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Vinny’s lawyer having to sift through troglodytes on twitter and horrendous makeup onlyfan posts to prove local pizza pasta man innocent
 

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911WhatyourJonathan said:
"it doesnt feel good to hurt vinny. but do i stay silent and let this behavior go unchecked" (Archive)
Yes. You showed noots, and even he said he was uncomfortable with drunk emails in your own "evidence", but you're the one who liked this tweet, and then said shit like this, and then shit like above.
With the amount of flip-flopping she's doing she must have amazing core muscles.

Also, love the clowns coming out of the woodwork and having their tweets commented on (Archive)
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This is just confirming the whole "overly attached and now vindictive" thing. Which is why you don't fuck your fans, they might say they want to keep it casual too, but they will delude themselves to think you will fall in love with them.
 
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Bluemonday said:
Dude hes not that old
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He could have, in a completely theoretical situation fathered her when he was 13/14. In a completely theoretical situation, Vinny is old enough to be a grandfather.

Steven Tyler has probably get fucked girls he could have grandfathered.
 
WaluigisTacoStand said:
Ok but he legit could have fathered her, just sayin....
20 and 27 is in no way problematic.
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Just so you know, at one point a 20 and 27 year old were in elementary school and high school respectively.

Funny how just randomly coming up with different contexts that aren't reflective of the real life situation can make things look worse than they are
 
Observotron said:
Okay, if we're playing autistic clue, let me chime in with my speculated series of events.

Disclaimer, this is speculation. I'm not claiming to know any concrete info.


- At some point Vinny hooks up with various girls. Could be in a small time frame or not, I don't really think it's relevant. Naturally some of them feel burnt, possibly hoping/expecting something more to develope.

-GPM/Cap or whoever has a grudge with Vinny catch wind. They convince these people to contact someone who has a history 'helping' women who make these allegations in one way or another.

-Enter Redbard, who I believe believes the victims. I wouldn't say she's done anything more than exaggerate what is a benign 'issue'.

- Redbard speaks with these people. Given person 4's testimony about being misrepresented, I would wager this might have started off as 'let me vent to someone who has dealt with stuff like this before." kind of deal.

-As more and more people (at least 4) speak about it, Redbard begins to put together the document. In Madnalore's apology he states the document was in development for months and also claims the mutual friend is (or at least identifies) as a he.

-In order to gain traction, what I will call the malicious party (GPM and Cap) gets together with the Influencer party (Redbard, Mandalore, and co.)

-Probably through some vague association with 8Bit Brad, Mandalore and the other guy (don't remember his name) agree to throw-out a retweet without much thought.

- Then we get to the part that is already pretty well documented.


Once again I'll reiterate, this is purely a work of my imagination. The problem with this would be that it would be nearly impossible to prove any intentional malicious intent.

EDIT: I realize the spliced audio and other alleged fake documents don't really come up with this theory, but I would presume they would be created and provided by various parties when necessary, thus contributing to those 'months' of preparation.
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replace GPM / Cap in your 2nd line with 8bit and i think it is mostly accurate. Don't forget that this started organizing in December and they made one of the abused go talk to evil abuser vinny in February so they could record the conversation in the doc to have a shred of something that seemed legitimate. see my previous novel if you need a refresher.
 
ThomVin said:
Just so you know, at one point a 20 and 27 year old were in elementary school and high school respectively.

Funny how just randomly coming up with different contexts that aren't reflective of the real life situation can make things look worse than they are
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I know someone who married a girl born the same day as him.

But he was born 9 hours earlier, the sick fuck.
 
Imakuni when asked about the drama during her stream told people she's not involved and to take that shit elsewhere.
Glad that the team isn't giving the drama any leverage and just focusing on VIDEO GAMES.
 
Anything that uses some variation of "le sauce" in its name, not counting the internet slang for "source", is fucking retarded and deserves all ridicule.
 
