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[CharcoalChkn]

You're mixing up Charonian and Red Jackal. Charonian is an old 4chan user who cuts ties with people at the first sign of trouble. Red Jackal is still working with Vinny on VR Chat and other stuff. She just left the subreddit because dealing with people was too stressful. I've heard she has this issue in general and takes medication for it.

Thank you for correcting me!

You are absolutely on the money, infact I found the exact thread I had misremembered coming from Jackal on Charon's twitter.

Again, sorry for being a bit quick on the draw and also being wrong.

 

[Aquinas 2]

@Higgs Bonbon you seem like a pretty cool person
How much that girldick stink tho?

 

[Maniacal Foreigner]

You're mixing up Charonian and Red Jackal. Charonian is an old 4chan user who cuts ties with people at the first sign of trouble. Red Jackal is still working with Vinny on VR Chat and other stuff. She just left the subreddit because dealing with people was too stressful. I've heard she has this issue in general and takes medication for it.

Isn't Jackal a tranny, or am I mixing them up with someone?

 

[Jotch]

Red Jackal

She

She

Isn't Jackal a tranny

Can we get a Sneed's fact check on the troon status of Jackal?
I figured just by hearing the voice that it was absolutely a tranny. (Remind me to post a clip if you want me to)

 

[Maniacal Foreigner]

Remind me to post a clip if you want me to

Go right ahead, archiving shit is what this place is all about.

 

[HelGarmr]

It's worth noting that back in 2021, Red Jackal was a moderator on the subreddit. She left after all the drama with the accusations. Considering the things she's said about this place on her Twitter and streams, I wouldn't be surprised if it was her.

Find it curious that after talk about Alizarin is brought up in this thread, a brand new account made yesterday brings up a mod that hasnt been moderating the reddit for a while, seemingly to switch the attention. From what I know and based on what Jackal has posted on twitter, leaving the reddit and other places around that time had more to do with a parent passing away and reducing internet presence to focus more on that. Jackal still has a good friendship with Vinny, so is unrelated to any of the callout drama and tends to stay out of drama from what has been observed. A lot of information can be obtained from the twitter or simply being around in the community when Jackal is present.
Jackal also doesnt hide being an old 4channer and likely surrounded by folks who also used to lurk there. The difference between someone like Charonian and Jackal being 4channers, is the latter doesnt try to act like the moral police while also having posted to the funny basketweaving forum.

I would suggest if you want to provide correct info to the thread on anyone in the community, you gotta do your homework properly.

As for the trans stuff, its been mentioned on twitter once in a while, that people like to mistake Jackal for a transwoman. Maybe because of the deeper or hard to discern voice?
Jackal is female born supposedly and identifies as He/They these days. Still trans I guess, but take that as you will. I do know way back before Jackal's voice was put out there, a lot of people just automatically assumed Jackal was a he. So apparently people were either confused or convinced themselves of what Jackal was before anything was ever said or put out there identity-wise.
So if Jackal was born female and a bunch of people (here and 4chan) just jumped to the conclusion that Jackal was a guy trying to be female without checking first, what exactly are you doing?
Just make sure you confirm information before you post, otherwise you'll come off like a retard.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Jackal is female born supposedly and identifies as He/They these days.

unfortunate to hear, i hope she finds peace with herself some day. is there any good content with jackal i should check out? and since you seem to have been in the vinesauce community for a long time (i started watching vinny in 2014 but haven't really progressed past him and joel's videos and streams and fullsauce vods) is it just me, or does vinny in the era of 2014 sound like he's one bad day from putting the gun in his mouth?

 

[Eastern_Airport7964]

Also I've noticed after TMG he's been a bit pissy, passive-aggressive and sounds tired lately whenever his memetic legacy's brought up, almost like he's embarrassed by it, but doesn't want to outright admit it.

Spoiler: His fame may be taking a toll on him...

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Spoiler: There were better images from TooManyGames to use as an example

Image choice aside, I think you may be on to something as Vinny does seem to be pushing for more Red Vox shows to the point of paying for ads on Instagram to increase their follower numbers. I personally feel like being seen as the "funny bing bing wahoo man" can go against being taken seriously as a musician, especially if venues are not familiar with Vinesauce or even Twitch as a whole.

vinny has never been someone who does well with large gatherings like this, and he's over 35 now. he doesn't do that much to take care of himself beyond the basics i imagine, so this much interaction with people and walking around doing crap all day probably did wear him out. i wonder if vinny will go past 40.

