I wanted to write two lines about the Vinesauce's streamers hypocrisy when it comes to shit-talking, since they abandoned a whole site, and closed their forums in favour of a discord servers only because they were being "shit talked by fans" but all they do is crap on anything that fans do, like the wiki, or facebook groups, or other discord servers....
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I want to correct something: there weren't no such pics against black nor lgbtq+ people. maybe they were referring to a meme that I can't find anywhere, but it's a format that goes like this:
And everyone used the "heart" reaction, since
it's a meme.
They're quickly becoming lolcows, another example is that if you go in joel's today stream, during the art section Joel kept repeating that he hates the wiki "because it is managed by fans and not them", which really is pretty hypocrite from them since that they made entire streams saying to their fans "
not to trash talk them". And then they proceeded shit talking someone else. no,really.
Also about the "very toxic community": if you go in the official servers, the public is an autistic hellhole in which if you don't love each and every streamer then you'll be nuked from orbit, and the community is pretty stupid.
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this is an everyday's talk, although I took it from the "introduce yourself" channel, which is where people beg to for a rank that lets you see more channels rather than just the rules. the problem is that only Jen or Marisa can edit roles (iirc). while on the vinecord's main channel people talk about the same shit (usually why everything sucks) and if you try to introduce more argouments, they'll usually ignore you. The one and only time we managed to discuss about youtube, someone started crying because we said that matpat's videos about fnaf were terrible and that someone started calling mods.
And I was called "toxic" and had to stop chatting for a while because I said that "youtubers are only exploiting both their fandom and the ad revenue to get some money rather than trying to improve themselves through part-time jobs and stop whoring themselves through patreon nudes".
While some users reported that the other two sub-only discord servers are often dead. with the last messages often being from weeks ago.
I also like how Direboar no longer wants to talk about other vinesauce streamers, although they still are in the same community, and the only one he hosts is some grill, limealicious. And for a while he even banned from chat anyone mentioning other streamers from vinesauce. He was did this shit so much that even some 4chan's /v/ anons talked about in a thread about vinesauce, they kept about DB for a while, if I'm not mistaken is a thread from 2016.
(but I can't find the damn thread because I'm terrible using duckduckgo and google to find 4chan's archived threads).
I can also recall, back in 2015 when they removed the Chatango chat from the site, I asked Jen why they did that.
She told me something about people stealing money from charity and they not wanting to have anything to do about it. When I asked some users from the chat, they told me "nah, they only went butthurt because some shithead kept trashtalking them making dramas",and also send some screenshots, while all Jen had to offer was her word against some pictures.
TL;DR: They're declining in quality and views as well, while I do understand that keeping 10 years is hard to keep up, especially now, they've been stalling for a while, imo.
Both because they lost their edge, all they do now is just to please the chat, while earlier they couldn't give a shit about it, and because they totally changed they way they talk.
Thoughts?