Slamerella said:
Since people have been asking for a tl;dr, I guess I'll do it

THE GIST:​

Vinny from the streaming group Vinesauce had a huge google doc from a twitter, VS_Experiences with four people giving experiences with him in real life and on the internet, with coercion to post nude photographs and videos, to have sex with him, and even one having the claim that he knowingly gave one victim hepatitis. This then got RT'd by MandalorianGaming, ShammyTV, Red Bard, GeePM, and 8BitBrody. The validity of the claims, and the audio recording of the person who claimed she contracted HPV were debated, and the people who RT'd the claims got loads of flak. Vinesauce Mods, and fans alike came together to defend and debunk. Vinny announced on Sunday through a pre-recorded stream he will take legal action.

THE KEY PLAYERS:​
Vinny: The man that the google doc is about. Long time and full time stream who owns Vinesauce and also member of his band Red Vox. The one who the doc is targetting.

GeePM: Former Vinesauce member who was one of the first to retweet the Google doc. Has been under fire recently for harboring and defending multiple streamer friends including Rob/DrunkWario who were outted as sex offenders. While under Vinesauce he used the fanbase to leech money with a lie about rent. After these incidents he removed access to his Discord, lost over 9000 followers within three days, protected his twitter, and supposedly did it through a blockchain which would explain why he bled.

Red Bard, ShammyTV, and Mandalore Gaming: YouTube channel owners of various interests that RT'd the doc. The latter two did not look into the doc and have retracted their retweet. Red Bard continues to say the allegations are real, and supposedly knows victims.

THE WOMEN:​
Mim: Fanartist for Vinny who has "waited for this moment", has done but nothing but celebrate the doc. Has gone private since Vinny confirmed he's hired a lawyer.

Charon: Former mod who left Vinesauce's mod team. Swears she's for social justice and equality and anti fascism despite many accounts of racism, and otherkinning Charon from Gundam, a literal fascist.

SgtFgt: Vinesauce Fan who's debunked many edited messages, including ones of her own. Is also Jemma, and Ushimama_. Defends Vinny.

Alyssa Falcone: Fan who has willingly and continuously sent photos and rumored to have fucked Vinny. Emails show it's been 100% consensual.

OTHER PEOPLE OF INTEREST:​
Joowz/Capicoli/Nugget?: Supposedly a man jealous of Vinny's success as a streamer. Claims of him being the one behind it have been made but never been disproven. Nugget is supposedly Cap, due to how he reacts, interacts, and responds. Again, no solid evidence.

8bitBrody: Another person who RT'd the doc but ultimately seems like a sperg who does anything for a quick buck. Still a good idea to keep eyes on him.

Mike: Vinny's longtime friend and bandmate who defended Vinny. That's about all he's said.

Anything else I missed, let me know. There's a lot to go through.

Edited for accidental early posting and some formatting.
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8BB needs to be up with key players, everyone in this thread is letting him fly completely under the radar, im pretty sold on him being the "friend" that got all these tubers and streamers together in the first place. GPM seems to be a useful idiot like Mandy & Shammy, Perhaps you should refer to my post, Book 1 of why I'm a Pissy baby https://kiwifarms.net/threads/vinesauce.9958/page-327#post-8700201
 
Slamerella said:
Since people have been asking for a tl;dr, I guess I'll do it

THE GIST:​

Vinny from the streaming group Vinesauce had a huge google doc from a twitter, VS_Experiences with four people giving experiences with him in real life and on the internet, with coercion to post nude photographs and videos, to have sex with him, and even one having the claim that he knowingly gave one victim hepatitis. This then got RT'd by MandalorianGaming, ShammyTV, Red Bard, GeePM, and 8BitBrody. The validity of the claims, and the audio recording of the person who claimed she contracted HPV were debated, and the people who RT'd the claims got loads of flak. Vinesauce Mods, and fans alike came together to defend and debunk. Vinny announced on Sunday through a pre-recorded stream he will take legal action.

THE KEY PLAYERS:​
Vinny: The man that the google doc is about. Long time and full time stream who owns Vinesauce and also member of his band Red Vox. The one who the doc is targetting.

