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[Party Hat Wurmple]

Does Trump have any basis to appeal this non-jury-trial that seized his businesses? If we're bending the rules this much why not lean into the 14th amendment (Equal Protection Clause) and try to find a sympathetic circuit judge or go to the supreme court? Or for that matter the 1st since they're doing this to a presidential candidate a year out from the election.

How did this happen without a jury, anyway?

Yes. What this judge did isn't just unconstitutional, it's actively criminal. Now that being said, it will absolutely get overturned on appeal. That's not the point. The point is to sling shit at the wall and eventually it sticks. They won't get away with it for Trump but the next 4-5 times they try, they eventually will.

The problem is as we've seen with many Lolsuits, there is no recourse for shitty, lazy, or criminal judges. They get a slap on the wrist and nothing happens to them. What happens in the good timeline, is either RICO charges or some brave soul decides to send a message to the rest of the judges to make them think twice about attempting this. But we're not in the good timelines.

The Republicans could literally go after every single Democratic politician, every single lefty lobbyist, every single corporation that ever shat on conservatives chasing the ever-valuable faggot tranny niggercock customer base. Every single person to the left of Thomas Sowell could be targeted with this, easily.

You don't seem to understand the Republicans aren't the good guys. They're on the same side. The ones that aren't are threatened until they cuck into compliance or they're disposed of. There's a couple of outliers that are useful permitted opposition but the rest are obedient dogs.

The US drew the ire of the world because the very existence of it is a threat to the world. The idea of a free country by and for the people is a threat to every totalitarian regime and must be destroyed by any means necessary. That's why these old cronies like McConnell and Pelosi are still in power. It's not that they want to be there. They're not allowed to retire. The moguls overseas that bought and paid them also own them for life.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Didn't the last one kill itself?

No that famous picture of the bot that drowned in a fountain was a glitch.

Though that said we already have the precedent that robots can kill criminals thank to San Francisco. And the US Police Forces have already used drones to kill people before, specifically they used the "claymore roomba" strat to get rid of the BLM sniper that was killing cops in Dallas in 2015 (remember that? Bet you didn't. Got real burried so BLM would be useful again in 2020).

 

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To be really nasty about it, why the fuck is the GOP not looking at this newly popped cherry and raw-dogging the Dems back?

Because about 4/5ths of the GOP are either corrupt and just want to grift using their positions, are completely incompetent, or are Democrats pretending to be Republicans to keep actual Republicans out.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Tonights the GayOP debate for the JV team in California, and Trump is also speaking to the UAW tonight in Michigan.

It's telling that even the GOPe fags Gay & Cuck are now admitting Trump is the nominee and the others are second-ran, Fox is apparently slashing ad rates for the debate due to lack of interest, and you'll probably see the last thrashings of Meatball and Pence tonight as they just go full mask off and say DC courts are totally legit and Trump totally legitimately lost in 2020 and ackshually he did nothing on the border. Of note, Chamber of Commerce cocksucker Asa Hutchinson did not qualify for the debate, so there will be only 7 on stage.

 

[draggs]

Trump getting cheered on a UAW picket line is a massive seethe generator. It's hilarious

 

[clipartfan92]

NBC News Poll: Republicans have advantages on immigration, crime and the economy

But independent voters polled agree that Republicans are better at dealing with crime (by 19 points) and with the economy (by 25 points). Independents also agreed that Democrats are better at dealing with abortion (by 20 points), education (by 11 points) and looking out for the middle class (by 10 points), though by smaller margins than they gave Republicans in dealing with crime and the economy.

Topline results PDF (archive.org)

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

At best Trump's re-election would be a release valve to conservatives to calm the fuck down and give (((the elite))) wiggle room to get Newsome or Warren ready for 2028 while doing another controlled demolition ops on the economy to buy them more time if not to trigger the economic collapse on Trump's watch to scapegoat him.

They can't - not anymore, at least.

All their efforts were either to run a smokescreen over their own side or to delegitimize the only opposition who could pose a threat to the efforts of their masters to ram through the sort of institutionalized change that would be impossible to roll back.

I'm not saying it's the End Times, but...it's the End Times.

 

[Nottafed]

Trump getting cheered on a UAW picket line is a massive seethe generator. It's hilarious

if anyone has video, I could use some cheering up

 

[dustbuster]

there is no recourse for shitty, lazy, or criminal judges.

