UN US Midterm Elections 2018 Megathread - Blue Wave or Red Tsunami? Because you know we need one.

ICametoLurk · Oct 26, 2018

millais · Oct 26, 2018

ICametoLurk said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=25IPYbqR7yo

not an instant classic of an interruption, unlike the 2016 "Pepe" incident

frozenrunner · Oct 26, 2018

Maxliam said:
Oh man, imagine if he ran with Pocahontas. The salt will become lethal levels.

Pocahontas and Chief Firewater.

Maxliam · Oct 26, 2018

frozenrunner said:
Pocahontas and Chief Firewater.

Ironically Beta probably is more in touch with injuns because of his affinity for copious amounts of firewater he likes to drink.

heathercho · Oct 26, 2018

Texas voting machines changing some straight-party selections

By Ted Oberg
Thursday, October 25, 2018 07:07PM
HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) --
Voters are reporting odd problems on both the Republican and Democratic side of straight-party voting in Texas.

Mickey Blake was one of the voters in those early voting lines in Houston earlier this week.

"I hit straight Democratic ticket," Blake said.

She says she expected all Democrats to come up on her screen, especially Rep. Beto O'Rourke, but when she got to the last screen to review her choices, she noticed a problem.

"It's all Democratic except for Ted Cruz was checked," Blake said.

So she backed up and did it again. And again.

"I tried it a third time and the same thing happened," she said.

The same thing happened to Cordell Hosea in Fort Bend County.

"When I got to the end, I just so happened that I glanced at the screen, I saw Ted Cruz was selected as my senator," Hosea said.

He too voted straight ticket Democrat.

But it's not just a Democrat problem. Voters who select straight-party Republican unselect Sen. Cruz and wind up voting for no one. Either way, officials say it's a rare issue that happens, but not to everyone.

It's popped up across Texas often enough for the Secretary of State to put up a statewide advisory on Monday to every Texas election advisor.

The Secretary of State calls it 'operator error.'

"We've heard from voters over a number of elections about this," said Ft. Bend County Election Administrator John Oldham.

Oldham says it's a problem he's seen for years.

He even told the Secretary of State about it years ago and it's still happening.

"It's not a glitch, it's a user-induced problem that comes from the type of system that we have," Oldham said. "I think both sides could be equally hurt."

It's unclear how widespread it is.

"As long as you don't hit the red button to cast, then you can get some assistance from the poll watchers," Hosea said.

Oldham tells us he recalls the problems for at least six years and says he's talked to the Secretary of State more than once about the problem. It has not been fixed aside from signs provided by the Secretary of State to warn voters to check their selections.

Oldham also said he was able to replicate the issue in his offices after multiple attempts.

"I'm really disappointed with the State of Texas," Hosea told us.

Sam Taylor, at the Texas Secretary of State's office, tells 13 Investigates the problem is "user error" and not something their office could fix. Taylor suggests a vendor could or should handle any upgrades, but the state has not asked vendors to do so.

Oldham and another election expert tell 13 Investigates that in some states, pop up screens warn straight ticket voters if they purposely or accidentally select a candidate of the other party. Texas has no such electronic warning.

Oldham in Fort Bend County told us it is most likely caused by voters simultaneously twisting the selection dial and pushing the enter button. It may not even be purposeful, but done by voters in a rush who don't realize they are still interacting with both.

http://archive.is/toCKf

Why... why are you clowns trusting machines to take votes? Just write it on a piece of paper like a normal person.

millais · Oct 26, 2018

supposedly it's harder to misplace a few hard disks than a warehouse of boxes of paper ballots

Maxliam · Oct 26, 2018

heathercho said:
http://archive.is/toCKf

Why... why are you clowns trusting machines to take votes? Just write it on a piece of paper like a normal person.

Do you think that a horse and carriage are better than cars as well, grandpa?

heathercho · Oct 26, 2018

Maxliam said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ta41xU-tkFA
Do you think that a horse and carriage are better than cars as well, grandpa?

Misgendering and assuming I don't prefer sedan chairs carried by slaves, in one sentance? Outrageous.

Besides.... paper ballots are great. Votes on paper, written by humans have a lot of benefits. They're physical for starters. They can be physically recounted. It's just much better. You already have enough problems with illegals voting and bus-hopping, I think paper would just be a better idea.

Super-Chevy454 · Oct 26, 2018

heathercho said:
Misgendering and assuming I don't prefer sedan chairs carried by slaves, in one sentance? Outrageous.

Besides.... paper ballots are great. Votes on paper, written by humans have a lot of benefits. They're physical for starters. They can be physically recounted. It's just much better. You already have enough problems with illegals voting and bus-hopping, I think paper would just be a better idea.