If you look at the concert footage (livestream or recorded by an attendee), you can see Vinny did not even keep himself hydrated during the Red Vox set. Mike and Jerrold had bottles of water at their feet and Bill and Joe had cans of Blue Moon as their beverage of choice but Vinny had absolutely nothing for at least an hour and 15 minutes while singing and playing guitar. So I think Vinny is failing at taking basic care of himself but who knows, maybe the concert was a one-off in bad self-care.

She was very vocal about it all IIRC and went pretty scorched earth with her relationship with Vinny/Vinesauce.

E: I appear to be somewhat wrong, I quickly jumped on her twitter, she is still active in Vinesauce community as well in being in her bio. I do recall her being harsh publicly on Vinny at the time though, so I'm confused. Need a proper lore master to correct the record, I'm sorry.

Not a proper lore master but if the edit is in regards Charon (@Charoncaori) then you are correct about her being publicly harsh on Vinny. That being said, apparently not harsh enough:

My screenshot is from Wednesday 17th July 2024. If you follow Vinny on X and are not blocked by Charon, I would have a look for yourself.

 

[HelGarmr]

unfortunate to hear, i hope she finds peace with herself some day. is there any good content with jackal i should check out? and since you seem to have been in the vinesauce community for a long time (i started watching vinny in 2014 but haven't really progressed past him and joel's videos and streams and fullsauce vods) is it just me, or does vinny in the era of 2014 sound like he's one bad day from putting the gun in his mouth?

While AgentRedJackal does show up in Vinny's VRChat videos and has a youtube/twitch channel, you might be better off checking what Jackal has made for Vinny's streams instead, up to you. Like Chat GPT generates The Grey Leno Show, VineRooms, The Vinesauce RE2 mod, Room of the Room Rooms etc. Jackal even built a mock smelting room in VRC so that Vinny could simulate melting his cock trophy for when he hit 1 mil subscribers, made the fake 3d Vinesauce nfts for a Vdub bit, worked on areas for VineRealms, vtuber models etc. There's a bunch of random Vinesauce stuff on Jackal's channel.

Other than Vinny always naturally sounding like hes tired or done with existence, for a chunk of his old content Vinny did have a couple miserable jobs he was dealing with on the side of streaming. 2014 is when he started to jump in popularity but itd be a while until he could rely on it completely for a source of income. Iecause of the mic he was using and not being as experienced as he is now with projecting his voice, it may have added to how tired he came off.

 

[Jotch]

Go right ahead, archiving shit is what this place is all about.

Well then I present to you the video which revealed to me that the mods were very homosexual.

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Clip:

It sounds quite a bit like Keffals. But it's not as cut and dry as I thought it was just a couple years ago. So I'm glad I went back to look at it again with more Troon Experience.

As for the trans stuff, its been mentioned on twitter once in a while, that people like to mistake Jackal for a transwoman. Maybe because of the deeper or hard to discern voice?
Jackal is female born supposedly and identifies as He/They these days. Still trans I guess, but take that as you will. I do know way back before Jackal's voice was put out there, a lot of people just automatically assumed Jackal was a he. So apparently people were either confused or convinced themselves of what Jackal was before anything was ever said or put out there identity-wise.
So if Jackal was born female and a bunch of people (here and 4chan) just jumped to the conclusion that Jackal was a guy trying to be female without checking first, what exactly are you doing?
Just make sure you confirm information before you post, otherwise you'll come off like a retard.

Is that true? How can we be sure it's not a Brianna Wu or Justaminx TheRPGMinx case? It's not unheard of for male to female troons to try very unusual misdirections.
In all of the above cases you can tell something is deeply wrong by the voice alone.
For example, when I was a young lad watching the Seananners and such, and I heard Justaminx TheRPGMinx, I would experience some deep feeling of aversion and unease at just how wrong his voice sounded. However he just said he was a "gay woman" if I remember correctly. So hearing 15 years later that it's a tranny was really funny and explained a lot.


All in all I'm very disappointed he learned nothing after the google docs incident. That was a perfect opportunity for him to cut this shit out, but he instead doubled over into it. Same goes for escaping the Twitch monopoly after getting banned. Perhaps he really is just another NYC denizen who will never be able to escape the farm.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

While AgentRedJackal does show up in Vinny's VRChat videos and has a youtube/twitch channel, you might be better off checking what Jackal has made for Vinny's streams instead, up to you. Like Chat GPT generates The Grey Leno Show, VineRooms, The Vinesauce RE2 mod, Room of the Room Rooms etc. Jackal even built a mock smelting room in VRC so that Vinny could simulate melting his cock trophy for when he hit 1 mil subscribers, made the fake 3d Vinesauce nfts for a Vdub bit, worked on areas for VineRealms, vtuber models etc. There's a bunch of random Vinesauce stuff on Jackal's channel.

