US 2022 Mid-Term Election

[George Lucas]

I often forget Montana even exists as a state. It’s the anti–Florida man state.

 

[Ita Mori]

One of the more absurd bits I'm seeing about all this is how Trump is "done", while Ron DeSantis, a person who only started to become politically prominent after copying Trump's homework and being endorsed by Trump, is the new Republican lightning rod of political energy.

This is an almost transparent attempt by the GOPe to manufacture a division between populist Republicans, and the worst part is that it actually seems to be working.

It's too early to say if it's working. Emotions are going to run high and people are trying to find scapegoats for the red splash (because admitting your only message was "the other guys kinda suck, amirite?" instead of something substantial hurts GOP feefees).
That said, someone needs to tard wrangle Orange tard. He's going full narcissist and regardless if it's a shitpost or not, most people are not going to take it in jest.
He needs to keep a modicum of humility and keep the shitposting for his enemies, of which there's plenty.

 

[Random Internet Person]

That said, someone needs to tard wrangle Orange tard. He's going full narcissist and regardless if it's a shitpost or not, most people are not going to take it in jest.
He needs to keep a modicum of humility and keep the shitposting for his enemies, of which there's plenty.

Wasn’t that said to be a thing that cost him 2020, outside of the whole fraud angle?

I often forget Montana even exists as a state. It’s the anti–Florida man state.

Well, Ben Garrison lives there.

 

[make_it_so]

A Libertarian is just a person that prefers to be walked over by corporations, activists, and ngos on behalf of governments rather than governments directly. Why would I ever vote for them even if Romney/McCain tier retard is the other option? There are no good options in that scenario. At this point you'll be giving us a game of pick your poison.

All the tards saying that the GOP needs to offer more to Libertarians...well, that's what the establishment Ryan/McConnell types already do. And it's a fucking problem. The eternal deference to the interests of transnational megacorporations not only has no popular electoral support, the real world effects of it has been our current borderline cyberpunk dystopia where we're devolving/have devolved from an actual representative republic nation state to an oligarchic anarcho-tyranny "economic zone."

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

It's too early to say if it's working. Emotions are going to run high and people are trying to find scapegoats for the red splash (because admitting your only message was "the other guys kinda suck, amirite?" instead of something substantial hurts GOP feefees).
That said, someone needs to tard wrangle Orange tard. He's going full narcissist and regardless if it's a shitpost or not, most people are not going to take it in jest.
He needs to keep a modicum of humility and keep the shitposting for his enemies, of which there's plenty.

Trump, humble? Hello, Harsh Reality Co? I have a poor, sweet summer child that needs a comfy chair to sit down in. No offense, but you need to never hope Trump dials it down unless he thinks it is time to do so.

Remember that Trump isn’t the leader of the GOP cash supply, and that said cash was and will be working against him. He is gonna throw blame at Mitch and co., while taking none of the responsibility.

Trump’s playbook is rough, but it is predictable and easy to digest. That is why raging at Trump does nothing to his popularity. He doesn't need to be wrangled, people need to learn how to roll with his punches.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Trump’s playbook is rough, but it is predictable and easy to digest. That is why raging at Trump does nothing to his popularity. He doesn't need to be wrangled, people need to learn how to roll with his punches.

You do know that’ll never happen, right?

the real world effects of it has been our current borderline cyberpunk dystopia where we're devolving/have devolved from an actual representative republic nation state to an oligarchic anarcho-tyranny "economic zone."

Well, thanks for giving a name for what Ben Garrison thinks is the end goal for the World Economic Forum.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Wasn’t that said to be a thing that cost him 2020, outside of the whole fraud angle?

"He had three gunshot wounds and also Covid at the time of death."

That said, it's insane to me how far we've fallen in a couple of years. I remember having same-day results in elections (weird outliers like Florida 2000 notwithstanding) and then 2020 happene and poof! Election night becomes election fortnight+ recounts and litigation. Meanwhile Democrat urban cores start putting up numbers that make Russian referenda look legitimate.

I'm not going to say "there are no political solutions," but there are no conventional political solutions.

 

[LeChampion1992]

So when do those with nothing to lose go “fuck it” and just go full on declaration of war against the Oregon Axis of Evil in their eyes?

I think the only way that can occur Is if Donald Trump or the Republicans win massively by such massive gains that it forces them into political extremism.

 

[Ita Mori]

Trump, humble? Hello, Harsh Reality Co? I have a poor, sweet summer child that needs a comfy chair to sit down in. No offense, but you need to never hope Trump dials it down unless he thinks it is time to do so.

I don't need him to become a dull politician, and he seems to get nerfed when he becomes too tranquil, hence "a modicum". Reel it in. No one's asking for the impossible; in fact most people probably like him most when he's shitposting, but he's shitposting on his own side and it's leaving residue everywhere.

