UN Venezuela Megathread - Mercenaries 2 references galore! Cubanodun is MVP

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Maduro has kids they've kidnapped to fight for him. That's one of the reasons I don't want a military intervention, no matter how much it seems to be the only option. I hope that, if happens, those kids are smart enough to drop their guns and surrender.
 
Turkey warned over Venezuela gold trade

The Turkish government is coming under renewed pressure to stop buying gold from Venezuela, the BBC has learned.

Turkey is now considered the main concern among the countries engaging in the trade.

There are growing suspicions that gold exported to Turkey is ending up in Iran, which would violate US sanctions.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has sided strongly with Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, who is facing a growing political challenge.

Venezuela's gold trade with Turkey is soaring. Last year, the country exported almost $900m (£688m) worth of gold to Turkey, ostensibly to be refined there and returned to Venezuela, although there is no record of re-exportation.

So the suspicion is growing that some of the gold may be heading via Turkey to Iran, which would violate US sanctions.

The BBC has been told that Ankara has received fresh warnings about potential sanctions-busting.

Moreover, Turkey is now seen by Western governments as posing by far the biggest concern regarding the trade, over and above Russia and the United Arab Emirates, both of which are also reportedly receiving the gold.

Russian and Turkish private jets appear to have travelled to Caracas in recent days. Ankara insists its trade is in accordance with international regulations.

Gold under scrutiny
The Venezuelan government is accused by opponents of extracting gold in an illegal and environmentally damaging way, contaminating pits and running organised crime networks to control small miners, often with severe violence.

President Donald Trump has signed an executive order banning US nationals from engaging in gold trade with Venezuela. That could be extended to third parties such as Turkey; the authorities in Ankara have been warned that they are skating on thin ice, sources told the BBC.

Political relations between Turkey and Venezuela have flourished since 2016, with four visits to Turkey by Mr Maduro and a reciprocal one to Venezuela by President Erdogan in 2018 - the first ever by a Turkish head of state.

It comes as Venezuela's oil revenue is starved by sanctions and a drop in the oil price, forcing Caracas to seek revenue through other means, namely gold.

Venezuela's Industry Minister Tareck El Aissami visited a Turkish gold refinery in Corum, near Ankara, last month.

One of the private jets spotted travelling to Caracas in recent days belonged to Ciner group, a major Turkish mining company, with close ties to President Erdogan.

A Venezuelan opposition MP, José Guerra, claims a Russian plane belonging to the company Nordwind landed in Caracas with the aim of transporting at least 20 tonnes of gold out of the country.
Why do the Turks have such a hard-on for Maduro all of sudden?
 
Why do the Turks have such a hard-on for Maduro all of sudden?
Erdogan and the AKP are still deathly afraid of getting ousted from power by another Gulenist-HDP-CIA coup, so they are worried a successful, internationally-recognized coup in Venezuela would set a future precedent and political legitimacy for a Turkish coup. Similar logic behind why China vocally opposes high-profile separatist movements in such distant places as Catalonia and Scotland, for fear that successful separatist movements overseas will embolden international support for Tibetan separatists at home.

Also I'm glad the Russians are stealing the national gold reserves of yet another Hispanophone Communist government for the second time in less than 100 years. They have it down to a science!
 
Ok, I give you that. Also, she's made very good videos about why populism is wrong, what Communism actually is, and others.

But... she's still a progressive and that's a problem because, as she's not a leftist, people tend to accept progressive right wing politicians and say "well, as long as we aren't starving, who cares if theyr'e advocating for abortion on demand, transitioning of kids, and gender-laws!". It's like a Trojan horse of the same shit that eventually will develop into Socialism.
The government should stop people from making mistakes.
-A right winger
 
https://nationalpost.com/news/polit...ezuela-president-over-canadian-government/amp

CUPE (Canada's biggest public employee union) just declared support for Maduro. Also heard from a friend in Kingston that CSIS (Canada's CIA) is investigating them right now.

Welp... This is gonna be interesting.

EDIT: Apparently the Canadian Labour Congress is also siding with Maduro.
:thinking:

Weird because Canada officially recognize Guaido as president, but just in case America need a wall in the north too
 
Why do the Turks have such a hard-on for Maduro all of sudden?

Its less "all of a sudden" and more they have nothing to lose by going all in.
Turkey is handling a lot of Venezuela business because they are used to playing bank for a lot of banned entities, like Iran. Their banks are well versed in keeping finance streams separate (and profitting from it). As a NATO member, they feel pretty safe from US intervention. And ever since Erdogan purged the military of secularists, the Islamist banking has grown without fear.

