
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
No, they were an unknowable, unfeeling, inhuman enemy whose logic and calculus were beyond human means. Then they became bland space Egyptian knockoffs.
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They werent any of that, they were just typical Terminator knock offs that wanted to eridicate life, they were pretty much a typical.Saturday morning cartoon level bitch badguy.
 
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