UN Venezuela Megathread - Mercenaries 2 references galore! Cubanodun is MVP

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So his saving throw is child solders, what a fucking cunt.

At this point should we have a poll for how many days maduro has left before he is dead/flees?
 
Rei is shit said:
So his saving throw is child solders, what a fucking cunt.

At this point should we have a poll for how many days maduro has left before he is dead/flees?
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He could probably end this without a helicopter ride if he does it now but his time is running short.

I'd buy that for a dollar said:
Children being kidnapped to be sent to the border as child soldiers sounds like a fucked up CIA hoax. Just sayin'
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Or social media bullshit.

Or just things being so out of hand that fucked up things are actually happening and being exaggerated.
 
AnOminous said:
He could probably end this without a helicopter ride if he does it now but his time is running short.



Or social media bullshit.

Or just things being so out of hand that fucked up things are actually happening and being exaggerated.
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Social media bullshit? The screenshot was a first hand account from my friend in Los Teques.
 
Don't they have some kind of Young Pioneers or Communist Youth League that they can use for this sort of thing? Literally snatching random children off the street... that's like scraping the bottom of the barrel.
 
Coleslaw said:
Does Maduro still have a chance of leaving Venezuela with his skin intact? Would anybody give him asylum?
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Cuba would. I think Chile said they would. Uruguay might (or was that Paraguay?). Russia might to send a "we got you, fam" message, but that's iffy; unlike the Ukraine guy they sheltered Maduro was more of a useful idiot than one of their guys.

thx1138 said:
They're in for a rude surprise if they push too hard. Venezuela fields T72s, AMX-30s and some older light tanks (AMX-10s I think they're called) plus BMP-1 and other armored fighting vehicles.
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Lol my nigga. Let's forget, as other posters have covered, that this hardware hasn't completely rusted out. The AMX-30 is a terrible tank, and I feel very certain hasn't gotten the modernization upgrades that would bring it up to battlefield effective. The T-72s Venezuela has are the shitty export models. The BMP is probably the only real threat in their inventory, principally because its likely even Maduro's appointees have been able to keep it running.

Columbia doesn't really need tanks, they have helicopters and AT-4s.
 
Foltest said:
I think that apart from being badly maintained, the training of the regular smuck in the Venezuelan army aren't up to standard. You can have the best amour in the world but still lose to someone with worse equipment, if their training is superior. I also don't think the moral in the army aren't that good either.
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I'm hoping the Army just mutinies entirely and renders the point moot.
 
Venezuelan (but heavily americanized) feminist youtuber Joanna (((Hausmann))) chimes in


She did a good job on saying things in an unbiased and succint way, which I'm sure it was a challenge to her. The problem with this chick is that she had a regular series on the Flama youtube channel called "Joanna Rants" and she would bring up Latinamerican-centric topics and would try to explain to americans. The problem is that she tries too hard to blend in and emulate that mix of condescension and arrogance that think plays well with most american leftists, especially when it comes to race. Case in point:



So word of advice, that first video was okay but still take whatever she says with a massive grain of salt.
 
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Ghostse said:
Columbia doesn't really need tanks, they have helicopters and AT-4s.
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A full-on Colombian military intervention is unlikely, as I think it won't pass through the left-leaning Congress (in spite of their staunchly anti-Maduro current administration)
 
friends o' niall said:
A full-on Colombian military intervention is unlikely, as I think it won't pass through the left-leaning Congress (in spite of their staunchly anti-Maduro current administration)
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Agreed; I guess I should have specified that.
Columbia is very unlikely to get involved now that FARC isn't a serious threat anymore. There is a chance if everything goes to complete shit they might occupy the border region to create a "safe zone" (read: refugee holding area to keep people from flooding to columbia) or otherwise participate in some sort of stabilization efforts. They have very little to gain and, IIRC there aren't any "disputed" areas they could try to annex while things descend into chaos.

More than likely the show of force was for a domestic audience worried about Venezuela doing somethign retarded.
 
Venezuelan entrepreneur comments:

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https://twitter.com/RobertoSmithP/status/1089909778653028352

Pope Francisco is worried about a "future" bloodshed in our Venezuela. I'll have him know that during his 5 years of popedom there have been approximately 140.000 murdered venezuelans, which would be about 700.000 liters* of blood.

