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Meat Target said:
I wish they sold bomb squigs separately. I lost the one that came with my kommandos. Little bastard was a pain to paint.
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*cries in Obliterator* Thank fuck for my 3D printer. I don't understand the logic of two Obliterators being boxed with the Venomcrawler when a full squad nets you three Obliterators.

Check on Etsy. Just glancing at it I saw three or four different models for a fuckton cheaper than GW.
 
Male Idiot said:
Stls are autistic and I would rather pay GW than patreon.

That said, forgeworld resin is shit too.

If I ever used 3d printing, I would pirate the stls. Best for now is just buying used GW and restoring it.
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the average patreon is 10 bucks for a load of models you can print how often you want. it's not breaking the bank, and I rather give some random creator a fair amount of money than anything to some asshole of a corp trying to fleece me.
part of the price is also quality and support - they will be able to be printed outright, no need to spend hours supporting or looking for holes and other issues that could fuck up your print. plus digital kitbashing instead of busting out the tools and green stuff.

this is what you get for $9 each month:
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only issue I'd have is that since it's digitally created, quite a few patreons go way off the deep end with details you'll never see or even need on the final model, but looks good when rendered. KISS is general great guideline to follow (even artisan guild is slowly creeping in that direction now it seems).

Male Idiot said:
Only 1-1 non proxy models would interest me, and even then only when they are either monopose or tanks.

I hate working with resin and mich prefer plastic. Hopefully cheap plaszic prints aren't physically impossible in the coming decades.
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only if you figure out a way to make a cheap molds, so not gonna happen.

closest you'll see something happening is 3d inkjet and powder bed, but those are still limited to the professional space and will be for a long time (3d printing itself only made a big leap because certain patents ran out). otoh they allow you to print in color, if you're willing to spend a nice $100k+ on a mikami. plus their own resin and ink of course.

Love Machine said:
I am so fucking sick of people who hear the word "simplified" in regards to rules and say "wow casual". WHY DO I HAVE TO SHARE THIS FUCKING HOBBY WITH SUCH MOUTH BREATHING FUCKING RETARDS. AHHHHHHH YOU NEED TO BRING 5 BOOKS TO PLAY A GAME WITH BLOOD ANGELS YOU FUCKING RETARDS.
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point out that they were the casuals all along
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I am getting back into the hobby as I fucking adore Warhammer lore and I read 9th and wanted to die. I tried Sigma and it was OK but did not scratch the space opera itch. I am cautiously optimistic with 10th and I hope nids don't get fucked over since I want to play them as my second faction. I am so torn on my main faction Sisters of Battle or Tao just because Aesthetically they are both really unique but there is only so much time in the world.
 
If I want bootleg shit, I ain't paying 9 dollars for it. I am getting it for free yarrr!

Commander X said:
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Doesn't Chaos have daemon primarchs outnumbering loyalists?
Horus and Curze and maybe Alpharius are dead (or at least not a demon), but there is Angron, Fulgrim, Magnus, Mortarion, Perturabo, Lorgar, which is 6. 6 on 2 isn't that bad a deal.
 
Male Idiot said:
If I want bootleg shit, I ain't paying 9 dollars for it. I am getting it for free yarrr!



Doesn't Chaos have daemon primarchs outnumbering loyalists?
Horus and Curze and maybe Alpharius are dead (or at least not a demon), but there is Angron, Fulgrim, Magnus, Mortarion, Perturabo, Lorgar, which is 6. 6 on 2 isn't that bad a deal.
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Isn't it 7? Last I heard, Abaddon is still alive.
 
Meat Target said:
Isn't it 7? Last I heard, Abaddon is still alive.
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There's only the current three (Mortarion, Angron, Magnus) actually doing anything of note in realspace while the others are still coping and sneeding in the warp pretty much all the time.

Abbadon isn't even close to a Primarch's level, he's just a quirked up white boy goated with chaos sauce.
 
Penne Dreadful said:
Despite being the biggest Mary Sue in the setting, Abaddon isn't actually a Primarch.
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Male Idiot said:
Abby isn't a primarch, though he maybe as strong as one with all the Chaos power and big evil sword.
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Oh, duh. I'm stupid. I knew that. I was thinking that because he's technically Horus' successor, being the Warmaster of the Black Legion.
 
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BrainProlapse said:
There's only the current three (Mortarion, Angron, Magnus) actually doing anything of note in realspace while the others are still coping and sneeding in the warp pretty much all the time.

Abbadon isn't even close to a Primarch's level, he's just a quirked up white boy goated with chaos sauce.
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Fulgrim is only back in hiding now after Rylanor sacrificed himself with a virus bomb on Istvaan III to fuck with his former primarch. Perturabo just had a fight with Mortarion in real space over a planet and only lost due to Nurgle virus bullshit starting to kill his troop. Lorgar has supposedly been spotted in real space, but until they actually write him doing something, it's just GW being full of shit and he's still being lazy in the warp.
 
StevieLasVegas said:
Before or after ADB got his mitts on them?
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Specifically after ADB. The whole self insert thousand son wizard with his "author's barely disguised fetish" of a sexy bird lady chained to his will or whatever.

Guilliman, who I love and adore, was never considered above maybe 13th in terms of fighting ability for Primarchs. Yet Guilliman was able to dispatch, with effort and close calls, a dozen Alpha Legion astartes in full plate while wearing a toga AND they had the element of surprise as they were masquerading as Aeonid Thiels goon squad.

Now Abaddon was a superlative fighter during the crusade but as seen in Saturnine he was almost defeated. Yes it took some Mary Sue wankery of the Riven Hound and the Blood Angel I can't remember dying and pinning him to a wall just so that Garro could almost finish him prior to teleportation but that was astartes on astartes.

The idea that Abbadon in a one on one with a naked Horus would win is bullshit. I dunno it's just gay to me. Cloning is gay but Abaddon wankery is worse.

My back of the napkin primarch fighting ranks in descending order *not scientific nor is there a real difference in the top seven* Kurze, Horus, Vulkan, Angron, Russ, Sanguinis, the Lion, the Khan, Mortarian, Fulgrim, Ferrus, Dorn, Perturabo, Corax, Guilliman, Alpharius, Magnus, Lorgar,
 
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