And there's also people who voted twice and there's some dead people still registred to vote in some districts.
That news report is from May 2016 but it might be still relevant with the upcoming midterms.
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/201...-votes-being-cast-from-grave-year-after-year/

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — A comparison of records by David Goldstein, investigative reporter for CBS2/KCAL9, has revealed hundreds of so-called dead voters in Southern California, a vast majority of them in Los Angeles County.

“He took a lot of time choosing his candidates,” said Annette Givans of her father, John Cenkner.

Cenkner died in Palmdale in 2003. Despite this, records show that he somehow voted from the grave in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008 and 2010.

But he’s not the only one.

CBS2 compared millions of voting records from the California Secretary of State’s office with death records from the Social Security Administration and found hundreds of so-called dead voters.

Specifically, 265 in Southern California and a vast majority of them, 215, in Los Angeles County alone.

The numbers come from state records that show votes were cast in that person’s name after they died. In some cases, Goldstein discovered that they voted year after year.

It's HK-47 · Oct 26, 2018

Ron /pol/ said:
No, the democratic party isn't going to "shut down" the most it'll ever do in the foreseeable future is change it's platform.

Democrats will become a state-level party after the midterm elections.

You can already see some of them taking a sudden, vested interest in state-level politics as more and more of the polling comes through and more early voting is made available. Even Hillary Clinton dove onto the stage the other week to start talking about it. Hillary's rant about advocating for a return to power at the state and local level is the first official statement by a major Democratic party figure advocating for states rights, which is something that Obama tried to pave over in his march for federal authoritarianism. She can already see the writing on the wall.

Republicans are generally the ones who are states rights advocates; the only times in history when the Democrats have suddenly become interested in the rights of the states are times shortly before or after a major fuck-up that shoves them down to an almost non-party status. Slavery, tenant farming, Jim Crow laws, Separate but Equal, illegal immigration to create a new poverty-stricken underclass, the Democratic party inherently has not changed, all that's changed are the routes they use to create this societal power imbalance in order to keep at least one hand on the steering wheel.

This is essentially a tacit admission that Democrats are about to attempt to return to their Jim Crow era. They'll be fighting tooth and nail to defend the rights of states to abuse segments of its citizenry for their own power and benefit. The Democrats will retreat to their city strongholds and coastal blue states as they're torn down nationwide, and they will begin to advocate for policies that are ultimately self-destructive and harmful to vast swathes of their populations.

Don't be surprised when you see more and more Democrats suddenly leaping off of the bleachers to scream about becoming States Rights Democrats in the near future. Any of the Democrats with an actual head on their shoulders knows that in 11 days, they're going to become a state-level party and the 30-year cycle's going to reset all over again.

thx1138 · Oct 26, 2018

It's HK-47 said:
Democrats will become a state-level party after the midterm elections.

You can already see some of them taking a sudden, vested interest in state-level politics as more and more of the polling comes through and more early voting is made available. Even Hillary Clinton dove onto the stage the other week to start talking about it. Hillary's rant about advocating for a return to power at the state and local level is the first official statement by a major Democratic party figure advocating for states rights, which is something that Obama tried to pave over in his march for federal authoritarianism. She can already see the writing on the wall.

Republicans are generally the ones who are states rights advocates; the only times in history when the Democrats have suddenly become interested in the rights of the states are times shortly before or after a major fuck-up that shoves them down to an almost non-party status. Slavery, tenant farming, Jim Crow laws, Separate but Equal, illegal immigration to create a new poverty-stricken underclass, the Democratic party inherently has not changed, all that's changed are the routes they use to create this societal power imbalance in order to keep at least one hand on the steering wheel.

This is essentially a tacit admission that Democrats are about to attempt to return to their Jim Crow era. They'll be fighting tooth and nail to defend the rights of states to abuse segments of its citizenry for their own power and benefit. The Democrats will retreat to their city strongholds and coastal blue states as they're torn down nationwide, and they will begin to advocate for policies that are ultimately self-destructive and harmful to vast swathes of their populations.

Don't be surprised when you see more and more Democrats suddenly leaping off of the bleachers to scream about becoming States Rights Democrats in the near future. Any of the Democrats with an actual head on their shoulders knows that in 11 days, they're going to become a state-level party and the 30-year cycle's going to reset all over again.

Are you thinking the Dems retake the House?

Maxliam · Oct 26, 2018

heathercho said:
Misgendering and assuming I don't prefer sedan chairs carried by slaves, in one sentance? Outrageous.

Besides.... paper ballots are great. Votes on paper, written by humans have a lot of benefits. They're physical for starters. They can be physically recounted. It's just much better. You already have enough problems with illegals voting and bus-hopping, I think paper would just be a better idea.

