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As for all the discussion for the horus heresy.
My Tl;DR on the discussion is that there are more mediocre to bad books then good, but the good books are bangers.
There are legions that score and have awesome stories like the white scars, then there are the... salamanders.
Dont take the canon too seriously because the writers obviously dont.
Just pick and choose what you like.

For lorelets that just want to get through the heresy while trimming the fat and the shlock, my reading list is
Horus Rising to Mechanicum, Fallen Angels to Prospero burns, Deliverance Lost to Fear To Tread, Angel Exterminatus to Vengeful Spirit, Pharos, Path Of Heaven, Silent War, Angels of Caliban, Praetorian of Dorn, The Master of Mankind(you will hate this or love this), The Crimson King, Tallarn, Wolfsbane, Slaves to Darkness, Titandeath, The Buried Dagger.
This is actually super helpful, thanks a lot.

I got into reading more to do with 40k lore from watching Baldermort’s videos (loved his ork ones), and have really enjoyed reading Abnett’s Inquisitor and Ravenor series (just finished all the The Magos shorts). So when I see all the HH books I think to myself, “hey, these look pretty goo… oh fuck there’s like 4 dozen of them”. This helps me cut through the dross!
 
This is actually super helpful, thanks a lot.

I got into reading more to do with 40k lore from watching Baldermort’s videos (loved his ork ones), and have really enjoyed reading Abnett’s Inquisitor and Ravenor series (just finished all the The Magos shorts). So when I see all the HH books I think to myself, “hey, these look pretty goo… oh fuck there’s like 4 dozen of them”. This helps me cut through the dross!
There is still dross in there, but its semi required for the overall narrative.
Dont need you coming to me in a couple weeks say "Bro why the fuck was Vulcan Lives on the list?"
The general rule is the HH just gets really shoddy mid 20s onward. Though again, still some bangers in there.
 
There is still dross in there, but its semi required for the overall narrative.
Dont need you coming to me in a couple weeks say "Bro why the fuck was Vulcan Lives on the list?"
The general rule is the HH just gets really shoddy mid 20s onward. Though again, still some bangers in there.
I honestly don’t know how Black Library allowed the HH saga to get so bloated. Do they honestly think anybody but the slimmest minority will read all 50-odd books? I like 40K, and would definitely read fifty 40K books, but if somebody told me they were all in the same saga — and therefore all important and required reading — I would stay the fuck away.
 
I honestly don’t know how Black Library allowed the HH saga to get so bloated. Do they honestly think anybody but the slimmest minority will read all 50-odd books? I like 40K, and would definitely read fifty 40K books, but if somebody told me they were all in the same saga — and therefore all important and required reading — I would stay the fuck away.
Well anyone who said every book is required is fucking with you
AT MOST, half those books arent even close to being required.
 
I honestly don’t know how Black Library allowed the HH saga to get so bloated. Do they honestly think anybody but the slimmest minority will read all 50-odd books? I like 40K, and would definitely read fifty 40K books, but if somebody told me they were all in the same saga — and therefore all important and required reading — I would stay the fuck away.
I kinda think the HH should of been just a overall grouping instead of trying to make it one series. Based on how the first 3 books played out I'd argue that the whole thing should of been separate trilogies for each primarch and legion and a few stand alone books that cover a specific individual or event because lets be honest some primarchs/legions aren't that interesting and are entirely skippable (looking at you Manus).
 
I honestly don’t know how Black Library allowed the HH saga to get so bloated. Do they honestly think anybody but the slimmest minority will read all 50-odd books? I like 40K, and would definitely read fifty 40K books, but if somebody told me they were all in the same saga — and therefore all important and required reading — I would stay the fuck away.
The audiobook collection makes it a tolerable background task just saying.
 
I kinda think the HH should of been just a overall grouping instead of trying to make it one series. Based on how the first 3 books played out I'd argue that the whole thing should of been separate trilogies for each primarch and legion and a few stand alone books that cover a specific individual or event because lets be honest some primarchs/legions aren't that interesting and are entirely skippable (looking at you Manus).
I fucking hate Angron it absolutely saddens me that lack any teased loyalist descendents. That legion bent over backwards for that baby and they still get fucked.