GeePM: Former Vinesauce member who was one of the first to retweet the Google doc. Has been under fire recently for harboring and defending multiple streamer friends including Rob/DrunkWario who were outted as sex offenders. While under Vinesauce he used the fanbase to leech money with a lie about rent. After these incidents he removed access to his Discord, lost over 9000 followers within three days, protected his twitter, and supposedly did it through a blockchain which would explain why he bled.

Red Bard, ShammyTV, and Mandalore Gaming: YouTube channel owners of various interests that RT'd the doc. The latter two did not look into the doc and have retracted their retweet. Red Bard continues to say the allegations are real, and supposedly knows victims.

THE WOMEN:​
Mim: Fanartist for Vinny who has "waited for this moment", has done but nothing but celebrate the doc. Has gone private since Vinny confirmed he's hired a lawyer.

Charon: Former mod who left Vinesauce's mod team. Swears she's for social justice and equality and anti fascism despite many accounts of racism, and otherkinning Charon from Gundam, a literal fascist.

SgtFgt: Vinesauce Fan who's debunked many edited messages, including ones of her own. Is also Jemma, and Ushimama_. Defends Vinny.

Alyssa Falcone: Fan who has willingly and continuously sent photos and rumored to have fucked Vinny. Emails show it's been 100% consensual.

OTHER PEOPLE OF INTEREST:​
Joowz/Capicoli/Nugget?: Supposedly a man jealous of Vinny's success as a streamer. Claims of him being the one behind it have been made but never been disproven. Nugget is supposedly Cap, due to how he reacts, interacts, and responds. Again, no solid evidence.

8bitBrody: Another person who RT'd the doc but ultimately seems like a sperg who does anything for a quick buck. Still a good idea to keep eyes on him.

Mike: Vinny's longtime friend and bandmate who defended Vinny. That's about all he's said.

Anything else I missed, let me know. There's a lot to go through.

Edited for accidental early posting and some formatting.
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The STD was HPV, not hepatitis like you stated once. All the rest of it is accurate though.
 
TurgidCelery said:
8BB needs to be up with key players, everyone in this thread is letting him fly completely under the radar, im pretty sold on him being the "friend" that got all these tubers and streamers together in the first place. GPM seems to be a useful idiot like Mandy & Shammy, Perhaps you should refer to my post, Book 1 of why I'm a Pissy baby https://kiwifarms.net/threads/vinesauce.9958/page-327#post-8700201
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Hold on, I refuse to believe GPM is a useful idiot here considering the retarded actions he's done in the past few days and 4chan anons calling him out early
He is definitely higher in the totem pole

I would say in podium order of who had the most involvement here:

1. GeePM (ousted by Vinesauce community for his shady donation baiting) / Hi_yeena (being associated with GG sex scandal?) / Red Bard + Cap & Joowz Crew (Hate boner of Vinny going back to around 2014 when he was still actively promoting there, and Red Bard is also associated with Hi_Yeena and the Game Grumps sex scandal with Dan so she could signal virtue boost like a SJW)

2. Networkers like 8BitBrody and a fringe group of 'victims' of Vinny's ghosting

3. Useful idiots like Mandy (could be higher tier imo) and Shammy and previous associates and sperglords who fallen out of Vinesauce and the community such as Charon and 'proudnugget444' in respective order, to fan the flames

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Kumquatacus said:
Why not? If I had girls throwing themselves at me you bet I'd be fucking them all day
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Basically this, and it's one of the reasons why I suspect that this sort of drama will never go away. You can talk about all these rules that are supposed to regulate sexual activity between consenting adults all you like, don't fuck your fans, don't stick your dick in crazy, half your age plus seven, etc, but when it comes right down to it men are still people, still human beings, still mammals and when the pussy starts throwing itself at a man for whatever reason, most men will eventually cave.