He doesn't need to be wrangled, people need to learn how to roll with his punches.

If he's not wrangled, he's going to be outcast and split the vote between his dickriders and people who liked his ideals but had enough of his New Yorker antics.
Continuing unchecked is going to end with him handing Desantis everything on a platter.

Wasn’t that said to be a thing that cost him 2020, outside of the whole fraud angle?

Personally, I think what cost him 2020 outside of the steal was he became too professional and soft (the complete opposite of what he is now), and he started catering to niggers and beaners while taking rural and blue collar whites he had won over for granted. Niggers as a bloc will never come over no matter what you do and beaners have shown time and time again that they like Whitey's toys and nice things; if you get whites onboard and treat them right the beaners will naturally follow because they want some of that low gas prices/good jobs/spending money too.

Shitposting and memeing on his enemies is encouraged, doing so at his own team ends up validating TDS sufferer's claims that Trump wants the GOP to be the Trump autocracy.

 

[WeDon'tNeedToWhisper]

400k votes still to count in Maricopa county and 17k votes need to be RECOUNTED???? wew, fucking wew! They are ballsy af.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Paul Ryan wants Trump gone lol.

Jack Posobiec

BREAKING: Paul Ryan calls on the GOP to not nominate Trump in 2024 https://www.wisn.com/article/paul-ryan-calls-former-president-donald-trump-drag-on-our-ticket/41917724

t.me

Yes, as if Cocaine Mitch and Kevin McCarthy and Karl Rove and other Bush era neocons will truly let DeSantis do whatever he needs to be done.

And not just fuck up things harder since Trump is a CEO that doesn't like taking orders and seen the fuck ups these lot are, even if Trump is vain.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

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This is the opinion of people about the current state of the country, and not one incumbent politician got unseated.
Literally bug people.

Literally the vote harder meme

 

[Getwhatyou]

absolutely loving the cope in this thread right now. Cheer up homies. Tomorrow is a new day

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

You do know that’ll never happen, right?

Other major American businessmen have beaten Trump in business deals and have probably tap-danced on more than a few of his plans. The problem is that we don’t let people like the Starbucks guy run for office because his money reserves make him impossible to bribe. Let the minor millionaires run for Senate, let the small business owners with trustworthy people to manage the place for 2 years run for the House.

Let the rich take a few seats of power and begin auditing for financial inefficiencies, we know what would happen next and the salt would be glorious.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

If Maricopa having the same fuckery as 2020 there's no way that shit is "secure".

he started catering to niggers and beaners while taking rural and blue collar whites he had won over for granted. Niggers as a bloc will never come over no matter what you do and beaners have shown time and time again that they like Whitey's toys and nice things; if you get whites onboard and treat them right the beaners will naturally follow because they want some of that low gas prices/good jobs/spending money too.

Well he was the only Republican in awhile to even hear minorities out. Unfortunately in a identity based society the optics of only whites voting for you won't help.

Wasn’t that said to be a thing that cost him 2020, outside of the whole fraud angle?

Black lives matter & COVID. If none of that happened he would've won. But due to George Floyd the dnc machine used that to their advantage.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

and they believe Trump hinders those efforts because they are relatively simple to accomplish no matter where the money comes from. That Trump has not done more with his fundraising mandate over "securing elections" to help at the state level sticks in their craw.

I mean the reason Trump hinders the effort is not because they are hard to do but that the establishment does not want to support him. So he can do nothing. If the RNC had not helped the VP, their reforms would have not gone through.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

It's not just that Democrats are better at it than Republicans, it's that Democrat voters are concentrated in high-density cities, and ballot harvesting comes down to who can afford to send out the harvesters. It isn't even affordable for Republicans to do what Democrats do, so the new ballot harvesting method of voting simply means that whoever has the urban vote has a 10:1 vote per dollar advantage.


Yep - Republicans thought they could let Democrats run schools, even in red states, not lift a finger, and DURRR ONCE THOSE KIDS PAY TAXES would kick in.



Unlike Democrats, Republicans would rather lose elections than let the wrong Republican win.

Yeah, that issue has to be dealt with.. It's going to take more than a single fix.

Not just thought but basically insist that they do and that nobody interferes! As I said in an earlier post:

"We heard the same things about higher education and education in general for years.. "Oh no, don't do anything.. just wait until they enter real life, then they'll learn"
For some reason republicans and independents are terrified of the idea of "interfering" with higher education.."

But we've all seen how that worked out.. Even now though the old guard has no answer for it.. hell, they don't even have comment. (so as not to get into yucky social issues or piss off the left) The closest they come to a fix when pressed is usually something like privatized education. Which, even IF it did work out how you want, 100% private... Who the hell do you think are going to be running the majority of the huge number of new private schools? That will just be the same buildings and other stuff anyway. This also completely ignores the unions and their increasing in-class ideological agenda, nor does it touch on the fact that some of the most woke and insane schools currently, are already private schools!

