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I think people need to look up what grooming is because obviously they can't tell grooming from flirting anymore.
 
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So who are the two people close to the 4 victims?

Definitely Red Bard because of this post and perhaps Hi_Yeena? Both of them had tweeted to each other during this incident particularly with Bard asking Hi_Yeena to message her immediately but the tweet got deleted as reported on here, and both of them having involvement in SJWing the GG Dan sex scandal. Hi_Yeena was also previously posting art to Vinebooru before too

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edit - It was Lichpit asking Hi_Yeena to call her, not Bard.

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Been looking for that screencap of the lichpit/hi_yeena tweet ever since I did my write-up, glad to see someone has it now.
 
Legosi said:
I think people need to look up what grooming is because obviously they can't tell grooming from flirting anymore.
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twitter and tumblr children like to look up psychological terms and render them completely meaningless.

"grooming" has come to mean "someone on the internet flirting with you"
"gaslighting" has come to mean "someone on the internet disagreeing with you"
"triggering" has come to mean "something on the internet made you uncomfortable"
 
GravelAndSyrup said:
twitter and tumblr children like to look up psychological terms and render them completely meaningless.

"grooming" has come to mean "someone on the internet flirting with you"
"gaslighting" has come to mean "someone on the internet disagreeing with you"
"triggering" has come to mean "something on the internet made you uncomfortable"
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You forgot the most important one. "Rape" means "having intercourse with a woman who later changes her mind."
 
johnny johnny yes papa said:
Who knew being an overall good person, helping do fundraisers to raise money for cancer research, and remaining apolitical would make people trust you and they'd be willing you defend you when accusations come out against you? As flimsy as the accusations are if Vinny was an asshole nobody would be defending even though the accusations are obviously bullshit and over exaggerated.
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Gonna rant like an autist here, but this is what annoys me about these situations. People like Buttersluts/Mim, Bard, etc have a stupidly difficult time understanding why his fans want to defend him. They give some very sus evidence, and are confused why people express disbelief. It happens every single time, and they're appalled! Even when there's definitive proof of something going on (whether it be illegal, immoral, or whatever like Ryan Haywood, Adam Kovic or ProJared's dicks being on full display), people defended them.

The whole reacting in shock/anger/disbelief towards someone who disagrees/doesn't believe you is retarded. Wanting to be sure about something, know the full facts, or sitting on the fence about an issue is just how normal humans think. Why can't they wrap their shared braincell around that? On the other hand, I would be pretty annoyed if some glue eater like Kipernicus started raping my twitter notifications going "bullshit! slander! fuck you! false-flagger!" ...especially when I'm one of the chicks whose story actually supports Vinny.

And the seething they do when people mention a lawyer or legal stuff. What else is he supposed to do? Happily admit to everything and get #cancelled? Throw himself to the wolves? Make a sobby youtube apology video? It would be awesome if he could just ignore it and have everything die down, but you have to take allegations like "he gave me an STD knowingly" pretty seriously. If you don't, these retards immediately think it's an admission of guilt.

It's so brain-meltingly infuriating how shallow they are, yet they get off on tweeting shit like "durrr vinesauce's fans are a cult they're so smooth brained why dont they believe me reeee". Have some common sense, you hatchet-face looking cunts.

echteekay said:
I might have deleted the initial post I made about this person a year ago because they weren't relevant enough at the time, but they had a suspended Twitter account claiming that Vinny and Mike were cyberstalking her and sending her messages via their BRB music, along with other "hidden signals" that are akin to what people with schizophrenia experience. There might actually be an archive of a Twitch stream she did on her old account that got a little bit of traction because she called him an abuser and stalker. This person also made threats to send people out to Staten Island to kill him multiple times, which is why we can assume her account got suspended. I really wouldn't give that account a second glance unless they provided something incredibly truthful... which isn't likely.
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There's a lot of shit you could archive from that twitter page:
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https://twitter.com/umbrasalto/status/1378961170246344706 (archive)

She's the epitome of that "all girls do is eat hot chip and lie" phrase.
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I was actually wanting to archive some of her tweets (especially since there's a "he threatened to rape me" one), but the further I scrolled, the more psychotic they became. Attached are a couple which really drive that point home. I'm not archiving them because there's literally like 50 of them and i'm a lazy cunt.

Diggrod said:
Be patient ,will you?
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Oh look, another story confirming that Vinny flirts (sometimes awkwardly), sexts, and has consensual sex with adults. It's weird how that seems to be the majority of experiences that girls have had with him. Almost as if the negative stories are a minority backed up by people who have beef with him making their experiences look worse than they actually were.

