UN US Midterm Elections 2018 Megathread - Blue Wave or Red Tsunami? Because you know we need one.

Medicated · Oct 14, 2018

heathercho said:
This is great. Please people, campaign more like this.

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Do you want a Hero or a Hero?

When did Nostalgia Chick from Kickassia become a Democratic Candidate?

Also wtf

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Just how scary far left is Kyrsten Sinema running in Arizona's CD9 for Congress?[/paste:font]

Guy Benson has really nailed it with this revealing expose on Democrat Kyrsten Sinema, who was once awarded the Vladimir Lenin award from the Arizona Federation of Taxpayers for being the furthest left member of the Arizona State Legislature. Don't believe her pretend transformation over to the mainstream, which includes a radical change in her appearance to look more moderate. Read his article at Townhall here.

We sure its not just Nostalgia Chick in a blonde wig?

whatever I feel like · Oct 14, 2018

Wallace said:
This is just like eight years ago, when the Republicans ran on a platform of "we're not Obama!" and "Half of the country are garbage people!", and they rode that wave to a landslide victory in 2012. Oh wait...

Agreed, it was very effective in the off-cycles though. And bear in mind, that effectiveness made it so that Obama couldn't enshrine his policies in law, replace Antonin Scalia, get left-leaning treaties through the Senate, etc.

Pyromaniac · Oct 14, 2018

An Ghost said:
Don’t care about seats cause fuck if I recognize any names on any ballot ever.

Excited to vote because one of the questions for my state involves overturning tranny protection laws.

Can I ask, what does your state's tranny protection law entails?

BubbleButt said:
Thanos is purple for a reason.

Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.

MacMasonry · Oct 14, 2018

Decided to do some research on candidates who are on the ballot for my state and came across this person running for State Auditor
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She said she’s not sure what she would do differently from Janssen and she’s still learning about the office.

"I'm running for office! If only I knew what that office was for!"

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mindlessobserver · Oct 14, 2018

McDenis09 said:
Decided to do some research on candidates who are on the ballot for my state and came across this person running for State Auditor
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"I'm running for office! If only I knew what that office was for!"

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There are a ton of legacy positions at the State and Local level that are redundant and have been taken over by other paid bureaucrats. For example, many townships on the east coast still have the position of "Constable" dating back to the colonial period. they have no portfolio as all these towns have police departments now, but they never bothered to take the position off the books. Meanng Anyone can walk up to the registrar, and pay the fee to get on the ballot and win by default as these positions tend to go unopposed. You probably won't get paid or if you are, not much. But you get a sick title. My own hometown still holds an election for "City Treasurer", but the treasurer doesn't have anything to do as all the finances are handled by the city comptroller which is hired by the council. So the treasurer just gets a desk and small office in city hall and does "stuff". Usually free financial advice for low income people.

Some enterprising kiwi should look and see if any such things exist in their neck of the woods and report back on their success.

RodgerDodger · Oct 14, 2018

Here’s a stunning example of just how disorganized and in bad shape the Dem’s actually are. They let this happen.

https://www.fresnobee.com/news/poli...logs/political-notebook/article219021960.html

TLDR, T. j. Fox is the Dem candidate for California’s 21 House District. This is a long standing GOP held seat in Fresno, CA. This is a MUST WIN seat for the Dems to retake the House. All the statistically reasonable models for Dems taking the House require this seat. They require them sweeping up the CA GOP seats. Take careful note of that... because the Fresno Bee, the local paper just discovered that the Dem candidate, Fox, lives in Maryland. That’s his Primary tax residence. Let that sink in! This is the candidate that they let get on the ballot for a must win seat. In Pelosi’s State and Domain no less. That’s the lack of organization and control.

This is not a symptom of a “Blue Wave”. It’s more a sign of an incoming deep disfunctional party meltdown. Yes problem candidates slip through. But did nobody do any basic checking? This isn’t College Witchcraft or High School Social Media rampages. This is current tax and property records. The party is supposed to check that out before endorsing. They clearly didn’t.

Ruin · Oct 14, 2018

McDenis09 said:
Decided to do some research on candidates who are on the ballot for my state and came across this person running for State Auditor
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"I'm running for office! If only I knew what that office was for!"

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So that's what female soy face looks like.

Null · Oct 14, 2018

RodgerDodger said:
Let that sink in!

People who use this phrase should be shot in the back of the head. I do not need to be told to take a moment to sit down and collect myself under the sudden impact of imparted wisdom you've just delivered. I am capable of reading.

The truth nuke you just dropped that required explicit warning I may need to take a time out to handle it is: he's an out of state candidate. About 1 in 20 members of the house are registered to vote outside their district. It's not as shocking as you'd hope. I don't know how many Congresspeople were actually born in their district but I'm sure it's almost none of the Democrats and only a handful of the Republicans.

When people vote they just go down the ballot for their team. Where they live doesn't matter. The question is: "has the two-party conflict of eternal war shifted far enough into Team A's field that more of Team A is going to show up to vote for Team A?"

