Vehicle Maintenace General

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If you own a honda, you need a 10mm spanner, and a lug nut wrench, and you can take apart the whole car.

Seriously, tho, you need a pair of ramps (EZ to diy), a socket set, a jack stand, and a torque wrench. that's bare minumum to start doing your own stuff.
After that, I'd like to have an OBD reader, some more advanced sockets, oil pan, multimeter, and maybe some other random bits and do-bobs.
This goes out to all first timers. Get yourself an adjustable Breaker Bar and a can of PB Blaster or Liquid Wrench. Also, get a 3/8" drive 6 pt socket set. You're far less likely to strip bolts with those vs 12-points. Nothing will sour your taste for auto repair quite like a rounded bolt head in a dark crevice.
 
I had one of those dodge V6 eco diesels for a while. It was supposed to be like that, but it basically just financially ruinous instead. It had a major breakdown about quarterly and could only be serviced by the dealer due to needing a bunch of special computer tools. I had it for just shy of two years (used, low miles) and i think I spent $15k trying to keep it running before I just gave up, traded it in, and ate the deficiency on a new mazda for the wife.

I don't think I'm ever buying a Diesel again, it's really soured me on the whole deal. Maybe if Trump makes it so you can buy one that isn't more computer than engine.
Yeah. You have to be picky with diesel platforms. Labor hours are higher and parts prices are as well. Dodge has been going down the shitter for over a decade now. A family member had their transmission on a 2010's Dodge diesel truck go out within 30k of buying it new. QC is all over the place. Jeep diesels especially. A family member has a modern diesel wrangler and I'm surprised it hasn't shit the bed in the last 60k mi. IMO Euro's had it right in the 70's through the 90's. I keep one around for that reason. But they're desirable. And keep their value if they're one of the good ones. Like mk3 AAZ/AHU golf/Jetta diesels. Buggers still fetch 8k on the used market. Some are golden and last forever (VAG group, generally) some are absolute trash. (Here's to you BMW/VW pumpe-duse):drink:
 
Yeah. You have to be picky with diesel platforms. Labor hours are higher and parts prices are as well. Dodge has been going down the shitter for over a decade now. A family member had their transmission on a 2010's Dodge diesel truck go out within 30k of buying it new. QC is all over the place. Jeep diesels especially. A family member has a modern diesel wrangler and I'm surprised it hasn't shit the bed in the last 60k mi. IMO Euro's had it right in the 70's through the 90's. I keep one around for that reason. But they're desirable. And keep their value if they're one of the good ones. Like mk3 AAZ/AHU golf/Jetta diesels. Buggers still fetch 8k on the used market. Some are golden and last forever (VAG group, generally) some are absolute trash. (Here's to you BMW/VW pumpe-duse):drink:
There's several issues at play here:
1)The auto market in general is in dire need of a correction (both the consumer AND the manufacturer) but it'll never be a true one, insulated by government policy (CAFE, safety standards, and tariffs.

2) Chicken and egg issue finding good mechanic, and parts.
 
Assume I am a complete retard. What books/Youtube videos/interpretive dances should I check out in order to learn about the basics of car maintenance?
ChrisFix is the channel for beginners, watch his oil change video first. I started by learning from EricTheCarGuy years ago, his videos were mostly based around pre-2010 cars but it all still applies today.

Also, start watching the Car Wizard channel. He is good with explaining things in simple terms and he will teach you why certain repairs can cost soo much.
 
Just popped in to curse out the dumb nigger who designed Ford's windshield wiper linkage system. It's not that fucking hard to get it right, I shouldn't have to replace it two times on the same new vehicle, you fucking mongoloids.

That is all. Fuck Ford. I'm getting a Toyota.
 
Need to do a coolant flush once the weather is better and, of course, nothing in the manual about how much I need. Also, is an extra 220ml of distilled water going to make that much of a difference to 3.78L of coolant? Thank fuck for local mechanics.
That is all. Fuck Ford. I'm getting a Toyota.
You know what Ford stands for, don't cha?
It stands for... Fix it again, Tony! Heh heh heh.
 
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The EPA and the Oldsmobile diesel has ruined the potential of turbodiesel passenger cars in the US.

Kind of, but diesel is also usually more expensive than regular grade gasoline in the US which reduces the benefits of owning a diesel.
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Couple this with higher initial purchase price, and you have the main reason why diesels aren't more common in the US. 95% of the car buying public wouldn't even know what you were talking about if you brought up how bad old GM diesels were and that reputation does not persist as it isn't 1985 anymore, even boomers barely remember that small slice of automotive history. Diesel's reputation in America post 2010 is basically "oh that's for trucks right?" many people don't even know diesel cars are available at all and wouldn't think twice about buying one if they found it it was significantly cheaper (it isn't anymore because regulation drove the cost up further and that plus high diesel prices offsets the fuel efficiency). There are some affordable I6 BMW and Mercedes diesel wagons around, they're kind of hard to find and not worthless car cheap but they also are at worst only mildly troublesome and the older ones are legendary for their durability so you do have options. In my opinion no post DPF and urea era diesel is worth buying if you can't do a delete for cheap.
 
