Warcraft III: Refunded General - How one company managed to mess up a remaster of a 17 year old game.

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It's done! Those of you who have the will to save this company, follow me. The rest of you... get out of my office.
 
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imagine sucking corporate cock so much that you think pointing out a game is bad is review bombing
 
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אΩ+1 said:
and the only cinematic that has changed is the cinematic showed at blizzcon the rest are upscaled versions of old cutscenes.
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you make it sound like thats a bad thing.
 
Here's a grown man with two children posting a bunch of autism about a fantasy RTS.

Warcraft III is one of my all time favourite games, so I dug out my old Warcraft III discs and installed them to check it out because I heard you can upgrade to the new client for free minus the new graphics if you already own the original.

I Tried to connect to Battle Net through the regular Frozen Throne icon on my desktop, couldn't do it. Turns out I had to download some other Warcraft III client from Blizzard. The new client does not uninstall my installs from the disc, so I can still play the campaign or over lan through the original game client if I like. I had install a 30 gig update upon downloading the new client. I couldn't play regular random games, but I could join custom games. When I tried to make a custom game, it didn't work and only one slot was open, and I'd get this map not found error. That new menu/multiplayer interface somehow less intuitive than the original and I don't know where anything is and it doesn't work half the time. When you leave or join a custom game, the text saying you left or joined or were booted overlaps with other UI elements and text in the bottom right hand corner of the screen. In the game itself whenever someone left is would say "User has left the game" followed by "Blizzard has left the game".

I restarted my computer and then I could do random games. Once you get in a game it's pretty well the same as it always was. At the end of the day if you have the original game, they've moved you to a multiplayer client that doesn't work as well and are charging $30 for new models/textures.

I don't think Blizzard is obligated to still provide servers for a 18 year old game in perpetuity, so it's kind of cool that I'm even still able to play multiplayer with a couple of discs I bought so long ago that they'd be finished high school by now. Plus, if you don't already have Warcraft III, I think it is worth $30 if the bugs all get fixed. However, the new menus and stuff are a bug riddled shitshow. Honest to god, how do you fuck up the interface this badly?

The original game was still totally worth $20-$30 if the multiplayer scene was active. They could have just stuck the original game up on GOG like they have with Diablo and Warcraft 2 Bnet Edition and then anyone who cared enough could have forwarded a couple of ports to play multiplayer on the original Battle.net client. The games were peer to peer once the connection is made through Bnet, so the server costs were virtually nill. They would have generated a bunch of sales from the excitment of the game coming to GOG and they wouldn't have had to spend anything developing new models or a new client that everyone hates anyway. I just don't understand the point of all this.

The original has lan play and pushes very little data because it was designed to work on dial up. If somone just set up a VPN on a cheap VPS and sold accounts to function as a Warcraft III multiplayer hub to get around Blizzard's bullshit, it'd be better than dealing with the new multiplayer client, but I don't know that anyone cares enough about Warcraft III to do that in the year of our lord 2020.
 
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LolRaccoon said:
The thing that makes me upset the most is that I can't play the original anymore. Fucking hell, Blizzard.
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Never Scored said:
Here's a grown man with two children posting a bunch of autism about a fantasy RTS.

Warcraft III is one of my all time favourite games, so I dug out my old Warcraft III discs and installed them to check it out because I heard you can upgrade to the new client for free minus the new graphics if you already own the original.

I Tried to connect to Battle Net through the regular Frozen Throne icon on my desktop, couldn't do it. Turns out I had to download some other Warcraft III client from Blizzard. The new client does not uninstall my installs from the disc, so I can still play the campaign or over lan through the original game client if I like. I had install a 30 gig update upon downloading the new client. I couldn't play regular random games, but I could join custom games. When I tried to make a custom game, it didn't work and only one slot was open, and I'd get this map not found error. That new menu/multiplayer interface somehow less intuitive than the original and I don't know where anything is and it doesn't work half the time. When you leave or join a custom game, the text saying you left or joined or were booted overlaps with other UI elements and text in the bottom right hand corner of the screen. In the game itself whenever someone left is would say "User has left the game" followed by "Blizzard has left the game".

I restarted my computer and then I could do random games. Once you get in a game it's pretty well the same as it always was. At the end of the day if you have the original game, they've moved you to a multiplayer client that doesn't work as well and are charging $30 for new models/textures.

I don't think Blizzard is obligated to still provide servers for a 18 year old game in perpetuity, so it's kind of cool that I'm even still able to play multiplayer with a couple of discs I bought so long ago that they'd be finished high school by now. Plus, if you don't already have Warcraft III, I think it is worth $30 if the bugs all get fixed. However, the new menus and stuff are a bug riddled shitshow. Honest to god, how do you fuck up the interface this badly?

The original game was still totally worth $20-$30 if the multiplayer scene was active. They could have just stuck the original game up on GOG like they have with Diablo and Warcraft 2 Bnet Edition and then anyone who cared enough could have forwarded a couple of ports to play multiplayer on the original Battle.net client. The games were peer to peer once the connection is made through Bnet, so the server costs were virtually nill. They would have generated a bunch of sales from the excitment of the game coming to GOG and they wouldn't have had to spend anything developing new models or a new client that everyone hates anyway. I just don't understand the point of all this.

The original has lan play and pushes very little data because it was designed to work on dial up. If somone just set up a VPN on a cheap VPS and sold accounts to function as a Warcraft III multiplayer hub to get around Blizzard's bullshit, it'd be better than dealing with the new multiplayer client, but I don't know that anyone cares enough about Warcraft III to do that in the year of our lord 2020.
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I just used my discs to install the game, can use bin files too from a torrent site of your choice and then manually install the patches that dont need the battle.net platform, 1.27 b was the patch of my choice, and then you can surely find a community that use hamachi or gameranger if you want to play with the old patch without forced update, or just to play the campaign.
 