"The president's party always gets shellacked in midterms. It's only twice, 1934 and 2002, that the president's party actually gained in both the House and the Senate."
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...sidents-always-get-shellacked-midterm-electi/

Presidents rarely meet their political goals in the first two years and their voters don't turn up in the midterms while the opposing team does. Problem is, Trump has accomplished many of his goals and I think the Kavanaugh swearing in was divisive enough both teams are going to be motivated.

whatever I feel like · Oct 14, 2018

Well, carpetbagging is a vote loser. On the other hand, you conveniently left this part of the article out of your quote:

After the story published online, Andrew Godinich, a spokesman for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said the state of Maryland automatically marked the home as Cox’s principal residence, but it’s not.

In a statement released before the story published online, Cox campaign spokesman Phillip Vander Klay accused Valadao’s campaign of resorting to “misleading attacks.”

“TJ Cox proudly lives, works and raises his family here in the Central Valley, and has for the past 20 years,” Vander Klay said.

You also called him Fox instead of Cox and failed to mention that he already, openly, switched districts because this one had a less crowded primary than the 10th district.

Judge Holden · Oct 14, 2018

Null said:
Presidents rarely meet their political goals in the first two years and their voters don't turn up in the midterms while the opposing team does. Problem is, Trump has accomplished many of his goals and I think the Kavanaugh swearing in was divisive enough both teams are going to be motivated.

My question would be, just how connected are both teams to the electorates they need to get marching to the poll booths?

While the Kavanaugh schtick may well have riled up the activist fringe of the dems, does this translate to the normie dem masses being willing to go out and vote in enough numbers to make a difference? I mean, im honestly not expecting any 2016 style electoral upset on the side of the republicans (as tempting it would be to imagine the reactions) but from what I see the problem the dems have been having a while now is that the average democrat leaning voter seems more willing to just stay at home come voting season than they did before

RodgerDodger · Oct 14, 2018

Null said:
People who use this phrase should be shot in the back of the head. I do not need to be told to take a moment to sit down and collect myself under the sudden impact of imparted wisdom you've just delivered. I am capable of reading.

The truth nuke you just dropped that required explicit warning I may need to take a time out to handle it is: he's an out of state candidate. About 1 in 20 members of the house are registered to vote outside their district. It's not as shocking as you'd hope. I don't know how many Congresspeople were actually born in their district but I'm sure it's almost none of the Democrats and only a handful of the Republicans.

When people vote they just go down the ballot for their team. Where they live doesn't matter. The question is: "has the two-party conflict of eternal war shifted far enough into Team A's field that more of Team A is going to show up to vote for Team A?"

"The president's party always gets shellacked in midterms. It's only twice, 1934 and 2002, that the president's party actually gained in both the House and the Senate."
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...sidents-always-get-shellacked-midterm-electi/

Presidents rarely meet their political goals in the first two years and their voters don't turn up in the midterms while the opposing team does. Problem is, Trump has accomplished many of his goals and I think the Kavanaugh swearing in was divisive enough both teams are going to be motivated.

Out of District is quite normal. But Out of State is not. It's one of those things that is generally disallowed at the State level. For obvious reasons. It is something that they are supposed to check on.

Judge Holden said:
My question would be, just how connected are both teams to the electorates they need to get marching to the poll booths?

While the Kavanaugh schtick may well have riled up the activist fringe of the dems, does this translate to the normie dem masses being willing to go out and vote in enough numbers to make a difference? I mean, im honestly not expecting any 2016 style electoral upset on the side of the republicans (as tempting it would be to imagine the reactions) but from what I see the problem the dems have been having a while now is that the average democrat leaning voter seems more willing to just stay at home come voting season than they did before

That depends a great deal on the locality. Those areas most likely to see a surge in engaged Dem voters from the Kavanaugh spectacle are by and large already solidly Blue. So it will have minimal impact on the House Races beyond hardening the already existing seperations. It may have some impact on the Senate or Governors Races in those states if it increases the more urban turnout on an off year. For example you will see more outraged San Francisco types go out an vote. Boise Idaho? Not as much. Or the outrage os more likely to surge in the other direction.

whatever I feel like · Oct 14, 2018

I could see Kavanaugh going any number of different ways. There really is no way to tell right now how it all played out. That said, whatever advantage it gives Republicans now, it is not equal to the one they lost by not being able to force Joe Donnelly, John Tester, Bill Nelson and Claire McCaskill to take tough votes on a clean nominee (Heitcamp and Manchin would have certainly voted yes.)

An Ghost · Oct 14, 2018

A Psycho Cat said:
Can I ask, what does your state's tranny protection law entails?

Just protection from discrimination same as race, religion, biological gender, age, etc. 2 years ago they added “gender identity” to the list so firing somebody because they identify as a woman while biologically male is currently illegal and has happened before the law. There’s a vote to repeal those protections but I doubt it’ll happen since Mass was the first to legalize same sex marriage and would be the one state in New England to not have those protections.