So Venezuela has been doing business with them, and the only reason they are doing business with them is because of sanctions. It is almost certain sanctions will be lifted as soon as the new government has control, so Turkey won't be their financial partner choice after power changes hands no matter what, they will be doing business with places closer to home. So might as well get as much funneled through your country for as long as possible, because it all stops once Maduro is out regardless.

Erdogan also has a vested interest in making sure "people deposing dictators who have tanked their country's economy by filling leadership with corrupt, incompetent cronies who's only qualification is party loyalty" doesn't become a global trend.
 
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https://www.rt.com/news/450190-maduro-adresses-americans-vietnam/

Hot take for sure.
 
https://nationalpost.com/news/polit...ezuela-president-over-canadian-government/amp

CUPE (Canada's biggest public employee union) just declared support for Maduro. Also heard from a friend in Kingston that CSIS (Canada's CIA) is investigating them right now.

Welp... This is gonna be interesting.

EDIT: Apparently the Canadian Labour Congress is also siding with Maduro.
:thinking:
CSIS is more like the FBI than the CIA, they are tasked with domestic counter-intelligence, not foreign intelligence. I believe Canada has no foreign intelligence agency as they are a bunch of cucks nice people who don't spy on anybody.

FUN FACT: CSIS was create after a series of scandals around the RCMP's security service, mostly related to Quebec separatists, including illegal break-ins, burning down barns, steeling the PQ's membership lists, etc.

Also not surprising, the Canadian labour movement is siding the Maduro. The NDP leader and several of his MPs said that Canada "shouldn't side with Donald Trump and Jair Bolsonaro".

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Also included, typical conservation with a non-Venezuelan socialist and an actual Venezuelan.

As for why these people are siding with Maduro, it all to spite the US and as to why they care so much about the US, I will quote myself:
1. [U.S. domestic politics] can affect [Canadians] greatly but they can do nothing about it, so they whine about it. Canada's defense it completely dependent on the US, and the economy is highly integrated with the US. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if future cartographers will show Canada was a 'dependent state' of the US, just like the various client states of the late Roman Republican Era.
 
Also included, typical conservation with a non-Venezuelan socialist and an actual Venezuelan.
I like the random white people supporting Maduro because they're a low IQ person who sees all the nice stuff that socialism promises while ignores all the things that actually happen, as if you have to be a capitalist or wealthy person to oppose socialism.
 
Welp, as they say, you can't smell the shit from afar can you? The other day I saw a troupe of fistfuckers proudly wearing their "Hands Off Venezuela" shirts wasting oxygen on an entire coach on the Tube. None of them seemed to have any link to Latin America for that matter, other than possibly an ayahuasca ceremony while on gap year or whatever.
 
CSIS is more like the FBI than the CIA, they are tasked with domestic counter-intelligence, not foreign intelligence. I believe Canada has no foreign intelligence agency as they are a bunch of cucks nice people who don't spy on anybody.

CSIS can conduct foreign intelligence with permission from either the Foreign Affairs minister or the Defense Minister.

The Canadian Forces Intelligence Branch source handler division (JTFX) can also conduct Foreign Intelligence with permission from the Chief of Defense Staff.
 
CSIS can conduct foreign intelligence with permission from either the Foreign Affairs minister or the Defense Minister.

The Canadian Forces Intelligence Branch source handler division (JTFX) can also conduct Foreign Intelligence with permission from the Chief of Defense Staff.
Also lol at thinking any intelligence agency keeps within its stated bounds and doesn't do everything it wants until it gets caught. (But then it gets sneakier.)
 
Weird because Canada officially recognize Guaido as president, but just in case America need a wall in the north too

Its somewhat unexpected for them to be so brazen but not unusual at all if you take history into account, socialists/commies tend to see themselves as part of an international community and have historically gone to bat for dictatorships so long as they have the right politics.

It doesn't even need to necessarily be a socialist dictatorship if they feel supporting it means supporting the cause, unions and workers parties all over the western world were opposed to any offensive war effort against Germany until the moment they broke the non-aggression pact with the USSR.
 
CSIS is more like the FBI than the CIA, they are tasked with domestic counter-intelligence, not foreign intelligence. I believe Canada has no foreign intelligence agency as they are a bunch of cucks nice people who don't spy on anybody.

FUN FACT: CSIS was create after a series of scandals around the RCMP's security service, mostly related to Quebec separatists, including illegal break-ins, burning down barns, steeling the PQ's membership lists, etc.

Also not surprising, the Canadian labour movement is siding the Maduro. The NDP leader and several of his MPs said that Canada "shouldn't side with Donald Trump and Jair Bolsonaro".

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Also included, typical conservation with a non-Venezuelan socialist and an actual Venezuelan.

As for why these people are siding with Maduro, it all to spite the US and as to why they care so much about the US, I will quote myself:
Spoken like that Canadian isn't a more affluent Canadian.
 
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