Moral Decay said:
I've seen this screenshot multiple times in this thread, and I'm still not sure what relevance a six year old 4chan post has to any of this. What are you trying to illustrate here? And why group Red Bard and Cap/Joowz together?

I feel like this thread is becoming a game of telephone tbh.
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Yeah, seems to be a lot of new accs (ironic coming from me). It's page 244 for the featured post and then read onwards from there before trying to contribute, lest you triple post something everybody already knows. If you just want to throw your two cents in, feel free, just don't be a faggot.
 

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I just listened to the audio from the phone call in the doc and jesus...
When the doc came out and I listened to the first few minutes, I refused to believe that was actually him speaking. I didn't want to believe that he has sex with his fans because like he said, that information getting out can ruin someones career. However, I don't think he really did anything wrong. What he did with these people was completely consensual between two adults, he made it clear that he just wanted a no strings attatched, non-commital kind of thing with these people, and they understood that. Yet, out of complete malice and intent to ruin Vinny's life, they leak out all of this stuff because they were upset he didn't marry them right after.

You can hear Vinny speaking in the call in such as way like he's fearing for his life. Like he feels guilty about what he's doing, and that if this stuff gets out, it could ruin everything he built over the past 11 years. Little did he know that the enitre conversation was being recorded with the intent to use it against him. If the people accusing him had no problem with him, they wouldn't have been recording everything.

I hope he gets back at these people somehow, but I'm not sure if he'll be able to get a defamation case going as people have pointed out, those are particularly hard to prove if your not a A-list celebrity or business owner or whatever. In any case, I hope he's okay and that he comes back to streaming eventually.
 
Mark Knopfler said:
I just listened to the audio from the phone call in the doc and jesus...
When the doc came out and I listened to the first few minutes, I refused to believe that was actually him speaking. I didn't want to believe that he has sex with his fans because like he said, that information getting out can ruin someones career. However, I don't think he really did anything wrong. What he did with these people was completely consensual between two adults, he made it clear that he just wanted a no strings attatched, non-commital kind of thing with these people, and they understood that. Yet, out of complete malice and intent to ruin Vinny's life, they leak out all of this stuff because they were upset he didn't marry them right after.

You can hear Vinny speaking in the call in such as way like he's fearing for his life. Like he feels guilty about what he's doing, and that if this stuff gets out, it could ruin everything he built over the past 11 years. Little did he know that the enitre conversation was being recorded with the intent to use it against him. If the people accusing him had no problem with him, they wouldn't have been recording everything.

I hope he gets back at these people somehow, but I'm not sure if he'll be able to get a defamation case going as people have pointed out, those are particularly hard to prove if your not a A-list celebrity or business owner or whatever. In any case, I hope he's okay and that he comes back to streaming eventually.
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The call was faked. Obviously so. Stop pearl clutching.
 
I just spent the past like half an hour just relooking over everything and trying to get into the mindset of these people, and like try to believe their side of things and I just can't for the most part. The only thing that I do think 100% happened is he did fuck a fan or fans, which... okay?

Like I don't get what this was trying to accomplish. Like even under the assumption every single thing is 100% true all that results in what? He scored some easy pussy? Like none of these people openly say they want to cancel him though im sure they wouldn't be against the idea, but theres nothing here that could even lead to something like that, even if this stuff didnt blow up in their faces.

So the next step is so everyone can see the "other" side of vinny, and again, assuming ALL of this is real which its not hes portrayed as a genuine and remorseful person that values his privacy which all of these people violated while also at the same time "fearing" for their own. Like what kind of fucking double standard is that.

And on top of all this, none of that changes the fact the man is a funny streamer man that entertains thousands and annually help raise money for charity, unlike a certain other person whose now in hiding with his arcade machines.

The only thing I could see this accomplishing, which it did was fuck up the poor dude, which was probably the hope.
 
Mark Knopfler said:
I just listened to the audio from the phone call in the doc and jesus...
When the doc came out and I listened to the first few minutes, I refused to believe that was actually him speaking. I didn't want to believe that he has sex with his fans because like he said, that information getting out can ruin someones career. However, I don't think he really did anything wrong. What he did with these people was completely consensual between two adults, he made it clear that he just wanted a no strings attatched, non-commital kind of thing with these people, and they understood that. Yet, out of complete malice and intent to ruin Vinny's life, they leak out all of this stuff because they were upset he didn't marry them right after.

