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I remember the GPM thing. What I heard was that he was begging for money for a move or "on hard times" but at the same time bought like $1k worth of pokemon cards, and that left a sour taste in Vins mouth.
It was a Street Fighter arcade cabinet that cost like $2k or thereabouts, but yeah, that's pretty much the jist of it.
It happened only a few months after GPM got added to the team, too, and from what I could tell he and Vinny were fairly good friends, since, according to GPM, he'd helped Vinny set up streaming stuff back when Vinesauce first started, since GPM had been running Datstream at the time.
 
I think I found my new favorite Joel video.
Edit: Vinny on public access
 
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Hold the fucking phone, what? Ima had a stalker? I don't think that was covered in this thread but that's pretty fucked. Are there any more details on that?
It was covered,just use the search bar. The guy even issued a thread.
Also Vin had a stalker too.
Here's the info you asked, courtesy of GhostButt, to whom, along with the thread's op, I agree: SGE95 is fucking gross and I'll need to clean my eyes with bleach or some other strong detergent.

Imakuni had(?) a restraining order on a kiwi*, so possibly.

(*not really a kiwi, just a creep who wandered in here hoping to get the forum to alog imakuni, it generated a 70 page thread full of gross nudes and irritating toddler-tier logic circling: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/starr...ell-pickens-bluegator-azuretranquility.50404/ )
 
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It was a Street Fighter arcade cabinet that cost like $2k or thereabouts, but yeah, that's pretty much the jist of it.
It happened only a few months after GPM got added to the team, too, and from what I could tell he and Vinny were fairly good friends, since, according to GPM, he'd helped Vinny set up streaming stuff back when Vinesauce first started, since GPM had been running Datstream at the time.

I wonder if the GPM situation is part of what's making Vinny so loath to make Jabroni Mike an official Vinesauce member. I mean, from Vinny's perspective, he gave a shot to a guy who's been helping him from day one, and that guy almost immediately used the new platform to solicit donations he clearly didn't need.

Even if we throw GPM a bone and say he got more than enough donations to cover his rent, so he decided to buy himself a pricey gift, why the fuck would he buy it so soon after making the donations request? He should've either let it cool off for a few weeks and then bought the arcade cabinet, or at least claimed that someone else he knew bought the cabinet for him as a gift. It was a really dumb move, especially given that he'd apparently known Vinny long enough by that point to know about his apprehension with streamers requesting donations in the first place, and the situation with Shikaku on top of it. Just an all around, mindbogglingly stupid move.
 
I wonder if the GPM situation is part of what's making Vinny so loath to make Jabroni Mike an official Vinesauce member. I mean, from Vinny's perspective, he gave a shot to a guy who's been helping him from day one, and that guy almost immediately used the new platform to solicit donations he clearly didn't need.

Even if we throw GPM a bone and say he got more than enough donations to cover his rent, so he decided to buy himself a pricey gift, why the fuck would he buy it so soon after making the donations request? He should've either let it cool off for a few weeks and then bought the arcade cabinet, or at least claimed that someone else he knew bought the cabinet for him as a gift. It was a really dumb move, especially given that he'd apparently known Vinny long enough by that point to know about his apprehension with streamers requesting donations in the first place, and the situation with Shikaku on top of it. Just an all around, mindbogglingly stupid move.
I don't think Vinesauce as a team matters much. It's not like being on the Twitch team actually gets you views, like with some other teams.
 
I wonder if the GPM situation is part of what's making Vinny so loath to make Jabroni Mike an official Vinesauce member. I mean, from Vinny's perspective, he gave a shot to a guy who's been helping him from day one, and that guy almost immediately used the new platform to solicit donations he clearly didn't need.

Even if we throw GPM a bone and say he got more than enough donations to cover his rent, so he decided to buy himself a pricey gift, why the fuck would he buy it so soon after making the donations request? He should've either let it cool off for a few weeks and then bought the arcade cabinet, or at least claimed that someone else he knew bought the cabinet for him as a gift. It was a really dumb move, especially given that he'd apparently known Vinny long enough by that point to know about his apprehension with streamers requesting donations in the first place, and the situation with Shikaku on top of it. Just an all around, mindbogglingly stupid move.
GPM's thing is definitely why there's not been anyone else added to the stream team. A lot of the associated acts that have blocks on the charity stream would be fine to bring on, but Vinsauce as a team is a legacy thing now where it's made up of people who've been streaming under the title for years. As for Mike, if I'm remembering right his fanbase didn't care for the Vinesauce fanbase at one point and Rev mentioned offhand that Mike wants to do his own thing. There's a myriad of factors, but GPM's drama probably contributed a small part of it.

