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Our Embassador in Irak pledge allegiance to Guaido, Chaviztas on suicide watch

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oh that brave nonVenezuelan here to tell us which Venezuelans are right thank you smart person

googling her she's some Syria shill or something?

Lebanese i think, the fact that she used a official tweet of Maduro Party make it more hilarious
 
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This 757 is on it's second Dubai to Caracas trip this week. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vp-bhm
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Gee that's an awful heavy load to put in a plane flying such a long distance all alone over open water. I sure hope it doesn't mysteriously disapear into the ocean or anything.

Can someone please just shoot this fat commie fuck already? Seriously, what does anyone there even have left to lose?

That's the one big question. I mean they have neither food nor toilet paper. It's not like it could actually get worse at this point. Even a crooked Generalisimo would at least be a semi competant leader and know enough of logistics and economics to get food in. A rather interesting piece from Townhall today reflecting that in spite of the decades of bad press, Pinochet was a long term huge boon for Chile and maybe somebody should look at Venezuela through that lens. (to be fair the writer is a long time anti Castro Cuban ex pat.) https://townhall.com/columnists/hum...nezuela-desperately-needs-a-pinochet-n2540641
That Castroite Cubans not only influence the relevant power centers in socialist-destroyed Venezuela (i.e. military & secret police,) but staff and control these power centers, must be old- hat to Townhall readers by now.

It’s been the catastrophic state of affairs for years by now: “Venezuela today is a country that is practically occupied by the henchmen of two international criminals, Cuba's Castro brothers,” declared Luis Miquilena who served as Hugo Chavez’s Minister of Justice for three years before finally resigning in disgust. “They (the Cubans) have introduced in Venezuela a true army of occupation. The Cubans run the maritime ports, airports, communications, the most essential issues in Venezuela. We are in the hands of a foreign country. This is the darkest period in our history!”

And that was almost five years ago!

Since then conditions have only worsened (if such a thing is possible.) And unfortunately history proves that Castro-Commies cannot be defeated with “referendums,” international “tsk, tsks,” and finger-wagging….sorry.

In fact, history shows that the Castroite curse can only be extinguished with a “‘heapin helping” (not of “Hillbilly hospitality”) but of its own medicine. Take the case of Soviet-Cuban satrap Salvador Allende in Chile.

Oh, I know, I know, the Fake News Media, Fake Academia, etc. all shriek and wail that the nefariously “right-wing” CIA toppled Salvador Allende!

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What a joke. In fact, the proof of the (historically pinko-riddled) CIA’s non-involvement in the ouster of Salvador Allende and his cabal of Soviet/Cuban stooges (which quickly led to Chile’s path to freedom and prosperity) is easily proven by a simple fact: it succeeded—and brilliantly!

But for pedants there’s even more proof:

"We had nothing to do with it," Kissinger told Nixon over the phone on June 1973 after an earlier (and botched) coup attempt against Allende. “It came as a complete surprise to us." Added Assistant Secretary of State Jack Rush. “My firm instructions to everybody on the staff are that we are not to involve ourselves in any way,” reported U.S. ambassador (to Chile) Nathaniel Davis, who kept hearing coup rumors from his Chilean contacts.

Then on September 16, five days after Pinochet’s successful coup Nixon asked Kissinger: "Well, we didn't--as you know--our hand doesn't show on this one though?"

"We didn't do it,” replied Kissinger.


"We’re following the example of the Cuban Revolution and counting on the support of her militant internationalism represented by Fidel Castro and Che Guevara!” boasted Chilean president Salvador Allende’s minister Carlos Altamirano in January 1971. “Armed conflict in continental terms remains as relevant today as ever!" he declared.

And he wasn’t bluffing. By the time of Pinochet’s coup, an estimated 31,000 Cuban and Soviet bloc operatives and terrorists infested Chile, including Castro’s top KGB-trained terrorist spymasters, Antonio De La Guardia and Manuel "Barbarroja" Pineiro." Among the hundreds of Soviet personnel were KGB luminaries Viktor Efremov, Vasili Stepanov and Nikolai Kotchanov.

By 1973, 60% of Chile’s arable land had been stolen by Allende’s Marxist regime, often with the aid of Cuba-trained death squads. "In the final analysis only armed conflict will decide who is the victor!" added Allende’s governmental ally, Oscar Guillermo Garreton. “The class struggle always entails armed conflict. Understand me, the global strategy is always accomplished through arms!"


