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The past year has seen a huge uptick in these "allegations" it seems, probably due to covid meaning people are online more than ever. People want their minute of attention, and it's become increasingly easy to get.

We are reaching peak cancel culture. This is the point where the online entertainment community as a whole makes a decision; continue to let the mere existence of a twitlonger link destroy people's career, relationships, reputation, and mental health, or decide that enough is enough and that just because someone claims to be a victim doesn't mean they're not full of shit.

This is a guy who has spent the best part of a decade online, and has avoided any significant drama throughout. Yet one person throws together some dubious screenshots and an audio file (of literally nothing btw) and Vinny has to put his livelihood on hold and fork out for a lawyer. That is a truly terrifying amount of power over someone's life. What's to stop someone more competent nuking whoever they wish from the internet?

Hopefully we make the right decision, and I'm glad Vinny has put his foot down and stood up for himself. Too many people get bullied into apologising for their perceived slights, and end up vindicating these people further.
 
PK Shitstorm said:
On other news, Mandalore has come clean
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This is big because it means that if he comes up as a witness he's definitely going to be cooperative with Vin, also if he agrees to help to restore his honor then Vin already has the identity of the perpetrator (not that it'd be hard for the lawyer to find out but you know less work)
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So I had initially wanted to write a really catty/bitchy response to this, but I don't have the energy, and I've already said plenty of retarded things in this thread, but something about the document just feels.... bad? off?

1. He admits to not only not knowing anyone affected personally, but also that he doesn't even really know vinny. Now, I know anyone can lie about how they act online, but it just seems extremely careless to just take everything at face value.

2. Allegedly a 'professional in the communications field' was involved. I'm just... not sure what this means.

3. "He said I didn’t have to do it, and that he’d understand my decision." - so why did he?

4. "If I was going to share it, I should’ve clearly added a disclaimer that people should come to their own conclusions based on what they find." -I feel like this shouldn't need to be said, especially when dealing with another professional in a similar field.

5. He admits to having not even considered Vinny's perspective, and the self loathing verbiage in the document makes it seem very... well, self loathing if that makes sense.

At the very least I hope he learns from it. I do understand that someone he trusted came to him with the story, but there are plenty of people I trust that tell me shit/nonsense stories as well.

Something really really odd to me is how this document was being developed for sometime before going public. Not only does that seem really shady, it's also a bad look for mandalore - doesn't seem like you wanted to help when you're following a 'schedule' for something like this. In the Event Vinny was really a creep, how many people would have been in danger just to organize a big 'event' out of this.

Say what you will, maybe I'm salty, maybe im cynical, but something's not right about this. Still, what's don is done.
 
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DJ10 said:
Hacker 4chinz is forcing me to post these or else they'll cancel me with mean words and everything.
Some weird wiki page for Buttersluts, powerword Mim Weinkauf.
Looking at the edit history, it seems she made it herself, but I'm not sure.

Art she made for GPM
And Vinny
So there's a confirmed connection between them.
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I was retarded and thought the art was from anons, fixed it.
 
Pholidota said:
The past year has seen a huge uptick in these "allegations" it seems, probably due to covid meaning people are online more than ever. People want their minute of attention, and it's become increasingly easy to get.

We are reaching peak cancel culture. This is the point where the online entertainment community as a whole makes a decision; continue to let the mere existence of a twitlonger link destroy people's career, relationships, reputation, and mental health, or decide that enough is enough and that just because someone claims to be a victim doesn't mean they're not full of shit.

This is a guy who has spent the best part of a decade online, and has avoided any significant drama throughout. Yet one person throws together some dubious screenshots and an audio file (of literally nothing btw) and Vinny has to put his livelihood on hold and fork out for a lawyer. That is a truly terrifying amount of power over someone's life. What's to stop someone more competent nuking whoever they wish from the internet?

Hopefully we make the right decision, and I'm glad Vinny has put his foot down and stood up for himself. Too many people get bullied into apologising for their perceived slights, and end up vindicating these people further.
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MeToo has been sabotaging itself since Asia Argento was outed as an abuser herself. What we're hopefully seeing now is the trickledown effect where even B-List web celebs are getting falsely attacked, and the usual outrage spots are shockingly getting tired of it. The more they do this poorly the more we reach a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation where no allegations will be taken seriously anymore. Which sucks for real victims of sexual assault, but like the thread mentioned earlier, you need to handle that privately with the law and not some online lynch mob.

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Could you expand on that?
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A long time agao, there was a minor scandal where some editors of his left because he was a overbearing boss who pushed them too hard. He had the classic YouTube apology video but if Mark acts like that once, to the point some dudes choose to leave one of the most successful YT channels ever, then he prob hasn't gotten better. He's been haunted by the same rumors as Vin in fucking his underage fans, which he has wayyyyyy more of than Vinesauce. Lastly, a lot of people like me have a bad gut feeling to how overly nice he is. He really pushes it to the point that it feels fake, akin to a closet homosexual acting too macho, if you catch my drift.
 
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Supposed "victim's" account just went private
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Not just that account, her private/personal account is locked:
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as well as her website which featured a resume:
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and just recently she made her Facebook private:
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It happened in rapid succession that all I could save were these images.
 