Compare this to say the Iron Warriors. Many high ranking guys clearly didn’t like pert and when givena chance to split they did we have the Silver skulls, Minotaurs, maybe even marines malevolent?
 
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I fucking hate Angron it absolutely saddens me that lack any teased loyalist descendents. That legion bent over backwards for that baby and they still get fucked.

Compare this to say the Iron Warriors. Many high ranking guys clearly didn’t like pert and when givena chance to split they did we have the Silver skulls, Minotaurs, maybe even marines malevolent?
I like the idea of the MM being loyalist IW, because they're quite similar in outlook. I've heard they're actually loyalist Death Guard though, which doesn't make as much sense since the MM lack the stoicism of the Death Guard.

The Marines Malevolent still be my favorite Imperial Chapter, though.
 
The one from audiobookbay was every single book, complete.

I don’t have it on a public share atm but I could probably upload it if you’re interested. Just gotta find it.
Yeah, if you don’t mind, I’m on an audiobook kick and would love that. Thanks!
 
It's very very rare, but yes. There were a
couple of Word Bearers who became disillusioned with Lorgar and Chaos and returned to worshiping the Emperor, though that was during the Heresy and not after ten thousand years of marinating in the warp.
The only two Word Bearers I know that have some semblance of loyalty to The Emperor are Barthusa Narek (who correctly ascertains that worst thing to happen to the XVII Legion was being reunited with Lorgar, thus wants to kill Lorgar for taking the legion down the path of damnation) and The Anchorite, a Word Bearer Contemptor Dreadnought who rejected the teachings of Lorgar and embraced the worship of the God-Emperor. Apparently, The Anchorite surrendered during the Horus Heresy (Guilliman surprisingly spared him) and has been serving penance in solitary confinement. He did, however, fight alongside Imperium forces in the 41st Millennium when the Word Bearers invaded his prison world in order to bring The Anchorite back to Sicarus. During the battle, The Anchorite slew many of his former brothers before returning to self-confinement.
 
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The only two Word Bearers I know that have some semblance of loyalty to The Emperor are Barthusa Narek (who correctly ascertains that worst thing to happen to the XVII Legion was being reunited with Lorgar, thus wants to kill Lorgar for taking the legion down the ppath of damnation) and The Anchorite, a Word Bearer Contemptor Dreadnought who rejected the teachings of Lorgar and embraced the worship of the God-Emperor. Apparently, The Anchorite surrendered during the Horus Heresy (Guilliman surprisingly spared him) and has been serving penance in solitary confinement. He did, however, fight alongside Imperium forces in the 41st Millennium when the Word Bearers invaded his prison world in order to bring The Anchorite back to Sicarus. During the battle, The Anchorite slew many of his former brothers before returning to self-confinement.
Yeah, those are the two I meant. I'd like to see them do more with the Anchorite, tbh. He's an interesting character.
 
Next week's pre-orders are nuts. Get ready for the wallet rape guys
 
It's just the HH stuff isn't it?

Do we know the price of the HH box? Valrak, inbetween doing his best Nikocado Avocado impersonation, suggested it was going to be 570 AUD for those poor bastards down under. That's the equivalent of $399 USD, and there's just no way.
$260~usd for the box
The deimos, sicaran, and Kratos
All primarchs restocked
Mark 3 and 4 restocked
Legion transfers and dice restocked
And the rule books for traitor and loyalist legions
 
I have a super dumb idea for the box set, since I'm gonna use it for 40k. There's an 'unlimited' Apoc Game in August that I'm going to, and I'm thinking of converting all 40 of those tactical marines into Devastators with Lascannons. They don't put any restrictions on how many of a unit you can take, so some people get super crazy.

Without using the cherubs, there's a maximum damage output of 240 wounds which should be able to melt a Warlord with damage to spare. It'd be highly improbable to get that, but it'd be pretty funny, and I wonder if those squads would also help pull focus away from my bigger units.
 
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