Yeah, I can still play the campign fine. I guess my shit was too old even for the forced update. The two original icons are on my desktop are just there alongside the new one and they still open the original game. Clicking "Battle.net" just opens an "Update Successful" prompt, then Warcraft III closes, then I get a windows promt that says Warcraft III is already running.
 
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Yeah, I can still play the campign fine. I guess my shit was too old even for the forced update. The two original icons are on my desktop are just there alongside the new one and they still open the original game. Clicking "Battle.net" just opens an "Update Successful" prompt, then Warcraft III closes, then I get a windows promt that says Warcraft III is already running.
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Just download the patch yourself and run it in administrator mode.
 
Naw fuck that. I have the original client and new client both working on my computer at the same time. I'm not going to fuck around with it. I'm not going to have time to play much multiplayer anyway.
 
Trashfire Garbagefuck said:
I'm so glad I haven't given a fuck about blizzard since lost vikings 1. If this happened to a game I cared about as much as people care about Warcraft III, I would be legit angry.
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It will happen to whatever game or game company you currently like. It's inevitable. The video game industry is being actively pozzed.
 
Oh dear. First Diablo III's infamous Error 37, then them fostering a no-fun-allowed atmosphere in Overwatch and even trying to shut down fanmade porn, then the public ritual suicide that was Diablo (My) Immortal, then them openly cucking to China during the Hong Kong kerfuffle, then the absolute mediocrity that is Overwatch 2 so far, then this abortion of a Warcraft III remake and finally the fact that the upcoming Diablo IV is just like it's predecessor too going to be online only. A fatal mistake is a tragedy. A pattern is idiocy. Anything beyond that is natural selection.

EA is currently, as I'm writing this, working on a remaster of the original Command & Conquer: Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert. If by any miracle of God EA doesn't fuck this up, Blizzard has all the rights and obligations to Kurt Cobain itself. And no, when you fuck up this much you're way past Minecraft. How do you even live with yourself as a company when you go full Hindenburg in a potential scenario where Electronic Fucking Arts is having a redemption arc?

I wish I could go back in time and tell young teenage Fougaro, who was hyped for the Lord of Destruction expansion pack, about the absolute state of 2020 Blizzard just to see the reaction.
 
Fougaro said:
Oh dear. First Diablo III's infamous Error 37, then them fostering a no-fun-allowed atmosphere in Overwatch and even trying to shut down fanmade porn, then the public ritual suicide that was Diablo (My) Immortal, then them openly cucking to China during the Hong Kong kerfuffle, then the absolute mediocrity that is Overwatch 2 so far, then this abortion of a Warcraft III remake and finally the fact that the upcoming Diablo IV is just like it's predecessor too going to be online only. A fatal mistake is a tragedy. A pattern is idiocy. Anything beyond that is natural selection.

EA is currently, as I'm writing this, working on a remaster of the original Command & Conquer: Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert. If by any miracle of God EA doesn't fuck this up, Blizzard has all the rights and obligations to Kurt Cobain itself. And no, when you fuck up this much you're way past Minecraft. How do you even live with yourself as a company when you go full Hindenburg in a potential scenario where Electronic Fucking Arts is having a redemption arc?

I wish I could go back in time and tell young teenage Fougaro, who was hyped for the Lord of Destruction expansion pack, about the absolute state of 2020 Blizzard just to see the reaction.
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I think the Activision merger definitely ruined Blizzard, especially since Activision has also taken the same route of ramming million dollar franchises into the ground. Call of Duty was the biggest game on the Xbox 360, but on the Xbox One it's struggled to remain relevant. Guitar Hero is a dead franchise while Harmonix continues to release Rock Band songs and Clone Hero has managed to become as huge as Stepmania. Spyro and Crashes newest games are remakes and Spyro for years was milked to death with Skylanders (which died out as well). Destiny 2 is no longer an Activision published game now, Bungie owns the rights to it and has moved it to Steam as a f2p game.

Oh and Call of Duty has had multiple remote code execution bugs on the PC version with multiple CVE entries.
 
CIA Nigger said:
I think the Activision merger definitely ruined Blizzard, especially since Activision has also taken the same route of ramming million dollar franchises into the ground. Call of Duty was the biggest game on the Xbox 360, but on the Xbox One it's struggled to remain relevant. Guitar Hero is a dead franchise while Harmonix continues to release Rock Band songs and Clone Hero has managed to become as huge as Stepmania. Spyro and Crashes newest games are remakes and Spyro for years was milked to death with Skylanders (which died out as well). Destiny 2 is no longer an Activision published game now, Bungie owns the rights to it and has moved it to Steam as a f2p game.

Oh and Call of Duty has had multiple remote code execution bugs on the PC version with multiple CVE entries.
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In hindsight I should have known since Starcraft 2 that things would take a darker turn.
 
It's amazing they not only made a shitty remake but completely fucked up the original while they were at it.

The new cutscenes are great. The edited audio together of "Hell" and "Scream" to replace all the instances of "Grom".

Marissa Moira said:
This is so they don't get caught off guard by a DOTA phenomenon again and can actually make money off of it from the get-go.

It probably won't happen but typing user agreements costs nothing.
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It guarantees that they'll never have another dota, though.
 
"You lied to your fans and betrayed the people who bought your games! What's happenin' to you, Blizzard? Is money all that is important to you?" - Muradin Cheetobeard
 
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