Other than Vinny always naturally sounding like hes tired or done with existence, for a chunk of his old content Vinny did have a couple miserable jobs he was dealing with on the side of streaming. 2014 is when he started to jump in popularity but itd be a while until he could rely on it completely for a source of income. Iecause of the mic he was using and not being as experienced as he is now with projecting his voice, it may have added to how tired he came off.

oh, those were jackal? okay, yeah, i've seen jackal's work in the past then. re2 vinesauce was great, still hard to believe vin had never played the classics. has he played RE2 ps1 yet?

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sounds like a woman to me, idk.

 

[HelGarmr]

If you look way back in the thread, its been discussed that Jackal used to have a nsfw twitter with boob pictures a long time ago, if its anything to confirm what Jackal used to identify as.
You could probably ask a ton of people that know or have met Jackal in real life. Not a male to female situation.
I think people automatically deeming something as trans-sounding makes them no better than trans people themselves thinking something completely unrelated is trans when its not.

 

[Aquinas 2]

unfortunate to hear, i hope she finds peace with herself some day.

What do you mean, arent you yourself trans?

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

What do you mean, arent you yourself trans?

i hope everyone trans or not finds peace, unless they're a pedophile, then i hope they find a bullet. i don't talk about it much anymore but i'm detrans myself now, yes. being a tranny was and is retarded, and i thank god every day i never went further down that path.

 

[Aquinas 2]

i hope everyone trans or not finds peace, unless they're a pedophile, then i hope they find a bullet. i don't talk about it much anymore but i'm detrans myself now, yes. being a tranny was and is retarded.

I see, well i wish you 1 million happiness's

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

I see, well i wish you 1 million happiness's

thank you, that means a lot. i know it's a rackets joke, but i'm taking it sincere. i hope things have been going well for you too.

Justaminx

i don't think i saw this on my first read. justaminx is trans? schlatt the chaser, oh no... is vinny in that friend circle? i know joel is somewhat insulated from it living in the icy northern tundras of sweden.

 

[Aquinas 2]

thank you, that means a lot. i know it's a rackets joke, but i'm taking it sincere. i hope things have been going well for you too.


i don't think i saw this on my first read. justaminx is trans?

joke it may be, it was sincere

 

[Maniacal Foreigner]

Is that true? How can we be sure it's not a Brianna Wu or Justaminx case? It's not unheard of for male to female troons to try very unusual misdirections.
In all of the above cases you can tell something is deeply wrong by the voice alone.
For example, when I was a young lad watching the Seananners and such, and I heard Justaminx, I would experience some deep feeling of aversion and unease at just how wrong his voice sounded. However he just said he was a "gay woman" if I remember correctly. So hearing 15 years later that it's a tranny was really funny and explained a lot.

You're mistaking JustaMinx for TheRPGMinx. Just pointing that out because I see it confused a few people.

 

[Jotch]

i don't think i saw this on my first read. justaminx is trans? schlatt the chaser

You're mistaking JustaMinx for TheRPGMinx. Just pointing that out because I see it confused a few people.

Correct, I went to figure out the username after the first post then saw yours.
Sorry! This is not the first time I confused them.
Justaminx is certainly not a troon.

 

[Peguin Sandwich]

hopefully the concert at Too Many Games will get him get his life back.

he doesn't do that much to take care of himself beyond the basics i imagine, so this much interaction with people and walking around doing crap all day probably did wear him out. i wonder if vinny will go past 40.

You two were on the money. This year's TMG must've been a walk-up call, because during last night's stream he got pretty introspective about the whole thing and about himself. He sounded really stressed the fuck out. I'll link the VOD once it gets uploaded, but to paraprase: He feels like he has imposter syndrom and wonders what his life even is sometimes.
*Edit:

Timestamps
Jaw related problems and tinnitus: 36:55 - 38:00
Concert tech issues and fanmail: 40:15 - 47:00
TMG axiety and fame: Current vid. linked - 54:25
Wants to do a smaller show: 55:54 - 56:19
Concludes he's a lucky guy: 57:40 - 58:27

Can we get a Sneed's fact check on the troon status of Jackal?
I figured just by hearing the voice that it was absolutely a tranny. (Remind me to post a clip if you want me to)

There's a facecam vid. of her talking about the Valve Index. She comes off like a tomboy/autistic woman.