There is actually.
The insurrection act has clauses covering "under color of law"
The RICO act has clauses covering public officials on the payroll abusing their offices.
Further, there are anti-communist laws that are still on the books, and our feckless GOP has finally managed to notice the elephant in the room that is CCP bribery.

All it takes is a purge and restaff at the DOJ with a new mandate.
Trump has already been shouting about how he intends to do just that.

 

[Sebastian Bacchanalia]

I AM NO LONGER CAPABLE OF HANDLING WINNING AT THESE LEVELS MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A group of Republicans will march onto the debate stage Wednesday night to argue that each of them could stave off another Donald Trump defeat against President Joe Biden.
Polling increasingly shows it’s not true.

Far from being an electoral liability, the former president is starting to lead — or at the very least tie — Biden in general election polling.

Spoiler: MAGA!

Not only is Trump the top choice of a growing majority of Republican primary voters in national surveys, but Republicans overwhelmingly think he’s the candidate with the best chance of beating Biden next fall. And poll after poll suggests Biden and Trump are essentially tied with just over a year until the general election.
That undermines many of the arguments Trump’s rivals made last month at the first debate. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis called on Republicans not to focus on the 2020 election and instead to “look forward” and adopt “the message that can win in November of 2024.”
Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who’s vaulted to third place in the polls behind only Trump and DeSantis, went further.
“We have to face the fact that Trump is the most disliked politician in America,” she said. “We can’t win a general election that way.”
So as seven of Trump’s lower-polling rivals prepare to take the stage in Southern California, let’s look at how the race has changed from the first debate and what to make of the “Trump won’t win” case still being peddled by his opponents.

GOP voters continue to see Trump as the most electable candidate, but DeSantis and Haley have cases to make​

DeSantis and Haley may be trying to convince Republicans that they’re better bets to oust Biden next November, but so far GOP voters aren’t buying it.
A Monmouth University poll out this week asked Republican voters whether they saw Trump as the strongest Republican candidate for beating Biden: Nearly half, 48 percent, said Trump “definitely” was the strongest candidate, and another 24 percent said he was “probably” the strongest. That combined 72 percent marked an increase from 63 percent who thought Trump was the strongest candidate in May.
Only a quarter of Republicans, 25 percent, said another Republican would “definitely” or “probably” be a stronger general-election candidate than Trump.
That doesn’t mean DeSantis and Haley are going to cede the electability argument in the second showdown.
A pre-debate memo authored by DeSantis campaign manager James Uthmeier called the Florida governor “the only candidate that can beat both Joe Biden and Donald Trump,” a nod to DeSantis’ second-place position and generally positive image with Republican primary voters.
In this week’s NBC News poll, even though DeSantis trails Trump by a yawning 43-point margin, 59 percent to 16 percent, he’s still the second choice of 37 percent of Republicans. When first- and second-choice votes are added together, Trump is at 70 percent, but DeSantis isn’t too far behind with 53 percent. No other candidate is even above 20 percent.
The latest RealClearPolitics averages show Biden leading DeSantis by 2.5 points nationally, compared to Trump’s 1.5-point lead over Biden. Still, the president isn’t elected by national popular vote, and DeSantis — who won a landslide reelection victory in Florida last year — could be better equipped to claw back some of the Sun Belt states Trump lost to Biden in 2020, like the traditionally Republican states of Arizona and Georgia.
Haley potentially has a stronger electability case to make, based on the polling. She isn’t offered as often as Trump or DeSantis by pollsters as a Biden opponent, but a sparse RealClearPolitics average shows Haley leading Biden by 4.3 points.
Haley actually had a slight lead over Biden in the NBC News poll, 46 percent to 41 percent, compared to a tied race between Biden and Trump and an insignificant 1-point Biden lead against DeSantis. Her campaign touted that result in a press release on Tuesday, calling Haley “the only candidate who handily beats” Biden, and viewers should expect to hear the same message in this debate.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/27/trump-challengers-electability-polls-00118389

https://archive.ph/FU4rJ

 

[make_it_so]

To be really nasty about it, why the fuck is the GOP not looking at this newly popped cherry and raw-dogging the Dems back?

Because the GOP is an inept institution led by inept people that think it's still 2005 and that just repeating the right combination of "respectable" Bushite conservatism talking points about the free market and "protecting freedom abroad" will bring them to victory.