No one cares that you're a tranny. Paper ballots were so useful during the Florida recount when a bunch of old farts didn't punch it in all the way.

Absolutego · Oct 26, 2018

It's HK-47 said:
Democrats will become a state-level party after the midterm elections.

You can already see some of them taking a sudden, vested interest in state-level politics as more and more of the polling comes through and more early voting is made available. Even Hillary Clinton dove onto the stage the other week to start talking about it. Hillary's rant about advocating for a return to power at the state and local level is the first official statement by a major Democratic party figure advocating for states rights, which is something that Obama tried to pave over in his march for federal authoritarianism. She can already see the writing on the wall.

Republicans are generally the ones who are states rights advocates; the only times in history when the Democrats have suddenly become interested in the rights of the states are times shortly before or after a major fuck-up that shoves them down to an almost non-party status. Slavery, tenant farming, Jim Crow laws, Separate but Equal, illegal immigration to create a new poverty-stricken underclass, the Democratic party inherently has not changed, all that's changed are the routes they use to create this societal power imbalance in order to keep at least one hand on the steering wheel.

This is essentially a tacit admission that Democrats are about to attempt to return to their Jim Crow era. They'll be fighting tooth and nail to defend the rights of states to abuse segments of its citizenry for their own power and benefit. The Democrats will retreat to their city strongholds and coastal blue states as they're torn down nationwide, and they will begin to advocate for policies that are ultimately self-destructive and harmful to vast swathes of their populations.

Don't be surprised when you see more and more Democrats suddenly leaping off of the bleachers to scream about becoming States Rights Democrats in the near future. Any of the Democrats with an actual head on their shoulders knows that in 11 days, they're going to become a state-level party and the 30-year cycle's going to reset all over again.

Republicans are more intellectually consistent about it, but State's Rights advocacy is a fixture of the minority party regardless of affiliation. Dems were pro-State's Rights during the Bush years, as well as military isolationists and anti-surveillance state (the latter, in fact, being one of the big issues alongside anti-torture that Obama rode into the White House).

State's rights are one of those issues where establishment politicians have an obviously bipartisan consensus in conflict with your average voter, so the minority party pretends to care about it when out of power as a means to grab votes. This isn't Democrats reverting to Jim Crow mindsets, this is a party out of power doing what a party in that state has always done, at least in the post-WWII political environment.

Spooky · Oct 26, 2018

heathercho said:
http://archive.is/toCKf

Why... why are you clowns trusting machines to take votes? Just write it on a piece of paper like a normal person.

There's anlot of negatives with paper ballots too. If some go missing it's a bit less suspicious than 1/1000 cartridges. It would also conceivably be easier to stuff ballots after voting was over or before voting. We actually have a major problem with one particular party doing a lot of voter fraud, but nobody gets in trouble for it for some reason. Purging the voter rolls would be pretty easy and I don't see how it would effect voters really, but somebody really really doesn't want it to happen.

Tealeaf · Oct 26, 2018

An election is only as reliable as its process. The boon of paper ballots is that you can physically audit the process. Every time a crate of ballots moves, you can watch it happen.

Electronic voting cannot be audited except by computer experts who are much too well paid and busy to bother volunteering with voting system audits. In contrast, any barely literate (if even that) mook can audit the physical paper trail.

The Great Chandler · Oct 26, 2018

Spooky said:
There's anlot of negatives with paper ballots too. If some go missing it's a bit less suspicious than 1/1000 cartridges. It would also conceivably be easier to stuff ballots after voting was over or before voting. We actually have a major problem with one particular party doing a lot of voter fraud, but nobody gets in trouble for it for some reason. Purging the voter rolls would be pretty easy and I don't see how it would effect voters really, but somebody really really doesn't want it to happen.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs

What's with soyboy looking asses trying to obstruct the election? Yet the Russians are the ones that still did it?

Rand /pol/ · Oct 26, 2018

It's HK-47 said:
Democrats will become a state-level party after the midterm elections.

You can already see some of them taking a sudden, vested interest in state-level politics as more and more of the polling comes through and more early voting is made available. Even Hillary Clinton dove onto the stage the other week to start talking about it. Hillary's rant about advocating for a return to power at the state and local level is the first official statement by a major Democratic party figure advocating for states rights, which is something that Obama tried to pave over in his march for federal authoritarianism. She can already see the writing on the wall.

Republicans are generally the ones who are states rights advocates; the only times in history when the Democrats have suddenly become interested in the rights of the states are times shortly before or after a major fuck-up that shoves them down to an almost non-party status. Slavery, tenant farming, Jim Crow laws, Separate but Equal, illegal immigration to create a new poverty-stricken underclass, the Democratic party inherently has not changed, all that's changed are the routes they use to create this societal power imbalance in order to keep at least one hand on the steering wheel.