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In my opinion no post DPF and urea era diesel is worth buying if you can't do a delete for cheap.
I'd ride a fucking bike around before I bought another vehicle with a DEF system I didn't immediately plan on pulling out. After my dodge/fiat eco diesel experience I talked about up-thread I'd probably never buy one that had an any electronics on it at all. If it doesn't have a fully mechanical fuel system I'm probably not interested at this point.
 
The chevy Cruz diesels can get 50mpg on the highway, well offsetting the cost vs unleaded. You just gotta delete the def and you can risk free run untaxed diesel if you pull off the eco badging, no cop is gonna check you. The downside is they have a dedicated following and 150k mile vehicles cost ~50% of MSRP. The downside is they will cost more to maintain and even more every year, you'll still probably be better off but it's not as great as it seems initially.
 
I had 0 issues with my DPF/DEF Diesel over 60k miles. BUT I don't drive in cities, the one time it gave me the "Keep driving, need to regen" message was after a day of city driving. DEF wasn't a problem as I had a cardlock account and many of the truck stations just have a pump, for far less than the jugs.

On the other hand if you do city driving or towing or anything else that would soot up the DPF fast then it's almost certainly going to be worth the delete.
 
The chevy Cruz diesels can get 50mpg on the highway, well offsetting the cost vs unleaded.
2wd pickups could do that in the 80s. Back when Popular Science wasn't the daily mail they actually tested this:
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Unfortunately, today the driving habits of other retards require you to floor it unless your driving on a backroad unless you want to become paste on the highway. Imagine what a basic VW Rabbit with a modern diesel could do...
 
2wd pickups could do that in the 80s. Back when Popular Science wasn't the daily mail they actually tested this:
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Unfortunately, today the driving habits of other retards require you to floor it unless your driving on a backroad unless you want to become paste on the highway. Imagine what a basic VW Rabbit with a modern diesel could do...
I sure as shit ain't driving 35, 55 was already a hard ask.
 
Assume I am a complete retard. What books/Youtube videos/interpretive dances should I check out in order to learn about the basics of car maintenance?
Buy the Haynes repair manual for your make/model/year. They have detailed step-by-step directions for anything you will ever need to do and then some, along with part numbers, supply lists, and required tools. The only thing they sometimes do not have is rebuild procedures for some of the more complicated stuff. Transmission and engine swaps range from almost trivial (with a transmission jack or gantry crane respectively) to nearly impossible depending on the car; rebuilding a transmission or engine yourself is not advised unless you know exactly what you are doing. Rebuilding a carb or drum brake assembly, on the other hand, is a great way to learn and also probably practice your cussing.

The best way to learn is to buy a reliable car that's easy to work on, like a 90s-2013 Toyota or Honda, then get a membership at Harbor Freight. It will pay for itself by the third job. Build your tool collection as stuff breaks or you want to make upgrades, based on what you need for the job. Buy the cheap tools to start, and as you get more comfortable doing things yourself (and you break your tools), you will get a feel for what tools you need to upgrade and what you can live with. This procedure works far better with a second car because you will make return trips to the car parts shop, sometimes three or four times in a day. Usually with your car on jack stands and completely undrivable. If you have no experience or technical skills, and you really can't have a second car due to space or money being really tight, you're better off just having the shop do anything more complicated than an oil change. Or find a gearhead friend who is very generous with his time.
 
Just slap a CVT on there, those trucks were all 4 speeds without overdrive lmao.
It's not a matter of gearing it's a matter of work per volume of fuel, once you move past 50? Mph, 90% of what a car is overcoming is wind resistance and without a favorable shape you are trying to achieve something insane like 120% efficiency to get a square body with a .8 drag coefficient to do 75mph with 50mpg, for reference a Chinese company achieved 50% efficiency with an diesel engine in 2020 and it was groundbreaking news, and that was a very expensive commercial engine with all the bells and whistles a hobbyist will shuck because they are not very reliable.

Or find a gearhead friend who is very generous with his time.
Besides the obvious reasons it's good to have a friend to help out with things that are torteous to do it alone, a good friend will help you with keeping you sane and not putting good money after bad when stuff goes wrong. Sometimes you it's prudent to not put another couple hundred in even if you put in two grand a month or so ago.
 
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Buy the Haynes repair manual for your make/model/year. They have detailed step-by-step directions for anything you will ever need to do and then some, along with part numbers, supply lists, and required tools. The only thing they sometimes do not have is rebuild procedures for some of the more complicated stuff. Transmission and engine swaps range from almost trivial (with a transmission jack or gantry crane respectively) to nearly impossible depending on the car; rebuilding a transmission or engine yourself is not advised unless you know exactly what you are doing. Rebuilding a carb or drum brake assembly, on the other hand, is a great way to learn and also probably practice your cussing.

