Valve introduces Steam Deck

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To me the most exciting thing about the Steam Deck is what it's going to mean for Linux stuff in the future. Only a day after people reported Yuzu's Vulkan mode not working on Steam Deck, they patched it. Linus Tech Tips reported graphical issues in Fable on Proton and that was patched within the same day according to Linus himself. I've NEVER seen Linux issues addressed so quickly. It's always "People don't use Linux enough to justify the effort. Just get WinMal 10 - 11 lol."

The Steam Deck FINALLY justifies Linux as a gaming platform. Thank god. We're going to have an alternative once Billy Gatekeeper tightens the screws on Windows 11.
 
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Bungie does not like the deck lmao.
 
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Dr. Geronimo said:
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Notice the "...unless Windows is installed ..." line, it is not Deck what they hate, it is Linux they have a problem with. This is why Valve's efforts with the Deck are important, they want game developers and the public in general to break away from Microsoft's iron grip OS monopoly in the PC gaming space. That is the true goal of the Deck: the hardware is not end, it is the means by which Valve is introducing a new audience to Linux for the first time, even people that have no intention of buying a Deck are noticing this.

It is no secret that Windows has grown ever more bloated, intrusive and Microsoft's domineering attitude towards attaining user data and metrics on this regard just keep getting worse. Valve's entire viability and relevance is at stake if they have to rely on the OS of a company that also wants to become the default marketplace for the purchase of PC games. This is why Proton exists and why Steam OS 3.0 will be made available as a downloadable distribution for PC. Valve's goal is to make Linux a viable, even preferable option for PC gaming in the future.
 
Steinercard said:
We're going to have an alternative once Billy Gatekeeper tightens the screws on Windows 11.
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Belvedere said:
Notice the "...unless Windows is installed ..." line, it is not Deck what they hate, it is Linux they have a problem with. This is why Valve's efforts with the Deck are important, they want game developers and the public in general to break away from Microsoft's iron grip OS monopoly in the PC gaming space. That is the true goal of the Deck: the hardware is not end, it is the means by which Valve is introducing a new audience to Linux for the first time, even people that have no intention of buying a Deck are noticing this.

It is no secret that Windows has grown ever more bloated, intrusive and Microsoft's domineering attitude towards attaining user data and metrics on this regard just keep getting worse. Valve's entire viability and relevance is at stake if they have to rely on the OS of a company that also wants to become the default marketplace for the purchase of PC games. This is why Proton exists and why Steam OS 3.0 will be made available as a downloadable distribution for PC. Valve's goal is to make Linux a viable, even preferable option for PC gaming in the future.
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There's kind of a problem though.
The standardized stable API for games on Linux IS THE WINDOWS API.
Linux has window system, library linking and sound related shit you have to tangle with if you want to port games natively. Proton et al is a big deal but it's still at the whims of M$.
 
Dr. Geronimo said:
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Fuck Destiny 2. I'd rather play any Russian grind game (EFT, WOT, WT) than play nuBungie's gay ass Halo-wannabe (and I'd fucking argue that comparing them to D2 is an insult to any of them since they have some form of replayability). D2 is a shit investment skinned as a "game", where content can disappear like in a shitty bank, while forcing to continuously pay up for new content that is basically reskinned garbage, with lore that is taken straight from other sources of fiction like the Vex being shittier versions of nuHalo's Prometheans and a payment system that would make R6S's system look tame in comparison. It is basically LARPing as a F2P game but it is a subscription-based game in reality + some lootbox garbage with the Eververse.

Oh and their naming scene screams "The 'cool-thing-seen-in-other-science-fiction-shit'" levels of boring. Tedium is Destiny and I recommend you stay the fuck away from anything remotely related to it, the fanbase is a complete lost cause.
Coolio55 said:
There's kind of a problem though.
The standardized stable API for games on Linux IS THE WINDOWS API.
Linux has window system, library linking and sound related shit you have to tangle with if you want to port games natively. Proton et al is a big deal but it's still at the whims of M$.
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Surprise surprise, Linux users thinking they got the upper hand with Linux when they're just puppets to the Microshit machine. The PC system war already lost and Linux is just an open-source alternative that MS secretly has its' monkey paw in.
 
Aperture Desk Job came out yesterday, it's another tech demo game like Aperture Hand Lab but a lot more interesting.

The game gives off some Harry101UK (Portal Stories: Mel guy) fan mod vibes, mainly because of the new Core character.
 
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Jordi El Nino Polla said:
Lol the Deck cult get so mad every time over the smallest things.
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I mean if referring to the D2 stuff with Windows. I can see why.

Having something not be supported is fine. Most people realise that they're buying a PC rather than a console, and as such, there's going to be cases where something just won't run for a multitude of reasons. If it was just "it can't run" or "it will not run because it may compromise anti-cheat or something else", then it'd be fine.

Going out of your way to deliberately sabotage your product is shitty though. Especially considering that it's not a matter of piracy or console-exclusivity. A PC is a PC, why should game developers give a shit what type of PC it is or what OS you run (outside of specific reasons like an OS which somehow gets around multiplayer security)
 
Welsh Catgirl Enjoyer said:
I mean if referring to the D2 stuff with Windows. I can see why.