 

[The Man With No Name]

To be really nasty about it, why the fuck is the GOP not looking at this newly popped cherry and raw-dogging the Dems back?

The courts will not play ball. Suits would be thrown out instantly from the right. This is a common issue, government institutions are taken over by leftists because 1. It's their ethos to do so and 2. The right wing (correctly) believes government is corrupt and that non-participation in it makes it less powerful (somewhat correct)

Corruption of organizations like this rise and fill to the brim with bloated, useless people who serves no purpose but to become bureaucratic speed bumps. Courts are a spook.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

https://nitter.privacydev.net/zerohedge/status/1706852979444236489

Guess the CIA paid off Mayo Clinic... (they were paying off scientists to say COVID didn't come from China)

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

There was a point right after the midterms where DeSantis had a very real chance of primaring Trump. Man did he screw things up, it makes me wonder if DeSantis Governorship was just a fluke.

 

[dustbuster]

There was a point right after the midterms where DeSantis had a very real chance of primaring Trump. Man did he screw things up, it makes me wonder if DeSantis Governorship was just a fluke.

DeSantis is extremely effective because he's a sperg immune to peer pressure and a machiavallian.

This is also his weakness.
He thought he could leverage the old guard, but was too socially retarded as a sperg to realize the people staffing his campaign were alienating the base.

Only a severe fucking sperg would hire people that call your target demographic "cultists"

 

[northstar747]

Because the GOP is an inept institution led by inept people that think it's still 2005 and that just repeating the right combination of "respectable" Bushite conservatism talking points about the free market and "protecting freedom abroad" will bring them to victory.

my take on it is this.

As pointed out in the john stewart thread in A&N.

When your ideological opponents support the black baging of men off the street in Iraq and Afghanistan, water boarding them and holding them in Gitmo....Its not a hard moral stance to be all

"I dont think we should be doing that"

The great war on terror spent the GOP and conservative movements political and socail capital. Sadly the leftist voters didnt really care. the whole "There our JETS now"

Obama promised change we got Business as usual.

Trump fucking tells a member of cabnet who lost his son in the GWOT, it was a fucking waste, says in a speech about the great waste of "american blood and treasure" for the senseless war.

Combine that with SM interfering in the culture war. Conservatism is a bunch of blood lusting war mongers.

The other issue with conservatives is the holding on to a perversion of the reagen dogma that the goverment and its organs and institutions can NEVER BE USED TO FIX PROBLEMS EVEN IF THEY PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY THOSE VERY INSTITUTION

Basically you get a political party that says "WE CANT USE THE GOVERMENT TO GOVERN THAT NEVER WORKS!!"

Honestly the GOP could just start screaming "DRILL BABBY DRILL" Yell how corrupt biden is, yell about the media. Scream about "rule of law" etc etc.

 

[Some Dumb Faggot]

DeSantis is extremely effective because he's a sperg immune to peer pressure and a machiavallian.

This is also his weakness.
He thought he could leverage the old guard, but was too socially retarded as a sperg to realize the people staffing his campaign were alienating the base.

Only a severe fucking sperg would hire people that call your target demographic "cultists"

He really started to go down hill after announcing run which is when he started spouting the typical Rino drivel. In my opinion it's the opposite, he caves to peer pressure which is why the Rinos backed him.

 

[dustbuster]

Conservatism is a bunch of blood lusting war mongers.

You can take the blindfold off now and pay attention to the influencers who are the voice of the actual right's base any time, pal.

On twitter these are DC_Draino, catturd2, BasedMikeLee, Jackposibiec, martyrmade, oilfield_rando, and MattGaetz

The rest of the dusty old men are working with the democrats to push WWIII and siphon our entire tax base to buy cluster bombs for ukraine. If you paid attention in 2022, you'd notice their ilk barely slithered back into both houses despite them siphoning every dollar from candidates in the America First camp to vastly over-fund their campaigns in "safe" seats, and the new wave they're fighting still nearly won despite massive and overt fraud still being fought in a corrupt judiciary.

There are not 2 parties in this country, there are 3: The woke commies, the Chamber of Chinese Commerce puppets, and America First.

 

[Garm]

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I've lost count of how many times satire has become reality at this point.

Hobo's will be using that as a toilet by the end of the week.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Hobo's will be using that as a toilet by the end of the week.

Man, it's gonna be weird in the future when we get real AI and our robot buddies start posting racist remarks and attacking junkies with laser swords and shit.