The best way to learn is to buy a reliable car that's easy to work on, like a 90s-2013 Toyota or Honda, then get a membership at Harbor Freight. It will pay for itself by the third job. Build your tool collection as stuff breaks or you want to make upgrades, based on what you need for the job. Buy the cheap tools to start, and as you get more comfortable doing things yourself (and you break your tools), you will get a feel for what tools you need to upgrade and what you can live with. This procedure works far better with a second car because you will make return trips to the car parts shop, sometimes three or four times in a day. Usually with your car on jack stands and completely undrivable. If you have no experience or technical skills, and you really can't have a second car due to space or money being really tight, you're better off just having the shop do anything more complicated than an oil change. Or find a gearhead friend who is very generous with his time.
I was able to find a digital copy for my car. Is an Altima in the 2007 to 2010 range feasible? I've since learned that the transmissions are prone to melting down, but it's what I've got right now.

I have no problem investing in tools. I have good tools, they're just not really directed at cars for the most part. Mostly computers and a bit of home repair. I don't have a garage (again, not ideal but it's what I've got) so that probably limits what I can do. Just the apartment parking lot. The good news is I live within walking distance of an Autozone. Technical skills... it depends. I don't think I'm mechanically retarded. I've diagnosed and repaired my own guns with no special guidance beyond "here's how to take it apart". I just have some kind of mental block with cars and I don't really understand why.
 
Yeah you'll be fine. I don't have any experience with Nissans, but all cars have their own annoying quirks, even if some are more annoying than others. Just start small: find the Fumoto valve for your car, do your own oil change next time, and install the Fumoto valve while you have the oil drained. A good starting point is the maintenance schedule in your owner's manual, though sometimes Haynes has their own ideas, and some Internet research can help a lot. Do your own cabin air filter, engine air filter, oil filter, tire changes if you live in an area that gets winter (you will have to buy a second set of rims if you don't have them already, tire crackers are way too expensive for weekend warriors and don't even think about cracking a tire without a machine), and you will already be saving hundreds a year in maintenance, and none of those require special tools unless you want to go for an impact wrench for your lug nuts--to take them off only! You should always put them back on with a torque wrench or at least by hand with a socket wrench. Blasting lugs back on with an air wrench is the best way to get seized lug nuts next season.

Once you have some experience doing the easy stuff, move onto brake pads, brake rotors, brake line flushes, coolant drain & fill, transmission drain & fill/filter, fuel filter, power steering fluid, etc. and you are doing 99% of your typical maintenance on most cars. It ain't glamorous, but it's a great way to save a lot of money (all shops are ripoffs, yes, even the good ones) and the ladies love a man who can do stuff themselves like fixing their cars :tomgirl:

Get a print manual if you can find one for a reasonable price. You will thank me when you're on a crawler under your car, covered in grease up to your elbows, wondering "where the fuck is that bolt again?" and you can just look over at the manual you held open with a hammer on one side and your 10 mm on the other. Phone stays on the tool caddy at all times, as I have learnt the hard way.
 
You have to be black or have a multiple times suspended license with a sub 400 credit score to purchase an older Altima.
Well it wasn't that old when I bought it. I've just had it for a really long time.

Like I said I'm kind of retarded about cars. Even more back then. If I had it to do over I'd get a Toyota.
Yeah you'll be fine. I don't have any experience with Nissans, but all cars have their own annoying quirks, even if some are more annoying than others. Just start small: find the Fumoto valve for your car, do your own oil change next time, and install the Fumoto valve while you have the oil drained. A good starting point is the maintenance schedule in your owner's manual, though sometimes Haynes has their own ideas, and some Internet research can help a lot. Do your own cabin air filter, engine air filter, oil filter, tire changes if you live in an area that gets winter (you will have to buy a second set of rims if you don't have them already, tire crackers are way too expensive for weekend warriors and don't even think about cracking a tire without a machine), and you will already be saving hundreds a year in maintenance, and none of those require special tools unless you want to go for an impact wrench for your lug nuts--to take them off only! You should always put them back on with a torque wrench or at least by hand with a socket wrench. Blasting lugs back on with an air wrench is the best way to get seized lug nuts next season.

Once you have some experience doing the easy stuff, move onto brake pads, brake rotors, brake line flushes, coolant drain & fill, transmission drain & fill/filter, fuel filter, power steering fluid, etc. and you are doing 99% of your typical maintenance on most cars. It ain't glamorous, but it's a great way to save a lot of money (all shops are ripoffs, yes, even the good ones) and the ladies love a man who can do stuff themselves like fixing their cars :tomgirl:

Get a print manual if you can find one for a reasonable price. You will thank me when you're on a crawler under your car, covered in grease up to your elbows, wondering "where the fuck is that bolt again?" and you can just look over at the manual you held open with a hammer on one side and your 10 mm on the other. Phone stays on the tool caddy at all times, as I have learnt the hard way.
I'll start looking into these. I have decent (though probably not amazing) 1/2" and 1/4" torque wrenches in my gun tools and I know the basics of them. I've started reading the Haynes manual and it looks like it has torque guidelines based on the bolt thread, so that doesn't look too bad. All the car parts you've described are totally uncharted territory, but I'll start reading. I'll also check out getting a print manual.
 
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