Culture WaPo's Apologia for School Library Porn - Oral sex between children isn't sexually explicit; it's a cooming-of-age story

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Call someone a “book banner” and you’ve already almost won the argument. It’s no wonder, then, that Washington Post columnist E.J. Dionne recently advised his fellow liberals to lean into the culture war controversy over what books do and don’t belong in school libraries. He suggests “moving from offense to defense,” by insisting that an “effort to close the minds of the next generation will not make its members stronger.” Against this powerful moral argument, Dionne notes that “the right wing is eager for parents to think that progressives support the equivalent of hardcore porn in school libraries.”

But is the right wing right? A three-thousand-word news article published last week in the Washington Post suggests that the answer depends on your definition of “hardcore porn.”

Reporter Hannah Natanson’s story about Lawn Boy, the second most challenged book of last year, was titled: “A mom wrongly said the book showed pedophilia. School libraries banned it.” To Natanson, the story of the parental backlash against this book “illustrat[es] how misinformation germinates.” She traces how one Virginia mother misread a key passage, believing it to depict oral sex between a ten-year-old and an adult, which helped to spur parental objections across America. But, actually, Natanson explains, the key passage just depicts oral sex between two ten-year-old boys. Pages 19, 91, 174 and 230 relate, as Natanson writes, “how the boys meet in the bushes after a church youth group gathering, touch each other’s penises and progress to oral sex.”

Even the book’s author doesn’t think his book is appropriate for children
. Jonathan Evison told the Post that he never meant for his book to be included in school libraries and said that he thought it was given an award for its appeal to teens because the American Library Association confused it with another children’s book of the same name. “Nobody below a teenager is ready for that book,” Evison told the Post. “It’s got a lot of adult stuff.”

Adult stuff like: (page 44) “‘What if I told you I touched another guy’s dick?’ I said. … ‘What if I told you I sucked it?’ … ‘I was ten years old, but it’s true. I put Doug Goble’s dick in my mouth.’” And (page 73) “All I could think about while he was chatting me up over the rim of his cappuccino was his little salamander between my fourth-grade fingers, rapidly engorging with blood.

Instead of relating any direct quote, Natanson frames her article as a case study in conservative reaction against books depicting racial and sexual minorities. Natanson laments that Lawn Boy is “the quintessential target for the book-banning movement: It is a coming-of-age novel centered on a gay character of color, Mexican American Mike Muñoz.” According to Natanson, the real story isn’t how a book depicting oral sex between ten-year-olds got into school libraries, but rather about “how concerns about public education spread, fueled by conservative media coverage” and how there’s “little room left for nuance or forgiveness in the American political debate.”

A less ideological reporter might have been a bit more forgiving of parents who object to objectively sexually explicit material. Or been more accurate in the nuances she chose to emphasize. The data Natanson collected demonstrated that, contra her narrative, less than a third of book challenges alleged that Lawn Boy depicted pedophilia. Almost every challenge was made on the grounds that the book was “sexually explicit.” Which it certainly is.

Why, exactly, does the education establishment deem sexually explicit content to be appropriate for children? The answer can also be found in the Post article. Even though the author believes that his book is not appropriate for children, he questions the motives of parents who agree with him. He told the Post that these parents, “don’t like a marginalized, non-White, non-cisgender character trying to be comfortable and find their place in the culture. I think the end game of these people is they want to keep the status quo.”

Either that, or they just don’t want their school libraries to carry sexually explicit materials.

It would be interesting to put the sexually explicit passages above, or the infamous picture from the most-challenged Gender Queer depicting a teenager performing oral sex on a strap-on dildo, directly to E.J. Dionne and Hannah Natanson and ask whether they believe them to be age-appropriate for children. To see whether they and their liberal peers would directly defend this content.

But the defense is never direct, and the debate never allowed to be about age-appropriateness. Rather, it is refracted through the prisms of identity politics and partisanship. If a book depicts a racial or sexual minority, then any objection to its content becomes framed as a story of “conservative backlash,” rooted in of racial- or anti-LGBTQ animus. It’s quite sad that liberal pundits and journalists seem more eager to spin narratives of “misinformation,” or accuse their opponents of being “book banners” in order to “own the cons,” than to directly cover or confront parental objections to sexually explicit content. It is, therefore, unfortunately unsurprising that, as the Post reported, when challenged, most public schools decided to keep Lawn Boy fully available.

At the core of the controversy over “book banning” is a growing moral rift between parental common sense and liberal elite opinion. No one wants hardcore porn in school libraries. But one mom’s “hardcore porn” is an activist/pundit/bureaucrat’s social justice imperative.

 
the right wing is eager for parents to think that progressives support the equivalent of hardcore porn in school libraries.