Allende’s deputy economic minister, Sergio Ramos, didn’t mince words either: "It’s evident," he proclaimed in mid-1973, "that the transition to socialism will first require a dictatorship of the proletariat!"

"Stalin was a banner of creativity, of humanism and an edifying picture of peace and heroism!" declared Salvador Allende during a eulogy in 1953. "Our father Stalin has died but in remembering his example our affection for him will cause our arms to grow strong towards building a grand tomorrow—to insure a future in memory of his grand example!"

In September 1973 General Augusto Pinochet, his military colleagues and a majority of the Chilean people (Allende had won in 1970 with a slight plurality not a majority of the Chilean vote) failed to recognize Stalin’s Great Terror as a “grand example.” The Chilean legislature and Supreme Court had already declared Allende’s Marxism unconstitutional.


So with the clock tickling ominously toward irreversible Castroism, Chile’s traditionally un-political military made a (genuine) pinprick strike against Allende and his Stalinist minions.

Allende and Castro’s media minions claim 3000 people were “disappeared” during this anti-Communist coup and its aftermath, collateral damage and all. Well, even if we accept the Castroite figure, compared to the death-toll from our interventions/ bombing- campaigns in the Mid-East (that have yet to create a single free, peaceful and prosperous nation) Pinochet’s coup should be enshrined and studied at West Point, Georgetown and John Hopkins as the paradigm for effective “regime–change” and “nation-building.” Granted, Pinochet had much better raw-material to work with.


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But the Castroite –MSM figure is mostly bogus, as many of those “disappeared” kept appearing, usually behind the iron curtain.

More importantly, Pinochet and his plotters were scrupulous in keeping U.S. State Dept. and CIA “nation-builders” and other such egghead busybodies out of their plotting loop. (As mentioned, this probably explains Pinochet’s success.) Then two years after the coup they invited free-market economist Milton Freidman and his “Chicago Boys” over for some economic tutelage. And as mentioned: today Chile is probably freest and richest nation in Latin America.

But perhaps my classification of the CIA as “pinko-riddled” strikes some of my amigos as unnecessarily hyperbolic? Perhaps as even untrue? Fair enough. Let’s have a look. No, amigos, it didn’t start with Brennan. To wit:

“Me and my staff were all Fidelistas” (Robert Reynolds, the CIA’s Caribbean Desk chief from 1957 to 1960).

“Everyone in the CIA and everyone at State was pro-Castro, except [Republican] ambassador Earl Smith” (Robert Weicha, CIA operative in Santiago Cuba).

“Don’t worry. We’ve infiltrated Castro’s guerrilla group in the Sierra Mountains. The Castro brothers and Ernesto “Che” Guevara have no affiliations with any Communists whatsoever” (Havana CIA station chief Jim Noel, 1958).

“Without U.S. help Fidel Castro would never have gotten into power. The State Department played a large part in bringing Castro to power. The press, the Chief of the CIA section are also responsible…we are responsible for bringing Castro in power. I do not care how you want to word it" (Earl T. Smith U.S. Ambassador to Cuba, 1957-59.)

In fact, some of those CIA men are still fuming over my expose’ of their “shrewdness.” Writing in the prestigious international Journal of Intelligence and CounterIntelligence (Volume 27, Issue 2, 2014) the man who served as the CIA’s station chief in Santiago Cuba (the area where KGB-managed Raul Castro operated) from 1957-60 Robert D. Chapman bashes my book The Longest Romance pretty severely. But without specifically refuting any of my (highly-embarrassing to him) documentation or quotes.

Today Guaido and Maduro organized march to protest in the case of the first and to wank his little ego in the second the difference is abysmal

The Chad Guaido March

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The Virgin with rage Maduro (video)


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Yes the march of Maduro was supposed to begin at 9:00 AM, even when using all the resources of the state they could not even fill a fraction of the street

They are lying so bad that the State TV Station is lying so hard that they are putting old footage of old march of Chavez, but people that live nearby has debunked them very hard

Edit: Apparently a active general of the Air Force just rebelled against Maduro and recognize Guaido as president, they know what is coming to them and are clinging to that Amnesty like there is no tomorrow

Damn! Maduro's march looks almost exactly like a Funeral Procession!

