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Would the U.S. need to even use any foreign territory to launch an invasion on Venezuela? I mean it's just across the Gulf of Mexico, it's not like they'd be going to the other side of the world.

It is likely sour grapes from Brazil because all the staging is going on in Columbia, and no one wants to pay to use their shit infrastructure.

To answer your question, no the US wouldn't have to use Brazil or Columbia. But not only is it cheaper to ship & stage closer to the action zone, it gives Venezuela much less time to respond if we did go in.
 
Special envoy promises more sanctions for Venezuela. CITGO officially cuts ties with it's majority stakeholder, state-owned PDVSA. How the fuck that works I have no idea.
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(Reuters) - U.S. refiner Citgo Petroleum Corp is formally cutting ties with its parent, state-run oil firm Petroleos de Venezuela SA, to meet U.S. sanctions imposed on the OPEC country, two people close to the decision told Reuters on Tuesday.


Executives at the Houston-based firm set a Feb. 26 deadline to end relationships with PDVSA following sanctions designed to curb oil revenues to socialist President Nicolas Maduro and support the nation’s transition government formed by Venezuelan congress head Juan Guaido.

The United States, Canada and dozens of other nations have recognized Guaido as Venezuela’s legitimate president, but Maduro still controls the military, public institutions and PDVSA, which provides 90 percent of the country’s export revenue.


Citgo has halted payments to its parent, subscriptions to corporate services, email communications and minimized mentions to PDVSA on marketing materials and its website.

Expatriate Venezuelan employees this month returned to Venezuela and a procurement subsidiary operating from Citgo’s headquarters, PDVSA Services, was shut, the people familiar with the matter said.

A Citgo spokeswoman did not respond to requests for comment.


The company is trying to free itself of sanctions that have hampered access to financing. It is prioritizing refinancing a revolving credit and term loan by the end of July, the sources said. Credit rating firm Fitch on Monday placed Citgo on rating watch citing heightened refinancing risk due to sanctions.

“We have been told that we have to organize the house by Feb. 26 to avoid conflicts with sanctions,” one of the sources said.

A new Citgo board of directors was appointed this month by the Venezuelan congress under Chairwoman Luisa Palacios, who last week named a management team under Rick Esser, the company’s new executive vice president. New boards for PDVSA and subsidiaries, PDV Holding and Citgo Holding, also have been appointed by the Venezuelan National Assembly.

Citgo is Venezuela’s main foreign asset. It is the eighth largest U.S. refiner, with a 750,000-barrel-per-day refining network capable of supplying 4 percent of the country’s fuel through a network of some 5,000 gas stations in 30 states.

The Venezuelan congress has been researching the South American nation’s assets and bank account around the globe in an effort to gain access to cash and foreign facilities.

It is unclear if Citgo’s new board has completed a registration process in Delaware to legally take control of the company. The new board could face a legal challenge by PDVSA’s current leadership if the board was not legally constituted.
 
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Damn, can't wait for America to care (its definitely not the oil) for the Venezuelans like we did the Iraqis, and the Libyans, and the Syrians, and the Afghans. Hope u guys like your democracy MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
 
A month old article but I thought to check on what's going on in Trinidad and Tobago since it's 11 kilometer's away. Turns out, things have gone to absolute shit for them because of what's going on just across the water.


The National said:
Trinidad suffers from Venezuela collapse as pirates return to the Caribbean