RodgerDodger · Oct 14, 2018

An Ghost said:
Just protection from discrimination same as race, religion, biological gender, age, etc. 2 years ago they added “gender identity” to the list so firing somebody because they identify as a woman while biologically male is currently illegal and has happened before the law. There’s a vote to repeal those protections but I doubt it’ll happen since Mass was the first to legalize same sex marriage and would be the one state in New England to not have those protections.

This one always bothers me. How do you allow somebodies "Subjective Reality" to become a legally protected class? I mean the traditional elements regarding discrimination laws were race and gender. Things that had a real world objective test before the courts. But how do you prove in court that you are gay or trans? How does the other litigant challenge any such claims? It requires everybody be subjected to laws enforcing what goes on in an individuals head. Which always strikes me as extremely poor lawmaking. I'm not saying people should be fired for being gay or trans. Just that such protected status has some issues when applied to law.

TowinKarz · Oct 14, 2018

True, but, like all "protected class" law, it doesn't mean you can't fire someone for being incompetent at their job, I'm not a fan of firing someone for subjective feelings about their objective state of being (race, religion) or even their subjective prefferences (favorite color or TV show)

If they can do thier job, let them, if they can't? Sure. Fire them, the problem is that so many incompetent people claim protected status to frustrate employers enough that they won't actually try it, and when the protected class is "how I feel on the inside", something anyone who wants to be a pain can fake indistinguishably from someone sincere? That's where this bullshit wastes society's resources.

Wallace · Oct 14, 2018

RodgerDodger said:
This one always bothers me. How do you allow somebodies "Subjective Reality" to become a legally protected class? I mean the traditional elements regarding discrimination laws were race and gender. Things that had a real world objective test before the courts. But how do you prove in court that you are gay or trans? How does the other litigant challenge any such claims? It requires everybody be subjected to laws enforcing what goes on in an individuals head. Which always strikes me as extremely poor lawmaking. I'm not saying people should be fired for being gay or trans. Just that such protected status has some issues when applied to law.

How do you prove someone follows a religion? People have filed claims that they were fired due to the tenets of their religion requiring facial piercings. (The Church of Body Modification) The case is Cloutier v. Costco. While Costco won the case since they offered her accommodations and she refused, the court declined to rule on whether the Church of Body Modification was officially a “religion.” This is a subject that courts really don't like to handle. I expect a case involving gender identity would go similarly.

An Ghost · Oct 14, 2018

I also think religion is an iffy protected class (because politics isn’t as found by the court case where a man was kicked out of a bar for wearing a MAGA hat that ruled in favor of the bar) but remember one of the reasons America was started was freedom of religion. As for protection because of race, there was a thread here about a guy whose ancestry said he was 12% black or something so who can deny that he’s black and thus exempt from minority business owner tax credits?

Politics is consistently inconsistent about many things.

mindlessobserver · Oct 14, 2018

Gonna have to push back on America being founded on freedom of religion. That is patently not true. All 13 of the original states had official state religions that were formally abolished by the Federal constitution, or just a few years before it. The first State to abolish State based religion was Virginia, and that was done in 1786, 3 years after the war had ended. (I think Rhode Island was earlier, but nobody cares about Rhode Island). It was a near thing too, as the Episocopal Church (Virginia's state religion) pushed back hard against Mr. Jeffersons heresy. In the end, the people pushing to get rid of official religion prevailed, not because of some grand revolutionary narrative (though they used such language) but because the horrific religious wars of the Protestant reformation were recent history at the time of the American Revolution, and the new nation wanted to make a solid break from what they saw as the excesses of Europe.

Bork Laser · Oct 14, 2018

Null said:
Presidents rarely meet their political goals in the first two years and their voters don't turn up in the midterms while the opposing team does. Problem is, Trump has accomplished many of his goals and I think the Kavanaugh swearing in was divisive enough both teams are going to be motivated.

This honestly. I think the Dems are gonna make gains in the House but its not gonna be a blue wave nor give them control. Senate is obviously staying red because of how fucked the Dems are this year with seats up for grabs. Many Midterm elections sorta sneak up on you. You don't really know their coming until its like a month or few weeks beforehand so it slips people's mind. However since 2016, people have been screaming about the midterms, making sure everyone knows about them, ensuring a bunch of people are ready to go out and vote. Trump has proved he can rile his base up to come out in droves to vote for him. Dems still haven't shown it beyond a few easy wins in special elections. 2018 mid terms is a make or break task for them.

Otis Boi · Oct 14, 2018

Bork Laser said:
make or break task for them

Honestly if they can't pull there shit together for this mid-term and the following presidential election i think we might see the collapse of the democratic party. They only people they have are fanatics that would vote for them even if they wanted to put people in gas chambers. They seemed to have lost the ability to compromise. They are children they either get it there way or they throw a tantrum.

UN US Midterm Elections 2018 Megathread - Blue Wave or Red Tsunami? Because you know we need one.

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