As for GPM, I've been around people with poor money management skills so I have a level of empathy towards him on that one. I see less "I'm going to get these schmucks to pay for my rent" and more him getting past a money crisis, possibly caused by prior mismanagement, and then buying the shit he bought without thinking about the optics or considering that he could have forgone the plans to buy the shit he bought. Still looks bad, but people a-logging him about being a scammer when this happened was a bit too far too.
 
I don't think Vinesauce as a team matters much. It's not like being on the Twitch team actually gets you views, like with some other teams.

The main benefit would be getting on that sweet auto-host list, which mods and helpers generously receive. So yeah no need to be an actual team member.
 
The whole "Vinesauce Team" thing really just seems like a lite branding at this point, not particularly a team. I mean unless you count the charity streams- then you could argue it's being put to better use. Regarding the stalker- I must be really bad at finding info because I really should have been able to find this.

Oh- Jerma had a re-run stream today, he's given us a health update; he has a prostate infection and is currently getting more screenings done regarding that I believe he said.
 
I swear there can't be a single stream anymore without corona being brought up with fearmongering all around from chat while Vin tries his damndest to have a positive outlook on the matter. Really shows how effectively the media got everyone to whip right back around to the fabricated hysteria after the buzz about the riots started to die down.
 
I don't want to derail the thread, but still had to mention this. A few days ago, Cryaotic released a video admitting to having multiple online relationships with girls that were underage (not younger than 16). He said he didn't know their ages at the time, but that makes little sense. He's going to make a follow up video. His friends are denouncing him, the LNC is dead and his career seems fucked.

It just sucks for me, because Cry was basically the only streamer/youtuber I still watched, other than Vinny. I always liked his chill attitude and loved the LNC streams. Those were always nice to watch after a shitty day at work.

I can't stand any of the other popular gaming personalities.

Guess I only have the vinesauce team now.

This situation is why I made a tweet about Vinny getting metoo'd. I feel like, in these strange times, an accusation is really enough to destroy you. I can only hope Vinny was always careful. One disgruntled one night stand is probably enough.

Sure, what cry admitted to is messed up and I believe he deserves some of what he's getting right now. Still, he came forward admitting to this shit all on his own, and he still lost everything for it. I don't like this timeline.
 
I don't want to derail the thread, but still had to mention this. A few days ago, Cryaotic released a video admitting to having multiple online relationships with girls that were underage (not younger than 16). He said he didn't know their ages at the time, but that makes little sense. He's going to make a follow up video. His friends are denouncing him, the LNC is dead and his career seems fucked.

It just sucks for me, because Cry was basically the only streamer/youtuber I still watched, other than Vinny. I always liked his chill attitude and loved the LNC streams. Those were always nice to watch after a shitty day at work.

This is absolutely the wrong thread for this discussion, but I'll throw you a bone because I have some thoughts on the situation as well.

I too used to be a big Cryaotic fan in the early 2010s, but stopped watching him probably around 2014 for unrelated reasons (I started finding his voice annoying :story: ). I'd heard a lot about his then-girlfriend, but definitely did NOT know that she was only 16 when they started dating, so it's very jarring to have those memories of their "cute" interactions retroactively desecrated. I also enjoyed Cry because of his lowkey style and very muted humor; it was much less exhausting than listening to Markiplier scream for 10 minutes straight.

But unfortunately - and this DOES tie back to Vinesauce - this is exactly what happens when you become attached to someone you don't actually know. The act they put on in streams and videos is just that. Sure, one could argue that some streamers or Youtubers are probably not much different behind the scenes, but there is ALWAYS some degree of falsehood or a veneer being put over their real selves, and the very quiet and shy Cryaotic turning out to be a creepy predator is a perfect example of that. I don't think he plans on ending his career, but I certainly will never watch one of his videos again, and if he takes a big ProJared-style hit to his follower count and public reputation, that will be only a fraction of what he deserves.

Sure, what cry admitted to is messed up and I believe he deserves some of what he's getting right now. Still, he came forward admitting to this shit all on his own, and he still lost everything for it. I don't like this timeline.

No he didn't. He was outed on Twitter days before he released his video. The video was damage control, and he doesn't even take the blame for his actions in it - he pins it all on "his past self," saying that he "genuinely hates his past self" for doing this, as if he wasn't still engaging with teenage girls up until someone finally spilled the beans. As you yourself pointed out, there's no way he didn't know about the girls he was talking to - don't let him trick you into absolving him based on some dumb technicality. That's how these youtuber apologies always go.