As Nicolas Maduro oversees a failing state from Caracas, high seas terror spreads to Trinidad
"They came straight for us in their boat, firing their guns," says Trinidadian fisherman Candy Edwards of his run in with Venezuelan pirates. Colin Freeman for The National
"They came straight for us in their boat, firing their guns," says Trinidadian fisherman Candy Edwards of his run in with Venezuelan pirates. Colin Freeman for The National
To prove how perilous his Caribbean fishing grounds have become, Candy Edwards needs only to roll up his T-shirt sleeve. At first glance, the neat scar on his arm looks like it might be from a shark bite. Instead, it came from a predator long thought to be extinct in these waters – pirates.
"They came straight for us in their boat, firing their guns," says Mr Edwards, a wiry 35-year-old from the fishing village of Icacos on Trinidad's south-west tip. "We knew they'd try to kidnap us, so we cut our nets and fled, but they chased us right to the shore. I didn't realise I'd been hit by one of the bullets until I got home and fell down in front of my house."
Once a peaceful fishing community where the only trouble was the odd bar brawl, today all too many of Icacos's fishermen have a tale to tell of being chased, robbed, or kidnapped at sea. Yet unlike the Hollywood blockbuster starring Johnny Depp, there is little romance to this real-life Pirates of the Caribbean tale.
Rather than swashbuckling buccaneers, most of today’s pirates are penniless fishermen from nearby Venezuela, where the economic meltdown of recent years has tempted many into banditry.
As the southernmost island in the Caribbean, Trinidad lies well within the pirates' reach. Icacos is less than 15 kilometres from the Venezuelan mainland, across an aptly-named channel called the Serpent's Mouth.
In the last two years, as hyperinflation has rendered Venezuela's currency worthless, piracy attacks have taken place nearly every week, according to Esook Ali, president of the Icacos Fishing Association.
Such is the threat that in villages like Icacos, local fishermen have taken to upgrading the engines on on their fishing pirogues from 75 to 200 horsepower in the hope of outrunning the pirates. It doesn't always work, as Mr Edwards learned during a previous run-in with them in 2015.
"Their boat went much faster than ours, and they pulled machine guns on us and forced us to stop," he said. "First they they jumped on board and beat us up, then they tied up my two friends and I and took us back to Venezuela."
The kidnappers spirited them to Guiria, a once-prosperous Venezuelan fishing port where pirate gangs now operate with near-impunity. Mr Edwards and his two fellow prisoners were held hostage in nearby woodlands for seven days.
"The cage had clearly been made for kidnapping people," he said. "They would kick and spit at us whenever they walked past us. They demanded a $35,000 ransom – the community here in Icacos had to have a whip-round to pay for it."
Trinidadian fisherman Vijay Hajarie says he was detained by Venezuelan coast guard members on spurious charges of fishing in Venezuelan waters. Colin Freeman for The National
Trinidadian fisherman Vijay Hajarie says he was detained by Venezuelan coast guard members on spurious charges of fishing in Venezuelan waters. Colin Freeman for The National
The surge in ocean banditry has worrying parallels with the Somali piracy crisis of a decade ago, where once again, the problem started with jobless fishermen who took to robbing passing ships. Security experts fear it shows that like Somalia, Venezuela is now becoming a failed state.
Once one of Latin America's wealthiest countries, oil-rich Venezuela has been in crisis since 2015, when the fall in world energy prices dealt a body blow to the "Chavista" socialist regime set up by the late Hugo Chavez. With inflation now at one million per cent annually, shops and hospitals are empty of goods, forcing more than three million Venezuelans to flee abroad.
Last May, President Nicolás Maduro was accused of vote-rigging to get re-elected, while violent clashes between security forces and opposition supporters have prompted fears of civil war. In sign of the growing lawlessness, some of the piracy is allegedly being carried out by the Venezuelan coast guard, who "arrest" Trinidadian fishermen on spurious charges.
Vijay Hajarie, 53, said he spent seven weeks in a Venezuelan jail after being falsely accused by the Venezuelan coast guard of poaching in their waters.
"First they demanded we pay $3,000 on the spot, which we didn't have," he said. "Then, when they towed us away to Venezuela, they took photos of our vessel next to a stretch of Venezuelan coastline. They showed the judge the photos to prove we'd been in Venezuelan waters, and we had to pay a $500 fine to get out."
Venezuelan refugees arriving in Cedros, Trinidad. Colin Freeman for The National
Venezuelan refugees arriving in Cedros, Trinidad. Colin Freeman for The National
In the port of Cedros, a short drive along the coast from Icacos, groups of desperate Venezuelans now arrive every week, swelling the refugee population that already stands at about 40,000. Others come purely for shopping, buying nappies, rice, flour and other basics that can be sold in Venezuela for four times the price.
Holding up his smart-phone, one refugee explained the problem via Google Translate. "All high-need product in Venezuela is very expensive," the message read.
Food smuggling is not the only flourishing trade. The pirates and a minority of the Venezuelan incomers are also smuggling drugs and guns into Trinidad, fuelling gang crime in the slums of the capital, Port of Spain. Last year, Trinidad's murder rate topped 500 – a lot for a country of just 1.3 million people. Trinidad's police make regular seizures of cocaine, marijuana and guns, with some of the weapons sold onto the black market by Venezuelan soldiers and police.
Venezuela has long been a conduit for Colombia's cocaine trade, thanks partly to Mr Chavez's hostility to the US-led Drug Enforcement Agency, whose staff were ordered to leave Venezuela in 2005. In the last three years, Washington has accused several senior figures in Mr Maduro's government of drug trafficking.
While the Maduro regime has dismissed the accusations as American imperialist propaganda, law enforcement officials in Trinidad are rather less sanguine. They fear that the more chaotic Venezuela becomes, the more its neighbours will suffer too.
"As far back as 2006, people could go to Venezuela and trade a few bags of sugar and rice for a handgun," said one former Scotland Yard detective who used to advise Trinidad's police service. "Now Venezuela is even more burnt out than it was, and so even more people are getting into smuggling."
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The Trinidadian government, which maintains good relations with Venezuela and recently signed a major gas deal with Caracas, declined to comment to The National. But its own coast guard and police have been accused of not doing enough to stop the pirates and smugglers. According to Shankar Teelucksingh, a Cedros councillor, this is either due to bribes, incompetence, or an unwillingness to upset the Venezuelan authorities.
"All kinds of illegal stuff is now coming into our country," he said. "But our government lacks the will to stop it because they want to maintain cordiality with Venezuela. You can see the social impact that will have – and meanwhile, our fishermen are afraid to go out to sea."
Updated: January 5, 2019 06:15 PM

[EDIT] - I should also mention things are getting tense between Maduro's government and Curaçao which is important because Curaçao is a constituent country of the Netherlands. He's treading on thin ice on right there since the Netherlands is an actual NATO member, a founding one at that, unlike Columbia who's merely aligned with NATO.
 