Counterpoint, that's an airforce general. I don't know how much good his support is going to be, since an airforce isn't much good without planes that can fly

That will actually be a huge determinant in whether anybody is listening to the Air Force General. Where are Venezuela's planes? (assuming any can still fly). One of the warning signs of the Military fully turning on Maduro is when they start showing up parked on Columbian or Brazilian runways. I think it is fairly obvious at this point that the Air Force would not accept any order to bomb or attack the citizenry. But when they take steps to fully remove themselves from the internal frey will be telling. Really though it is all about the Army.

The Cambodia Vietnam War was one of the few times the commies were actually right.

Hey now don't shortsell the VietCommies. They managed to stalemate the US long enough for the US to lose will. They actually beat China twice in 2 modern wars (that nobody ever talks about for some reason) and bruised them enough to send that dog scurrying home in a third recent border clash. They have managed to convert themselves into a fairly thriving hybrid market economy, and are rapidly stealing a ton of China's manufacturing business. That is one scrappy little pack of jungle dwellers.
 
Is edited footage of older march when they actually had people, the live version was more hilarious there was a part where maduro scream "everyone raise your hand" and the footage just show people staring at the camera
Does this nigger not know it's recycled?
 
The situation with Vietnam is different. Vietnam embraced communism as a way to get out of French Indochina. It was as much of a nationalist movement for sovereignty and independence as it was a communist movement. So Vietnam modernized relatively rapidly after winning the war. Venezuela is all about throwing out the clowns that are starving their people and forcing them to flee so they can afford basic amenities like toilet paper.

I don’t expect tankies to know the difference but fuck these campus communists.
 
Let me tl;dr why this is completely different:
In Vietnam, the people in what would be North Vietnam didn't like french rule. The rest of the country wasn't too hot on the idea, but the North part really didn't like it (to summarize: when the chinese invaded, they were the first to get hit, so they became very nationalistic). In the 30's there was a rebellion that was put down by the french very harshly, built resentment among leaders who before had been at least nominally pro-french. This also caused the primary nationalist organization to be infiltrated by communists, preaching the soviet 'peasant revolt'.
What really fucked things up for the French is when the French government surrendered to Germany in WWII; Vichy France was allowed to keep its colonies, but the ones in Asia were all but fully handed over to Japan. Who as we know were not found of Those Other Asians. The end result is that for several years French civilian colonial administration had to stand by while the Japanese plundered the country and practically enslaved the local population, giving the impression that they were on board with this, earning the people's dislike. That dislike continued after the Japanese removal, with the French being blamed for the occupation. This was not helped by the fact the Vietnamese resistance, who had gotten training and supplies from Western powers to fight the Japanese, didn't feel a need to lay down arms so they could be ruled by the French.

Plus if we're being honest here, South Vietnam's government stole the election (because everyone was going to vote for the heroic figure who fought the Japanese and French and won). There was a huge PR problem in Vietnam, where you had a white country backing an illegitimate government. People who have any strong feelings about communism didn't want whitey running the country after they'd just heaved him out.
Vietnam was a complete shit show the US should never have gotten involved in; and if we had, we should have been in to win.

Contrast this with Venezuela who are occupied by the Cubans, and want their corrupt government removed.
That said, we should not send troops and the only US involvement (besides moral support) should be making sure no other country intervenes and making sure the parasitic Chavistas don't loot the country on their way out.
 
Let me tl;dr why this is completely different:
In Vietnam, the people in what would be North Vietnam didn't like french rule. The rest of the country wasn't too hot on the idea, but the North part really didn't like it (to summarize: when the chinese invaded, they were the first to get hit, so they became very nationalistic). In the 30's there was a rebellion that was put down by the french very harshly, built resentment among leaders who before had been at least nominally pro-french. This also caused the primary nationalist organization to be infiltrated by communists, preaching the soviet 'peasant revolt'.
What really fucked things up for the French is when the French government surrendered to Germany in WWII; Vichy France was allowed to keep its colonies, but the ones in Asia were all but fully handed over to Japan. Who as we know were not found of Those Other Asians. The end result is that for several years French civilian colonial administration had to stand by while the Japanese plundered the country and practically enslaved the local population, giving the impression that they were on board with this, earning the people's dislike. That dislike continued after the Japanese removal, with the French being blamed for the occupation. This was not helped by the fact the Vietnamese resistance, who had gotten training and supplies from Western powers to fight the Japanese, didn't feel a need to lay down arms so they could be ruled by the French.