Pardon my crudeness, but one gets really tired.
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The Pope is only worried about a socialist bloodshed, that's what he meant.

*(about 184,920.44 Gallons in 'murican units)
 
JosephTX said:
Social media bullshit? The screenshot was a first hand account from my friend in Los Teques.
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Not saying that's bullshit, just that I don't know what's happening in the entire country.
 
(((Joanna))) is a full SJW, if you ask. She's very anti-communist, which is rare for her type, but many of the things she believes are based on Marxism ideologies so... I don't know how her head doesn't explode.

Coleslaw said:
Who's he praying to?

Wouldn't surprise me if it really was God though, after all if an American Communist bit his tongue I expect he'd say "Jesus" or "Christ".
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Chavez was Christian. It's only the progressive left in Latin America the ones who are atheists. Most of the less radical believe in God and practice the religion.

Ghostse said:
Cuba would. I think Chile said they would. Uruguay might (or was that Paraguay?). Russia might to send a "we got you, fam" message, but that's iffy; unlike the Ukraine guy they sheltered Maduro was more of a useful idiot than one of their guys.
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Neither Chile or Paraguay would take Maduro. Paragua was the first country in cut any diplomatic tie with them and Chilean president is Right Wing. Uruguay recently had an incident giving asylum to a president and they turned him down, so I'm sure they'll do the same, neutrality or not.

AnOminous said:
Not saying that's bullshit, just that I don't know what's happening in the entire country.
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Venezuela, like most countries in Latin America, is very centralist, meaning their urbanized cities are decades ahead of the rest of the country. If we're seeing kids being taken in the cities, where people have access to internet and electricity, it must be way worst in rural areas where there is no one to take account.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
Chavez was Christian. It's only the progressive left in Latin America the ones who are atheists. Most of the less radical believe in God and practice the religion.

Neither Chile or Paraguay would take Maduro. Paragua was the first country in cut any diplomatic tie with them and Chilean president is Right Wing. Uruguay recently had an incident giving asylum to a president and they turned him down, so I'm sure they'll do the same, neutrality or not.
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IIRC Chavez sworn in "in the name of Jesus, the first guerrilla fighter" or something to that tune. There was even a Chavista mural at some shantytown in Caracas with Guerrilla Jesus wielding an AK-47.
As for the asylum thing, Uruguay denied the request of a dubiously centre-right Peruvian president involved in a massive corruption scandal. Mugica's government would have taken Maduro in a heartbeat, and his successor is one of the few diplomatic lifelines he's got left in Latin America.

Ghostse said:
Agreed; I guess I should have specified that.
Columbia is very unlikely to get involved now that FARC isn't a serious threat anymore. There is a chance if everything goes to complete shit they might occupy the border region to create a "safe zone" (read: refugee holding area to keep people from flooding to columbia) or otherwise participate in some sort of stabilization efforts. They have very little to gain and, IIRC there aren't any "disputed" areas they could try to annex while things descend into chaos.

More than likely the show of force was for a domestic audience worried about Venezuela doing somethign exceptional.
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Ironically, I reckon the threat of ELN and FARC remnants operating across borders would be the go-to excuse to justify Colombian involvement.
 
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friends o' niall said:
Ironically, I reckon the threat of ELN and FARC remnants operating across borders would be the go-to excuse to justify Colombian involvement.
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Colombia has been quite eager to get to Venezuela. Put it this way, Venezuela is not only that neighbor who never shuts up and constantly insults you, but the children constantly enter your garden and destroy it while the friends vandalize the whole vicinity selling drugs and praising communism.

All jokes aside, though, Colombia's been having a very serious problem with Venezuelan immigrants. Their borders have been quite flooded with people who were hungry and needy and they couldn't deal with it any more. I can understand why many people want Colombia to military intervene so they would finally have some peace. They also want to help them: "Colombia has contacted international lending agencies about devising a financial rescue plan worth up to $60 billion for neighboring Venezuela if President Nicholas Maduro leaves power, Colombia’s finance minister said in an interview on Friday."
 
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