What nonsen-

But, actually, Natanson explains, the key passage just depicts oral sex between two ten-year-old boys. Pages 19, 91, 174 and 230 relate, as Natanson writes, “how the boys meet in the bushes after a church youth group gathering, touch each other’s penises and progress to oral sex.”
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I do legitimately believe that open pedophile acceptance will be pushed starting in late 2023 early 2024 all the signs are there that this is the next big push in progressive circles.
 
Ohh, it's the children performing oral sex on each other. I see. The book was also made by a ten-year-old so nothing pedophilic can be mistakenly derived from that scenario.

Fundie moms are just the worst, always putting their kids' protection and innocence before The Message™
 
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What I got from this article was a pedophile wrote a child sex novel and purposefully titled it the same as a legitimate children's book that came out that year and nobody lynched him.
 
They are severely overestimating the amount of creepy perverts in society that are OK with this.
Even the woke people I know are shocked when I show them what their movement has become.
If this is the hill that hardcore progressives are willing to die on, so be it.
 
Here's the original article.

Opinion Book banning is bad policy. Let’s make it bad politics.

Cons are every bit as likely as libs to mispresent their opponents' arguments, so I wanted to give the other side a fair hearing, but that does not seem to be the case here. If anything, the handwavium engaged in is understated in the OP. Dionne doesn't seem to give a shit about the truth or even what is or is not appropriate for a ten year old to read, but only about the opportunity(?) presented to win elections with books featuring ten years and fellatio, all reframed (somehow) as censorship.

The library card that I signed up for under slightly less than honest circumstances that is supposed to get me past the WaPo paywall has stopped working, sadly, so no original link, but I did find an archive.
 
I wish J6 had happened at WaPo's headquarters.
So a bunch of boomers dressed as vikings could move some stuff around?

I wish what happened to the Tutsi's during the Rawandian genocide would happen to WaPo reporters.

Btw...if a coming of age story with sexually explicit images is allowed then we can allow Playboy magazine with similar images so long they contain so socially relevant story.

My Journey to Female Empowerment: How Porn Made Me A Strong Female

Under the paradigm set forth in the authors article, this story with images of her engaging in sex would be permitted.
 
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Disgusting creeps are uncommon, but there's so many people in the world now that just by statistics alone there's hundreds living near you.

If even 1 in every 100 people (1%) is a disgusting creep, in just the US alone that's 3.3 million disgusting creeps out doing creepy things every day... and working to encourage their creepy lifestyle.

My guess the real number is closer to 10 percent. It's just that smaller percentage of disgusting creeps giving the rest of the disgusting creeps a bad name.
 
What I got from this article was a pedophile wrote a child sex novel and purposefully titled it the same as a legitimate children's book that came out that year and nobody lynched him.
The legitimate children's book is about capitalism. Some kid starts a lawn mowing business that would totally put the Mexican lawn boy out of business. Probably totally intentional on two levels: Stolen Reputation + Reject productivity, embrace beaner coomer.
 
Disgusting creeps are uncommon, but there's so many people in the world now that just by statistics alone there's hundreds living near you.

If even 1 in every 100 people (1%) is a disgusting creep, in just the US alone that's 3.3 million disgusting creeps out doing creepy things every day... and working to encourage their creepy lifestyle.

My guess the real number is closer to 10 percent. It's just that smaller percentage of disgusting creeps giving the rest of the disgusting creeps a bad name.
I think it's more common than we know. It's not a majority, at least I hope not, but it's more than anyone should be comfortable with.
 
I wish these people who write these books would seek Canadian healthcare. Same goes for the guy who wrote the original WaPo article.
 
You have to love their ability and willingness to attempt such overt bullshit word games... and do it so openly.

"_THING_ doesn't happen and here's why it's a good thing that it does, and a crime when people talk about it!"
 
It'd be sad if it wasn't so funny.

"That woman misrepresented the book as including a sex scene between an 10-year old boy and an adult, but actually-- ACKTUALLY-- it was TWO ten year old boys! IT WAS DOUBLE THE KIDS!"
 
I think it's more common than we know. It's not a majority, at least I hope not, but it's more than anyone should be comfortable with.
Personally I think it is rising by the year which is quite alarming. My basis for this belief is that fetishes and the degeneracy associated with them develops through contact with something right, add to that the widespread efforts to de-stigmatize such things in the last decade, and the freaks now running around as missionaries for their hedonism. All of this together creates an environment perfect for disgusting debauchery to prosper and grow.
 
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