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Brahma said:
In my many flirtations with deism I concluded that if any force we could reasonably interpret as God existed, it would be outside of our ability to understand. I try not to worry about it though.
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Assuming the general idea that we are in gods image is accurate, that would imply that god understands to not tip the cows while watching for new milk.
 
The Ugly One said:
Sometimes I wonder, if there's a God, why doesn't he immediately pitch us all into a fiery lake of everlasting torment?
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Brahma said:
In my many flirtations with deism I concluded that if any force we could reasonably interpret as God existed, it would be outside of our ability to understand. I try not to worry about it though.
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If you want to cut through the surface level Sunday School type deal, the Christian God is a being who exists outside of our physical reality and relates to us much the same way a 3D being would relate to a 2D being. Maybe 4D would be a better example, as I'm pretty sure linear time is just not a thing to God. Eternal is not the same thing as infinite, even if they're some overlap. We can understand on some level, but never the whole. It's good question and one the Psalmist asked once, "What is man that you are mindful of us?" An interesting thing is that the old Pagan gods were often "Man writ large," incredibly powerful but still fundamentally human in behavior, while in Christianity, and I assume Judaism but I won't speak for them, is that Humans are more God writ finite, limited, and physical. That's the Likeness part, Tolkien would have told you that's where our subcreative impulse comes from, because God seems to like to make things.

The Christian God is not bearded old man on a cloud, He's something far, far more alien than we can comprehend. He seems to care about humanity, for reasons entirely His own, but He's also willing to let us fuck up, see the Parable of the Prodigal Son. The more I think about and ponder the nature of God, the more questions I have, which doesn't bother me because no God worth worshipping would be capable of me completely grasping.
 
I don't know if this has been mentioned or not, apparently the House passed a bill to legalize marijuana recreationally at a federal level. Unlike the Ukraine funding omnibus bull shit, this one is relatively void of extra fat. The only thing that kind of raises a bell is the opening few paragraphs and the "reinvestment" segment. The later is only a problem because it sounds like another way to line the pockets of another politician rather than actually implement a satisfactory system. Here is a link to the bill itself, we'll see if it passes Senate.


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It smacks of desperation. "don't vote us out."
 
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Absurdist Laughter said:
I don't know if this has been mentioned or not, apparently the House passed a bill to legalize marijuana recreationally at a federal level. Unlike the Ukraine funding omnibus bull shit, this one is relatively void of extra fat. The only thing that kind of raises a bell is the opening few paragraphs and the "reinvestment" segment. The later is only a problem because it sounds like another way to line the pockets of another politician rather than actually implement a satisfactory system. Here is a link to the bill itself, we'll see if it passes Senate.


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It smacks of desperation. "don't vote us out."
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I doubt it'll pass the senate but who knows? It's a pretty naked ploy for any achievement to point towards.
 
Ruin said:
If it's so incredibly difficult and borderline impossible to rig an election how did 2020 happen exactly?
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You sound like those same people that were raging over Russiagate in 2016.

2020 happened because of fear mongering, social media, ignorance and political leverage.
 
More AWS-8Q Than You said:
I’m pretty sure linear time is just not a thing to God.
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Pretty much this. There’s scripture that backs it up to.

“For a thousand years in Your sight Are like yesterday when it passes by, Or as a watch in the night*.”
- Psalm 90:4

“But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.”
- 2 Peter 3:8

*A watch in the night is a phrase that denotes a few hours.
 
soy_king said:
yeah... disagree. you're talking about a history ending event dreamt up by a weird hermit living on an island, when civilizational decline is a tale as old as time.
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You may be thinking of Revelation end-times interpretations, but Romans is very much a "civilizational decline is a tale as old as time" message, and the final moral is "THEREFORE, don't act surprised when it happens AGAIN because you know the pattern and still won't learn." The moment you are like "actually, I think I can make better moral judgments than my forefathers and definitely better than God," you are on a path to a violent explosion.

The Ugly One said:
Sometimes I wonder, if there's a God, why doesn't he immediately pitch us all into a fiery lake of everlasting torment?
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"The Lord is slow to anger and great in power, and the Lord will by no means clear the guilty." - Nahum 1:3
"The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance." - 2 Peter 3:9
"For the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God." - James 1:20

It is a great question and one that fills me with awe.
 
Absurdist Laughter said:
I don't know if this has been mentioned or not, apparently the House passed a bill to legalize marijuana recreationally at a federal level. Unlike the Ukraine funding omnibus bull shit, this one is relatively void of extra fat. The only thing that kind of raises a bell is the opening few paragraphs and the "reinvestment" segment. The later is only a problem because it sounds like another way to line the pockets of another politician rather than actually implement a satisfactory system. Here is a link to the bill itself, we'll see if it passes Senate.


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It smacks of desperation. "don't vote us out."
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Well, at least they are even doing it correctly:
the Attorney General shall finalize a rulemaking under section 201(a)(2) removing marihuana and tetrahydrocannabinols from the schedules of controlled substances. For the purposes of the Controlled Sub- stances Act, marihuana and tetrahydrocannabinols shall each be deemed to be a drug or other substance that does not meet the requirements for inclusion in any schedule.
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Descheduling marijuana entirely is the only way legalization will work and I’m honestly impressed they included that aspect. They must have hired a specific group of very smart lobbyists to write this. There is no way the Dems did it right on their own.
 
All this talk about God.

I'm not particularly religious, but I do believe and for whatever the fuck it's worth, try to practice a Christian belief in my daily life.

The old WWJD. The end times may well be approaching. Haven't seen the four horsemen of the Apocalypse riding through my neighborhood as of yet, but see it with society as a whole.

Peeps really need some Jesus in their lives. But he's been abandoned. And unfortunately every day I read this thread, everyday I understand what this administration is doing to hasten the demise of America, it's just another little piece of my beliefs and soul dying.

Sad Slappy. 😔
 
I'm not a christian and don't think god is real. But I did grow up in the church and did bible quiz.
 
deeplyhigh said:
Well, at least they are even doing it correctly:


Descheduling marijuana entirely is the only way legalization will work and I’m honestly impressed they included that aspect. They must have hired a specific group of very smart lobbyists to write this. There is no way the Dems did it right on their own.
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It's still bizarre to me that marijuana is scheduled so high. I'm not exactly pro marijuana but there is no reason in the world marijuana should be scheduled higher than opioids.
 
Dr. Ricearoni said:
It's still bizarre to me that marijuana is scheduled so high. I'm not exactly pro marijuana but there is no reason in the world marijuana should be scheduled higher than opioids.
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because the schedule of drugs is decide by congress and not the medical community.

Also look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppers

IT was a RX drug for 20 plus years and the FDA decided there was no need to regulate it since there was not a single case of ODing

Then boom turns out gays liked to party with it and boom its a problem.

By the way the US's schedule system is a feature not a bug.
 
Trump's in Michigan now, didn't know about it, saying if you have to have illegals in the country put them in the liberal enclaves:

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