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A month old article but I thought to check on what's going on in Trinidad and Tobago since it's 11 kilometer's away. Turns out, things have gone to absolute shit for them because of what's going on just across the water.




[EDIT] - I should also mention things are getting tense between Maduro's government and Curaçao which is important because Curaçao is a constituent country of the Netherlands. He's treading on thin ice on right there since the Netherlands is an actual NATO member, a founding one at that, unlike Columbia who's merely aligned with NATO.
NATO doesn't apply to overseas territories of NATO members, hell Hawaii despite being a state isn't even covered by NATO.
 
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Some Venezuelan soldiers choose desertion. I won't wait for Sean Penn's reactions to that news. https://www.apnews.com/5047b6d203bb473ea3ca704ad630b898

CUCUTA, Colombia (AP) — The simple house on a street ridden with potholes in this town on Colombia’s restive border with Venezuela has become a refuge for the newly homeless: 40 Venezuelan soldiers who abandoned their posts and ran for their lives.
The young National Guard troops sleep on thin mats on the floor. In one room, several flak jackets rest along a wall. On a balcony, boots that got wet crossing the muddy Tachira River are set out to dry.
“I was tired of people seeing me as just one more of them,” Sgt. Jorge Torres said, referring to President Nicolas Maduro’s socialist government. “I’m not.”

A high-stakes plan by the Venezuelan opposition to bring humanitarian aid into the country floundered Saturday when troops loyal to Maduro refused to let the trucks carrying food and medical supplies cross, but it did set off a wave of military defections unlike any seen yet amid the country’s mounting crisis. Over 320 mostly low-ranking soldiers fled in a span of four days, Colombian immigration officials said Tuesday.
With no relatives in Colombia, several dozen have ended up in a shelter run by a priest. The home on a street with low-hanging electrical wires is where they are nervously keeping track of relatives left behind, figuring out how to apply for asylum and deciding what should come next.
“The only way for this government to leave, unfortunately, and all of Venezuela knows it, is for there to be a direct intervention,” said Sgt. Jose Gomez, a father of two. “The only one with that power is the international community.”
 
NATO doesn't apply to overseas territories of NATO members, hell Hawaii despite being a state isn't even covered by NATO.

Hawaii is covered by look what happened to the last sorry sons of bitches who tried something with it.
 
NATO doesn't apply to overseas territories of NATO members, hell Hawaii despite being a state isn't even covered by NATO.
Even still, the very fact he's willing to fuck with the Netherlands is either gross incompetence or bravado. Could be desperation as well. Any way you look at it, it's probably not the best idea to piss off a country with a functional military and happens to be friends with America. You'd think Maduro has enough enemies as is.
 
How about you ask @Cubanodun how he likes his democracy?
Hey, much love to Venezuelan Kiwis but if they think America will do anything but turbo fuck their country into the dirt then they are mistaken. Forget about America's recent actions in the Middle East just do the tiniest amount of research into our history of regime change in South America. You're asking to be pulled out of the frying pan and tossed into the fire. I mean for christ's sake look who has been appointed as America's special envoy for Venezuela.
 
Hey, much love to Venezuelan Kiwis but if they think America will do anything but turbo fuck their country into the dirt then they are mistaken.

Jokes on you, we already fucked it, did a orgy, uploaded to Pornhub and streamed it while screaming SOCIALISM OR DEATH

Really USA could not fuck this place more that it already is, also is funny how people keep comparing us with the middle east, totally different problem in a totally different place
 
That's why I said forget about the Middle East and look at the US history of Latin American regime change. Our definition of democracy is arming/funding fanatical fringe opposition groups that then go on to commit genocide and atrocities. Look I know a lot of people on here have hate boners for Socialism because Socialism in America means acting like a faggot, but if Venezuela wants democracy it's not going to come from America. There's decades of examples to prove it.
 
Posted this in AOC's thread, but I thought this would be a better place. Be aware MintPress is notorious for being Pro-Assad.



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Wew, what an article. A lot of completely incorrect hot takes that seem to undermine any efforts to make Venezuela a better place by saying people shouldn't try and Venezuelans actually like it, undermining the United States specifically as a country, and utilizing quotes from someone who actually thinks the US is worse democratically than Venezuela. Who could write such an article, you ask?

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Hmm.

Our resident Venezuelan want to comment on our pal Norton's claims?
 
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