This is essentially a tacit admission that Democrats are about to attempt to return to their Jim Crow era. They'll be fighting tooth and nail to defend the rights of states to abuse segments of its citizenry for their own power and benefit. The Democrats will retreat to their city strongholds and coastal blue states as they're torn down nationwide, and they will begin to advocate for policies that are ultimately self-destructive and harmful to vast swathes of their populations.

Don't be surprised when you see more and more Democrats suddenly leaping off of the bleachers to scream about becoming States Rights Democrats in the near future. Any of the Democrats with an actual head on their shoulders knows that in 11 days, they're going to become a state-level party and the 30-year cycle's going to reset all over again.

Frankly that's retarded

Sissy Galvez · Oct 26, 2018

It's HK-47 said:
Democrats will become a state-level party after the midterm elections.

You can already see some of them taking a sudden, vested interest in state-level politics as more and more of the polling comes through and more early voting is made available. Even Hillary Clinton dove onto the stage the other week to start talking about it. Hillary's rant about advocating for a return to power at the state and local level is the first official statement by a major Democratic party figure advocating for states rights, which is something that Obama tried to pave over in his march for federal authoritarianism. She can already see the writing on the wall.

Republicans are generally the ones who are states rights advocates; the only times in history when the Democrats have suddenly become interested in the rights of the states are times shortly before or after a major fuck-up that shoves them down to an almost non-party status. Slavery, tenant farming, Jim Crow laws, Separate but Equal, illegal immigration to create a new poverty-stricken underclass, the Democratic party inherently has not changed, all that's changed are the routes they use to create this societal power imbalance in order to keep at least one hand on the steering wheel.

This is essentially a tacit admission that Democrats are about to attempt to return to their Jim Crow era. They'll be fighting tooth and nail to defend the rights of states to abuse segments of its citizenry for their own power and benefit. The Democrats will retreat to their city strongholds and coastal blue states as they're torn down nationwide, and they will begin to advocate for policies that are ultimately self-destructive and harmful to vast swathes of their populations.

Don't be surprised when you see more and more Democrats suddenly leaping off of the bleachers to scream about becoming States Rights Democrats in the near future. Any of the Democrats with an actual head on their shoulders knows that in 11 days, they're going to become a state-level party and the 30-year cycle's going to reset all over again.

The left said the same thing about the republicans during 8 years of Obama and now they control all branches of government. It will cycle back, after the id pol idiots mass suicide.

misterduckford · Oct 26, 2018

Super-Chevy454 said:
And there's also people who voted twice and there's some dead people still registred to vote in some districts.
That news report is from May 2016 but it might be still relevant with the upcoming midterms.
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/201...-votes-being-cast-from-grave-year-after-year/

... and we wonder why they want to do away with the electoral college and fight so hard against voter ID laws.
It's been relevant with every election this country has had for decades. It's an open secret I can't understand why more hasn't been done.

EDIT: Trump doesn't seem like the type to ignore it if it were a serious factor. Maybe we are just shouting into the void about things we don't understand?

Spooky · Oct 26, 2018

misterduckford said:
EDIT: Trump doesn't seem like the type to ignore it if it were a serious factor. Maybe we are just shouting into the void about things we don't understand?

It has been a major problem for a while and once again is particularly major when the reigns of power are pretty close for either party as they have been recently. Trump has said a lot about it, but the (((media))) doesn't really cover it. He also has reason not to want to call into doubt his electoral victory now that he is in office.

There are some fairly well respected think tanks that believe there are a few to a little over around 7 million illegal votes regularly in presidential elections and that's just non-citizen voting. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973
Plenty of anecdotal evidence dead voters and stuffing ballot boxes with black voters who don't show in inner cities being an issue too.

UN US Midterm Elections 2018 Megathread - Blue Wave or Red Tsunami? Because you know we need one.

ICametoLurk

SCREW YOUR OPTICS, I'M GOING IN

millais

The Yellow Rose of Victoria, Texas

frozenrunner

Thanks for the avatar, CrAIyon!

Maxliam

You all disgust me.

heathercho

Executive Horsewife

millais

The Yellow Rose of Victoria, Texas

Maxliam

You all disgust me.

heathercho

Executive Horsewife

Super-Chevy454

It's HK-47

Meatbag's Bounty of Bodies

thx1138

Are you now, or have you ever been?

Maxliam

You all disgust me.

Absolutego

There's no excuse for a fool with a gun

Spooky

Tealeaf

The Great Chandler

"Pickleless girls don't marry virgin boys"

Rand /pol/

Sissy Galvez

misterduckford

Fine day for tacos.

Spooky