That's an extension of their intent on never directly fighting any social issue battles at all. The old guard are mostly business men types and libertarians/shills. They have no desire to fight or even get into messy ideological battles. Their only interest seems to be lowering taxes and deregulating everything for their corporate/market friends and masters... THE SAME PEOPLE currently empowering the woke, and crushing freedoms like speech and canceling people.

Republicans did what they do best: insist on being tone-deaf.

The reason Florida went cherry red is because they focused on the cultural issues instead of the economy (which the Pooper-In-Chief manipulated in time for the election) which resonantes greatly with most people that are horrified with the freak show going on and that’s being mandated to children via Public Indoctrination.

So Abortion loses you all the thot and simp vote but opposing the troon agenda in many places ensures family votes.

All of these things were seen in the recent Virginia lab and the GOP failed to learn from that and apply it at scale.

Yup, the above applies here as well. It's not that they don't or even can't learn.. They do not want to learn it. They would rather quit than get into "icky" social issues.

The Republican Party is stuck on this idea that tax cuts are a cheat code to winning elections, and all other issues are just too controversial and distracting from this one thing. They largely believe that if they can tamp down on all this unrest about other issues and bring the party back to focusing on cutting taxes and increasing military spending, they'll start bringing home victories again. That's why they refuse to engage other issues. Even in municipal races where the public is upset about skyrocketing crime and bums pissing everywhere, they just campaign on tax cuts. It's why they initially had Noem, Hutchison, and Abbot cuck on trans kids. It's why they had no message on COVID. They view everything that isn't a tax cut as a distraction.

Democrats haven't raised taxes significantly in 30 years, and yet, you still see retarded boomer conservatives saying, "Heh! Wait until those kids start paying taxes! Then they'll vote Republican." Bro, the Democrats are fighting to make it legal for a pedophile to kidnap my son and castrate him, I don't fucking care if you're going to lower the taxes on his state-mandated tranny titty pills.

So much all of this too! Like I said above.

The conservative creed: "We'll just fail, so why do anything?" The Democrats temporarily sacrificed their Congressional majority to cram down a massive takeover of medicine in America, but conservatives can't be bothered to stop Democrats from stealing elections, because, hey, they'll fight back!

Correction it's more like "Because we will have to fight for it and some leftists will be mad/screech" Which seems to underpin most of old guard rep's logic in things worth fighting for if it doesn't involve taxes.

Feels bad...

On the bright side... I guess it could be worse... like Biden/Fetterman or Fetterman/??? in 2024.. Which I guess would only be fitting at this point. lol

Oh dear fucking god... People are actually suggesting Fetterman 2024! Someone even suggest it *seriously* on MSNBC!

How the fuck do you even satirize the "current year" at this point?!?

 

[verissimus]

I'm not going to say "there are no political solutions," but there are no conventional political solutions.

Not at the federal level anytime soon though, for the life of me, I don't get how Republican success at the local and state level hasn't in years translated to success at the federal level. Don't Republicans effectively own most state legislatures outside deep blue states?

 

[kurosawa]

Hard not to be a doomer but if digital id and CBDC pass it's time to leave. It'll probably take a year or two but I would be surprised if both aren't in place by 2024. The boomers wont ever do anything that risks their welfare money or consooooming lifestyle. The uniparty has the same goals just slightly different paths. The Republican establishment knows the overton window has shifted left - partially why they didn't do much in this election cycle.

At least I'll get to laugh at all the stories on the right - look at this super duper lawfare case, it's better we didn't win this time, vooote harder in 2024, Trumps gonna win 2024, its the lolbertarians fault, no we actually won, we'll get em using the local elections strategy that will do in 2 years what took the left 50 years, more my pillow ads, etc.

 

[Safir]

So wait, barring the attempted abortion, if it's any baby born in the state, Montana just doesn't tend to it? Who introduced this referendum to the ballot, and was it just for the abortion angle, or is there something going on in the delivery rooms in that state?

Supposedly it's about nothing whatsoever (like that anti-lynching bill, except that passed and became law), as even abortion survivors are citizens and are owed medical care. Existing penalties for baby killing are the same (negligent) or worse (deliberate) than in the measure. However, the "even abortion survivors" is not explicitly stated in Montana law, but instead in Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of 2002.

The purpose of the measure was explicitly to protect abortion survivors:

Section 2. Findings -- purpose. (1) The state asserts a compelling interest in protecting the life of any infant born alive following an abortion.

(it probably makes more sense to expand protection than make a new one, and the implication that pro-abortion policies weaken protections of wanted babies may be helpful to pro-lifers in the abortion massdebates.)

Opponents said the measure was redundant and would be used to prevent release of dying babies to their grieving parents, and instead torture them to death and surrender the mangled corpses.