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7he47r0n said:
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One of the core things that is documented and public is that "SuperMega" got mistreated and borderline abused when they used to be his editors. Mark even clarified on his regret on Facebook. If you Google it, you'll find dead links affliated with the nonsense via /rantgrumps.

When they bailed to GameGrumps, Mark was pretty much blacklisted by the Grumps and has not been featured by select circles since. In that time-frame, SuperMega was also getting a nice plug by LPin' with OneyPlays. Since than, they've (SuperMega) have gone solo and cut ties with just about everyone mentioned here.

SuperMega got lucky in this instance. They had a creative platform which was growing and place to share these problems openly with assured support. "Johnny Nobody" who edited on the cheap back in 2017? He'd never survive if he went open.
 
Man it kinda grinds my gears when people immediately jump to "false accusations make it so much harder for real victims to come forward!" As if hypothetical future people are bigger victims of false accusations than the actual person being falsely accused.
 
Pholidota said:
The past year has seen a huge uptick in these "allegations" it seems, probably due to covid meaning people are online more than ever. People want their minute of attention, and it's become increasingly easy to get.

We are reaching peak cancel culture. This is the point where the online entertainment community as a whole makes a decision; continue to let the mere existence of a twitlonger link destroy people's career, relationships, reputation, and mental health, or decide that enough is enough and that just because someone claims to be a victim doesn't mean they're not full of shit.

This is a guy who has spent the best part of a decade online, and has avoided any significant drama throughout. Yet one person throws together some dubious screenshots and an audio file (of literally nothing btw) and Vinny has to put his livelihood on hold and fork out for a lawyer. That is a truly terrifying amount of power over someone's life. What's to stop someone more competent nuking whoever they wish from the internet?

Hopefully we make the right decision, and I'm glad Vinny has put his foot down and stood up for himself. Too many people get bullied into apologising for their perceived slights, and end up vindicating these people further.
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Streaming's a really draining job too, no doubt. Especially since he has to be consistently funny for upwards of 5-6 hours a day.

Judging by last night's stream, he sounds like the wind's really been taken out of his sails by this bullshit. I can't imagine he'll be returning any time soon. Whatever scumbags are behind this shit successfully knocked him off-tempo and killed all of his momentum. Well done, dickheads.
 
We all knew that those k-pop-listening, ukulele-playing, tarot-reading whores are super racist and super sexist but it never dawned upon me that they are also the biggest proponents of the cast system, equating any consensual relationship between two people who do not share the same social standing to abuse.
 
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We all knew that those k-pop-listening, ukulele-playing, tarot-reading whores are super racist and super sexist but it never dawned upon me that they are also the biggest proponents of the cast system, equating any consensual relationship between two people who do not share the same social standing to abuse.
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If the previous screenshots are to be believed Charonian was an edgy 4channer too, and its apparently very comfy saying the word nigger despite being married to one herself, it's always the horse shoe theory with these people
 
7he47r0n said:
Could you expand on that?
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Autism Crowley said:
A long time agao, there was a minor scandal where some editors of his left because he was a overbearing boss who pushed them too hard. He had the classic YouTube apology video but if Mark acts like that once, to the point some dudes choose to leave one of the most successful YT channels ever, then he prob hasn't gotten better. He's been haunted by the same rumors as Vin in fucking his underage fans, which he has wayyyyyy more of than Vinesauce. Lastly, a lot of people like me have a bad gut feeling to how overly nice he is. He really pushes it to the point that it feels fake, akin to a closet homosexual acting too macho, if you catch my drift.
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That's a far cry from any illegal act, and the editors he's had are still his friends even after the fact (Tyler at least, not 100% on the others). As someone who only occasionally watches his channel, I can't say for sure but my observations: he works harder than almost anyone in that field, doesn't know what a "normal" workload is and expects a lot from people. My guess is he's never been told not to go into business with friends either because that's what happens. He's also not an overly nice guy, and he's never made that pretense. If anything, from what I've seen, anytime he has other people on his channel he's overtly an asshole. He's obviously playing it up for the hahas, but nothing I've seen has made me think he's anything other than normal.

I've never heard rumors of Markiplier with underage fans, if you have links I'd gladly look into that, but I doubt it.

Back to Vinny though, good for him getting a lawyer and I hope they force some kind of recant and apology out of the accuser(s). Have groupies ever considered maybe not having sex with e-celebs? That it might possibly be a terrible idea that will only hurt them? I don't know where these 19-25s get the idea that they're going to meet their favorite streamer/youtuber for sex and be whisked away to a lifelong romance as though they're the only girl for someone with a million-something fanbase and a thousand other e-thots messaging them every day.
 
The Markiplier thing is also tied to him and Supermega used to be part of a group called Cyndago along with one other guy. It was gonna be a skit channel doing live action stuff, but then the other guy ended up committing suicide. Mark took it really hard and lashed out a bit, feeling like the group had to stay together no matter what, putting pressure on Matt and Ryan. He did own up to it and apologize, so I don’t think Mark’s secretly a super evil sex pest or anything. But he does strike me as someone those types of people would go after just because he’s a successful guy. Especially since he’s stuck up for Pewdiepie and such before.
 
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