Plus if we're being honest here, South Vietnam's government stole the election (because everyone was going to vote for the heroic figure who fought the Japanese and French and won). There was a huge PR problem in Vietnam, where you had a white country backing an illegitimate government. People who have any strong feelings about communism didn't want whitey running the country after they'd just heaved him out.
Vietnam was a complete shit show the US should never have gotten involved in; and if we had, we should have been in to win.

Contrast this with Venezuela who are occupied by the Cubans, and want their corrupt government removed.
That said, we should not send troops and the only US involvement (besides moral support) should be making sure no other country intervenes and making sure the parasitic Chavistas don't loot the country on their way out.

Mostly agree. There should be no direct US troops anywhere near Venezuela (beyond the usual technical observers and advisors hanging out in Columbia.). The US should however enforce the Monroe Doctrine to keep outside powers outside. And lend logistical and Inteligence support to Columbia and Brazil as needed. A no fly zone should Maduro resort to barrel bombing the civilian population is also not a bad option.
 
Mostly agree. There should be no direct US troops anywhere near Venezuela (beyond the usual technical observers and advisors hanging out in Columbia.). The US should however enforce the Monroe Doctrine to keep outside powers outside. And lend logistical and Inteligence support to Columbia and Brazil as needed. A no fly zone should Maduro resort to barrel bombing the civilian population is also not a bad option.

Yup. keep Russia from doing their little green men shit, keep china out, and toss out Cuba.
I wouldn't even say we should need to lend physical support to Columbia and Brazil unless they need to set up refugee camps on thier sides of the border. The futher we keep away from Venezeulan internal matters, the matter.

also, Lol nigga. What is Maduro going to barrel bomb the population with? What functional planes does that nigga have? What fuel does he have to fly them with now that he's cut off from Russia and US with the shittiest oil known to man?
Let me put this another way: All those gold evacuation flights - they aren't Venezuelan flagged planes.
 
Yup. keep Russia from doing their little green men shit, keep china out, and toss out Cuba.
I wouldn't even say we should need to lend physical support to Columbia and Brazil unless they need to set up refugee camps on thier sides of the border. The futher we keep away from Venezeulan internal matters, the matter.

also, Lol nigga. What is Maduro going to barrel bomb the population with? What functional planes does that nigga have? What fuel does he have to fly them with now that he's cut off from Russia and US with the shittiest oil known to man?
Let me put this another way: All those gold evacuation flights - they aren't Venezuelan flagged planes.

You do a strong show of support for Columbia and Brazil, and put some US troops on the ground there as a public show of support and to dissuade Maduro from starting local trouble in order to declare emergency in order to maintain power. Keep Venezuelan troops in Venezuela. Don't send US forces in, but don't let Maduro's out.
 
also, Lol nigga. What is Maduro going to barrel bomb the population with? What functional planes does that nigga have? What fuel does he have to fly them with now that he's cut off from Russia and US with the shittiest oil known to man?
Let me put this another way: All those gold evacuation flights - they aren't Venezuelan flagged planes.

So what's with their oil anyway? It's heavy and highly impure, but what do they have to do to make it usable? Do they even have a functional refinery infrastructure any more or did they sell it off like a bunch of crackheads, like they sold off everything else functional?
 
So what's with their oil anyway? It's heavy and highly impure, but what do they have to do to make it usable? Do they even have a functional refinery infrastructure any more or did they sell it off like a bunch of crackheads, like they sold off everything else functional?

There are a few gulf coast refineries that have invested heavily in the infrastructure to munch on Venezuela's nasty oil and make petroleum products. A big chunk of the diesel produced from Venezuelan crude is shipped to Brazil.


Venezuelan military movement on 2 of the highways out of Cùcuta. Both towns are 150+ miles back from the border, but still interesting.
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So what's with their oil anyway? It's heavy and highly impure, but what do they have to do to make it usable? Do they even have a functional refinery infrastructure any more or did they sell it off like a bunch of crackheads, like they sold off everything else functional?
Their Oil is way to thick. you cant use it alone in a refinery, you need lighter oil to mix in.

Its as disgusting as what the canadians do. Its super dirty, super expensive fuel and should be banned. Coal-liquefaction is way cleaner and the area are easyer to restore.
 
But if their oil is so shit, why were they making so much money before it all came crashing down?
 
But if their oil is so shit, why were they making so much money before it all came crashing down?

Because when the price of crude is high, it makes sense to go to the effort to process the shitty Venezuelan crude, when the price of crude falls, no-one wants it.
 
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