If I had chicks beating down my door to fuck me, practically speaking, the most I would do is try and make sure that they aren't underage, and the same is true for most men. When you combine this with modern communications technology making it increasingly easy for interpersonal drama to spread far and wide you get situations like this one. Vinny didn't actually do anything wrong legally or morally, he didn't force anyone to do anything and you'll have to excuse me if I don't take claims of him being some sort of skillful manipulator seriously when his main claim to fame based on this thread is him saying funny things or making amusing noises about video games he's playing, but that doesn't matter to the sorts of angry and bitter people who try to get these outrage mobs going.

Fortunately for Vinny, he has a loyal fanbase who will defend him for various reasons, I really pity the poor bastards who don't have that.
 
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Slamerella said:
Since people have been asking for a tl;dr, I guess I'll do it

THE GIST:​

Vinny from the streaming group Vinesauce had a huge google doc from a twitter, VS_Experiences with four people giving experiences with him in real life and on the internet, with coercion to post nude photographs and videos, to have sex with him, and even one having the claim that he knowingly gave one victim hepatitis. This then got RT'd by MandalorianGaming, ShammyTV, Red Bard, GeePM, and 8BitBrody. The validity of the claims, and the audio recording of the person who claimed she contracted HPV were debated, and the people who RT'd the claims got loads of flak. Vinesauce Mods, and fans alike came together to defend and debunk. Vinny announced on Sunday through a pre-recorded stream he will take legal action.

THE KEY PLAYERS:​
Vinny: The man that the google doc is about. Long time and full time stream who owns Vinesauce and also member of his band Red Vox. The one who the doc is targetting.

GeePM: Former Vinesauce member who was one of the first to retweet the Google doc. Has been under fire recently for harboring and defending multiple streamer friends including Rob/DrunkWario who were outted as sex offenders. While under Vinesauce he used the fanbase to leech money with a lie about rent. After these incidents he removed access to his Discord, lost over 9000 followers within three days, protected his twitter, and supposedly did it through a blockchain which would explain why he bled.

Red Bard, ShammyTV, and Mandalore Gaming: YouTube channel owners of various interests that RT'd the doc. The latter two did not look into the doc and have retracted their retweet. Red Bard continues to say the allegations are real, and supposedly knows victims.

THE WOMEN:​
Mim: Fanartist for Vinny who has "waited for this moment", has done but nothing but celebrate the doc. Has gone private since Vinny confirmed he's hired a lawyer.

Charon: Former mod who left Vinesauce's mod team. Swears she's for social justice and equality and anti fascism despite many accounts of racism, and otherkinning Charon from Gundam, a literal fascist.

SgtFgt: Vinesauce Fan who's debunked many edited messages, including ones of her own. Is also Jemma, and Ushimama_. Defends Vinny.

Alyssa Falcone: Fan who has willingly and continuously sent photos and rumored to have fucked Vinny. Emails show it's been 100% consensual.

OTHER PEOPLE OF INTEREST:​
Joowz/Capicoli/Nugget?: Supposedly a man jealous of Vinny's success as a streamer. Claims of him being the one behind it have been made but never been disproven. Nugget is supposedly Cap, due to how he reacts, interacts, and responds. Again, no solid evidence.

8bitBrody: Another person who RT'd the doc but ultimately seems like a sperg who does anything for a quick buck. Still a good idea to keep eyes on him.

Mike: Vinny's longtime friend and bandmate who defended Vinny. That's about all he's said.

Anything else I missed, let me know. There's a lot to go through.

Edited for accidental early posting and some formatting.
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Alyssa Falcone claims that Vinny pressured her into sending nudes in 2017, but continued to make art for him at least as recently as May 2020. Assuming it even happened, and there still are no receipts, she still covered it up for 3 years while continuing to draw art to help promote him.

lichpit - This is the person that Person #4 of the document claims DM'd them about an unnamed friend of Vinny's being an actual predator. lichpit shares some DMs supposedly belonging to Person #4 where 4 manipulates lichpit into contacting Vinny directly about the situation. Vinny apparently made himself immediately available to lichpit and tried to disengage her from the situation, but 4 kept pestering lichpit after she wanted out.
 
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