Having something not be supported is fine. Most people realise that they're buying a PC rather than a console, and as such, there's going to be cases where something just won't run for a multitude of reasons. If it was just "it can't run" or "it will not run because it may compromise anti-cheat or something else", then it'd be fine.

Going out of your way to deliberately sabotage your product is shitty though. Especially considering that it's not a matter of piracy or console-exclusivity. A PC is a PC, why should game developers give a shit what type of PC it is or what OS you run (outside of specific reasons like an OS which somehow gets around multiplayer security)
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The issue for a lot of these companies is they like to call their drm "anti-cheat" software. In some instances, it serves both purposes, but there are a lot of games that are broken in proton right now because the anti-cheat software is basically a rootkit, and Linux isn't as much the gaping whore that Windows is.

These noble game publishers are just thinking of the player! You wouldn't want to lose all those skins you bought (starting at $4.99 a pop), because you wanted to play on a a new device! Believe us, there probably aren't security holes in this anti-cheat software you need to play a single player campaign/game.

That Valve / Codeweavers / the community have been able to get so many games to work already is a testament to the ingenuity of man and the usefulness of capital to support projects.

You can like or hate the Deck, but offering a relatively open path is a good thing in terms of proton and steamOS.
 
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Going out of your way to deliberately sabotage your product is shitty though. Especially considering that it's not a matter of piracy or console-exclusivity. A PC is a PC, why should game developers give a shit what type of PC it is or what OS you run (outside of specific reasons like an OS which somehow gets around multiplayer security)
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Dixieland Buckaroo said:
The issue for a lot of these companies is they like to call their drm "anti-cheat" software. In some instances, it serves both purposes, but there are a lot of games that are broken in proton right now because the anti-cheat software is basically a rootkit, and Linux isn't as much the gaping whore that Windows is.
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This is why you should never support a company that actively goes out of their way to treat the customer like a piece of shit. Anti-cheat software, especially DENUVO, is anti-consumer. DRM in general is anti-consumer. Banning people for trying to find work-arounds for different hardware to play your game is anti-consumer.
 
SSF2T Old User said:
Anti-cheat software, especially DENUVO, is anti-consumer. DRM in general is anti-consumer.
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Can't say I agree with anti-cheat software in general being anti-consumer. It's basically a necessity for some games in order to maintain the online component since otherwise you just end up having the whole thing ruined by hackers (I think that's what happened with Titanfall). But in general yeah, these games should only be doing what is necessary in that department and no more.

I'm fine with having an anti-cheat installed for a game like R6S so that the game's online remains actually playable, but I don't want to have them go full Valorant and start installing themselves as ring-zero anticheat that automatically launches on boot with Windows.
 
Welsh Catgirl Enjoyer said:
Can't say I agree with anti-cheat software in general being anti-consumer. It's basically a necessity for some games in order to maintain the online component since otherwise you just end up having the whole thing ruined by hackers (I think that's what happened with Titanfall).
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Some weird guy ddosed players in Titanfall. DRM does absolutely nothing to protect you.
And the only reason that affected things that much was because Titanfall didn't offer dedicated servers so people can run their own.
 
Been using linux daily since 2014, still recommend windows for gaming unless you deliberately go out of your way to buy games that work on linux/proton
 
Nate Higgers-in Minecraft said:
Been using linux daily since 2014, still recommend windows for gaming unless you deliberately go out of your way to buy games that work on linux/proton
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Qemu has gotten really good at virtualizing Windows recently though (I'm talking <5% loss of performance here). If you have an octa-core and an AMD card you can just sandbox that motherfucker and use it only when there's something proton cannot run without any substancial differences in performance.
Of course you are out of luck if you wanna play online games due to anticheat software but hey, linux is in a better position now than it was back in 2014 and if this futile effort of Valve to increase adoption does something then it's gonna get even better.
 
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Belvedere said:
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Notice the "...unless Windows is installed ..." line, it is not Deck what they hate, it is Linux they have a problem with. This is why Valve's efforts with the Deck are important, they want game developers and the public in general to break away from Microsoft's iron grip OS monopoly in the PC gaming space. That is the true goal of the Deck: the hardware is not end, it is the means by which Valve is introducing a new audience to Linux for the first time, even people that have no intention of buying a Deck are noticing this.

It is no secret that Windows has grown ever more bloated, intrusive and Microsoft's domineering attitude towards attaining user data and metrics on this regard just keep getting worse. Valve's entire viability and relevance is at stake if they have to rely on the OS of a company that also wants to become the default marketplace for the purchase of PC games. This is why Proton exists and why Steam OS 3.0 will be made available as a downloadable distribution for PC. Valve's goal is to make Linux a viable, even preferable option for PC gaming in the future.
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I'm glad the Linux market is increasing. Windows 10 and 11 are buggy pieces of shit and I want an alternative.
 
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