You can hear Vinny speaking in the call in such as way like he's fearing for his life. Like he feels guilty about what he's doing, and that if this stuff gets out, it could ruin everything he built over the past 11 years. Little did he know that the enitre conversation was being recorded with the intent to use it against him. If the people accusing him had no problem with him, they wouldn't have been recording everything.

I hope he gets back at these people somehow, but I'm not sure if he'll be able to get a defamation case going as people have pointed out, those are particularly hard to prove if your not a A-list celebrity or business owner or whatever. In any case, I hope he's okay and that he comes back to streaming eventually.
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The fact the conversation was being recorded in the first place really gives me the impression they put him up against something he couldn't really justify with the intent of using it out of context. I can't think of a single good reason why this was being recorded to being with. The only manipulation going on here is on the accusers part.
 
Bluemonday said:
I just spent the past like half an hour just relooking over everything and trying to get into the mindset of these people, and like try to believe their side of things and I just can't for the most part. The only thing that I do think 100% happened is he did fuck a fan or fans, which... okay?

Like I don't get what this was trying to accomplish. Like even under the assumption every single thing is 100% true all that results in what? He scored some easy pussy? Like none of these people openly say they want to cancel him though im sure they wouldn't be against the idea, but theres nothing here that could even lead to something like that, even if this stuff didnt blow up in their faces.

So the next step is so everyone can see the "other" side of vinny, and again, assuming ALL of this is real which its not hes portrayed as a genuine and remorseful person that values his privacy which all of these people violated while also at the same time "fearing" for their own. Like what kind of fucking double standard is that.

And on top of all this, none of that changes the fact the man is a funny streamer man that entertains thousands and annually help raise money for charity, unlike a certain other person whose now in hiding with his arcade machines.

The only thing I could see this accomplishing, which it did was fuck up the poor dude, which was probably the hope.
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I mean Alyssa has said the doesn't want to cancel Vinny, she just wants to warn others (of what exactly I still don't know)
I'm failing to understand what the whole point of this is about, because "local NY Italian musician fucks fans"
 
GravelAndSyrup said:
twitter and tumblr children like to look up psychological terms and render them completely meaningless.

"grooming" has come to mean "someone on the internet flirting with you"
"gaslighting" has come to mean "someone on the internet disagreeing with you"
"triggering" has come to mean "something on the internet made you uncomfortable"
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Whenever I see the word "grooming" I'm always reminded of that time Sargon called Metokur a groomer
 
Sihainta said:
I mean Alyssa has said the doesn't want to cancel Vinny, she just wants to warn others (of what exactly I still don't know)
I'm failing to understand what the whole point of this is about, because "local NY Italian musician fucks fans"
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Sharing "Dwunk pictures" and starting a Patreon this January doesn't help her case either. It is kind of hypocritical if you try make a big deal about Vinny asking her for tit pics but try to make money off of exactly that. It is beneficial for coomers, but there are many cases that their (mostly fragile) mental health will deteriorate even more sooner or later because of that. Anisa Jomha would be a more recent/blatant example.
Also I noticed something when looking through the patreon pics:

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Her pupils look way too dilated for the light source. My guess it's possibly a moderate-to-high dose of a serotoninergic substance. Either way: Trying to sell shit like this under some sort of influence (either therapeutical or recreational) is a very bad idea. Why is it suddenly so hard to get a normal job instead? Sure, COVID rekt the economy hard. But learning a new trade is better than throwing away your dignity.


If it's "empowering", you go gurl. But don't expect there won't be any consequences from digging your own grave in regard to your professional and private life.
 
This and the Dan thing just goes to show you should never shit where you eat.

Fucking your fans just never ends well for anyone, neither is confusing your fans as if they are your friends. You have to strictly treat them as customers of your product because that is what they are. Otherwise 99% of the time it will bite you in the ass.
 
What I'm still struggling to understand is the use of the word "victim" in all of this. Victim of what? Victim of your own dumb decisions? Victim of thinking that you could change a guy who, by the looks of it, is very open about being emotionally unavailable?

Do we actually need to start dressing women up in bin bags and locking them in the house because they can't make their own decisions?

Was Islam right about women?

Sihainta said:
I'm failing to understand what the whole point of this is about, because "local NY Italian musician fucks fans"
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Something something power dynamic. I'd be more concerned if he wasn't getting laid to be honest. He's a single, attractive man who's grown his own business and works hard to the point where it looks like he doesn't get much of a social life beyond his streams. Just let the guy get some poon every now and then, the poor lad.
 
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