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Dr.Sturgeon said:
>Draws one of Vinnies alter egos with a dick weed hat , sunglass that say bitch , daddy choker and a shirt that says " i'm not gay but 20$ is a 20$ ".
Jeez i wonder why they didn't allow this one on the booru.🤔
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Could be worse.
 
You know, I've been wondering why Joel still hasn't played LISA? Considering it's like an edgy lovechild of Earthbound and Fist of the North Star, it's like someone sat down and made a game specifically for Joel. Or maybe he avoids streaming it because it's problematic and chat would blow a gasket?
 
Kaktus Kompot said:
You know, I've been wondering why Joel still hasn't played LISA? Considering it's like an edgy lovechild of Earthbound and Fist of the North Star, it's like someone sat down and made a game specifically for Joel. Or maybe he avoids streaming it because it's problematic and chat would blow a gasket?
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Okay, LISA is my favorite game series of all time and I've replayed all three games multiple times, so I've gotta ask you - in what world would anyone consider any of the LISA games "problematic"?? Sure, it deals with some heavy stuff, but it does so in a very empathetic way and it gets it right. I've literally never heard anyone refer to the LISA games in that way, not even the most bleeding heart leftist. Kinda sounds like you're just taking a cheap pot-shot against the new crowd of Vinesauce fans, which would be fair if what you said had any basis in truth - but as I mentioned earlier in the thread, Joel's fans are the closest in composition to the original makeup of the Vinesauce community, so your comment makes zero sense from the jump. They'd be the LEAST likely to have an issue with LISA.

That said, I asked the same question in this thread months ago, and I think the answer is simply that Joel couldn't do that game justice on stream. I assume you're referring only to Lisa: The Painful, and it's true that the game has some really incredible and funny moments that I would kill to see him react to - but the other half of the game deals with shit like parental abuse (both physical and sexual in this case), rape, drug abuse, psychosis brought on BY abuse, so on and so forth. And that's not even everything, that's just what I could think of in the 2 minutes it took me to type this response. Joel is my favorite streamer and always has been, he's one of the funniest people I've ever seen, but I ask you - do you honestly think he could handle any of those subjects with maturity? Or would he just be uncomfortably silent the entire time and not know how to respond? Better yet, would he even get some of what was being said (since a lot of the game's biggest reveals are layered in subtext)?

Short answer, no. I think Joel attempting to stream LISA would go much the same way as Vinny attempting to stream Death Stranding - I think he'd try to double down on plowing through the emotional stuff and treating it all as a joke, which is definitely not what you want out of a LISA stream. I would LOVE if he played it on his own and just gave his thoughts on it, or if he did a much smaller stream (Vineyard-style) for a more intimate feel and then uploaded funny highlights from it. In either case, I think doing a full on playthrough of it would be a mistake, and it would probably not be that enjoyable for anyone.
 
About LISA. I think he said in stream (one that now is forever lost because it was an art stream and he doesn't really upload those anywhere) he got recommended that game multiple times, and said he would love to play it, but yes, it was a matter of being warned about heavy subjects. So, pretty much depends of what he was told.
 
doctor bitchcraft said:
About LISA. I think he said in stream (one that now is forever lost because it was an art stream and he doesn't really upload those anywhere) he got recommended that game multiple times, and said he would love to play it, but yes, it was a matter of being warned about heavy subjects. So, pretty much depends of what he was told.
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Honestly, it only takes a cursory glance at the game's basic premise for one to realize it might not be the best thing to stream to a mixed audience of thousands. The shortest summation I can give of Lisa: The Painful is "drug-addicted abuse victim tries to locate his preteen daughter before she's kidnapped and turned into a sex slave," and that's not even touching on any of the background stuff. So I can imagine that didn't exactly win him over on the concept of playing it for his followers.

Again, I really think he should play it for himself if he hasn't already, because the game's sense of humor is right up his alley, but I really would not want to see him struggling to treat the subject matter with the gravitas it deserves. Not that I think he couldn't appreciate it, but I think that Joel's humor when he's streaming is so based in mockery (sometimes loving, sometimes not) that it really would not lend itself well to a game like that.
 
Most Dumbest Bitch said:
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You make a lot of good points. It would probably go similarly to his Phantasmagoria 2 playthrough where he either goofs around most of the time or sits in uncomfortable silence whenever main character's childhood abuse and psychological issues get brought up. He always seems fine with horror and gore (even gleeful when playing stuff like Doom), unless it's heavily psychological and depressing, like when he refused to play I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream videogame, because it was too heavy and fucked up in a non-fun way. I honestly think that Joel is actually more fun to listen to when he takes stuff seriously, like when he talked about his interest in history, about his history books colection and how he dedicated a whole song to Ghengis Khan.

Fistbeard_McThunderaxe said:
I wish Joel would make fun of the fan base more. Vinny doesn't even want to offend furries nowadays.
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I remember during one of the Sims stream when a character representing the chat was randomly given cat ears, Joel proceded to uwu overexaggeratedly and gave them traits like mean and snob. Yeah, that was a joke, but every joke has a kernel of truth, as they say.
 
Vinesauce Joel should honestly just come out as a TERF and a Nazi it would be really funny watching the pronoun brigade cry
 
That's what I like about Joel so much over other streamers and internet personalities in general. He doesn't dabble in politics, he's actually good at video games when he puts his mind to it, he's genuinely funny and charismatic, and he's not afraid to make fun of his fanbase when they're sperging out.

Mainly the "not dabbling in politics" thing. When even people like Technology Connections feel the need to spew their politics through their social media it all just becomes so tiring.

EDIT: Another thing I like about Joel is that if he went out and said something "controversial" I don't think he'd retract it for the sake of his fanbase freaking out, probably moreso his standing with Twitch. For example, in the chinese translated pokemon streams he mentions there were many 'naughty words' that had to be manually pruned from the ROM because twitch wouldn't like it. Nothing about "Oh they're mean words" or "I don't want them on my stream" He used to say nigger back as recent as 2015. His Alien Isolation stream is a good example.
 
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