That said, getting back to Vinesauce, I do believe that people who do dumb and fucked up stuff like this deserve to be raked over the coals for it. If Vinny or even Joel did end up doing some shit similar to this and got outed, I would drop them in a heartbeat. They're funny guys, and I'll always appreciate Vinesauce as a unit for being so consistently good throughout the years, but I wouldn't even bother trying to defend them if there were substantiated claims that they had committed some serious wrongdoing along those lines. As we've discussed before, parasocial relationships between streamer and fan basically create hundreds of free PR agents who will do their damndest to defend some random guy on the internet, and I'd rather not be one of those people who can't think objectively and actually analyze the information before drawing a conclusion.
 
This is absolutely the wrong thread for this discussion, but I'll throw you a bone because I have some thoughts on the situation as well.

I too used to be a big Cryaotic fan in the early 2010s, but stopped watching him probably around 2014 for unrelated reasons (I started finding his voice annoying :story: ). I'd heard a lot about his then-girlfriend, but definitely did NOT know that she was only 16 when they started dating, so it's very jarring to have those memories of their "cute" interactions retroactively desecrated. I also enjoyed Cry because of his lowkey style and very muted humor; it was much less exhausting than listening to Markiplier scream for 10 minutes straight.

But unfortunately - and this DOES tie back to Vinesauce - this is exactly what happens when you become attached to someone you don't actually know. The act they put on in streams and videos is just that. Sure, one could argue that some streamers or Youtubers are probably not much different behind the scenes, but there is ALWAYS some degree of falsehood or a veneer being put over their real selves, and the very quiet and shy Cryaotic turning out to be a creepy predator is a perfect example of that. I don't think he plans on ending his career, but I certainly will never watch one of his videos again, and if he takes a big ProJared-style hit to his follower count and public reputation, that will be only a fraction of what he deserves.



No he didn't. He was outed on Twitter days before he released his video. The video was damage control, and he doesn't even take the blame for his actions in it - he pins it all on "his past self," saying that he "genuinely hates his past self" for doing this, as if he wasn't still engaging with teenage girls up until someone finally spilled the beans. As you yourself pointed out, there's no way he didn't know about the girls he was talking to - don't let him trick you into absolving him based on some dumb technicality. That's how these youtuber apologies always go.

That said, getting back to Vinesauce, I do believe that people who do dumb and fucked up stuff like this deserve to be raked over the coals for it. If Vinny or even Joel did end up doing some shit similar to this and got outed, I would drop them in a heartbeat. They're funny guys, and I'll always appreciate Vinesauce as a unit for being so consistently good throughout the years, but I wouldn't even bother trying to defend them if there were substantiated claims that they had committed some serious wrongdoing along those lines. As we've discussed before, parasocial relationships between streamer and fan basically create hundreds of free PR agents who will do their damndest to defend some random guy on the internet, and I'd rather not be one of those people who can't think objectively and actually analyze the information before drawing a conclusion.
Thank you for the reply. Guess I successfully derailed the thread :story:

I never idolized the guy. Just really enjoyed his videos and streams. Sure, I assumed he was a nice guy, kinda like I assume Vinny's a nice guy. But I never felt like I knew him.

Thanks for some of the info. I don't know what to think, really. Part of me still believes he deserves a redemption arc. Part of me wants him to be able to make a comeback. But then I read some of this shit and I'm not so sure anymore. I'm curious to see his response and if he's going to be able to pull a projared uno reverse card. Jared, though, always denied the accusations. Jared seemed to be in an even worse situation than Cry right now, because there were actual dick pics floating around that he supposedly sent to minors. And he actually managed to escape from that.

It's going to be interesting to see how the situation unfolds. I also wonder if Cry has necked himself already 🤔

The cry shit deserves its own thread.

Okay, sorry for the derailment. Please continue as usual. Anyone heard the new red vox song?

 
After one listen to Realign, I like Ozymandias more but it's still good. Ozymandias also grew on me, so Realign probably will too once it comes up on my Red Vox playlist some more. Enjoying the new album so far though and glad to see it's back on track after the Corona took New York.

Really like what the Jax guy did with the visuals too. This is why you embrace fan works as an artist, he got the job because of a fan-made lyric video for Another Light.
 
I'm so happy to report that mods are finally cracking the fuck down on the ACAB meme shit- maybe added to blacklist. And I gotta say, censorship has never been more satisfying. Hopefully they'll just keep it to Twitter- but probably not. Definitely some people who are on the "if you don't want people spamming political bullshit in Twitch chat then you're racist" lingering around rather vocally.
 
I like it, not digging vinny's tone in this particular one, as it shows he doesn't have much singing practice as the other albums do
I am very glad to see Mike playing though
Yeah. Sometimes, Vinny's not so perfect singing actually matches the song. But in this case, I think it's too noticable. I like the instrumentals, though.

You can say a lot about Mike, but you can't say he's not a good drummer. Dude's got talent.
 
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