US 2022 Mid-Term Election

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Save the Loli said:
Because it has NEVER worked that way.
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Presidents have ALWAYS considered SCOTUS appointments some of their biggest accomplishments. Trump got three in 4 years and flipped the court hard conservative. You saying other wise doesn't alter reality, you living TDS salt mine.

Save the Loli said:
Why aren't you giving Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. credit for this decision given how the justices they appointed ruled?
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Because Trump flipped the court more conservative with three solid-conservative picks, genius. Did Roe get tossed out under Bush Sr. or W? Nope. It only happened under Trump. You hate Trump SO MUCH you won't give him credit for anything even when this was an extremely obvious win for him, and not only that, it was probably the biggest campaign promise delivered by a Republican in 40 years. There is no day light between you and the average Washington Post reader or r/politics user.

Save the Loli said:
The reason being is called separation of powers, you know, one of the basic elements of this country, where the President is separate from the Supreme Court. Treating the Supreme Court as an extension of the president makes you no different than the bluechecks who want Biden to pack the court. Sad!
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What a pathetic strawman. Trump campaigned on getting Roe over-turned. Promises made, promised kept, Salty Lolicon. lol
 
Mothra1988 said:
Presidents have ALWAYS considered SCOTUS appointments some of their biggest accomplishments. Trump got three in 4 years and flipped the court hard conservative. You saying other wise doesn't alter reality, you living TDS salt mine.
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We've already been over this, and IIRC you ran away from the argument last time I pointed out that no one credits Nixon (appointed three of the justices) or Eisenhower (appointed two of them) for Roe v. Wade. Or Andrew Jackson for Dred Scott. Or Washington for Marbury v. Madison. Can you explain why this is any different? And no, Trump trying to inflate his miniscule list of actual achievements doesn't count.
Mothra1988 said:
Because Trump flipped the court more conservative with three solid-conservative picks, genius. Did Roe get tossed out under Bush Sr. or W? Nope. It only happened under Trump. You hate Trump SO MUCH you won't give him credit for anything even when this was an extremely obvious win for him, and not only that, it was probably the biggest campaign promise delivered by a Republican in 40 years. There is no day light between you and the average Washington Post reader or r/politics user.
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Because it wasn't a win for Trump when half the justices involved were appointed by one of the two Bushes. If Jeb! had been in office he would have appointed similar/the same justices who would've done the same shit, but you wouldn't credit Jeb! because he isn't your Orange Master like Trump is.
 
Save the Loli said:
We've already been over this, and IIRC you ran away from the argument last time I pointed out that no one credits Nixon (appointed three of the justices) or Eisenhower (appointed two of them) for Roe v. Wade. Or Andrew Jackson for Dred Scott. Or Washington for Marbury v. Madison. Can you explain why this is any different? And no, Trump trying to inflate his miniscule list of actual achievements doesn't count.
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I didn't run away from anything. If I stopped replying to your mental gymnastics to defend your Level 9000 TDS schizo butt hurt, it's because I got bored with your never ending your inane blathering where you think you can win if you just keep replying more. You're wrong, and there's no universe where Trump doesn't get credit for overturning Roe vs. Wade.

Save the Loli said:
Because it wasn't a win for Trump when half the justices involved were appointed by one of the two Bushes. If Jeb! had been in office he would have appointed similar/the same justices who would've done the same shit, but you wouldn't credit Jeb! because he isn't your Orange Master like Trump is.
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Here is the sequence of events:

1. Roe vs. Wade is decided in 1973.
2. Abortion of viable children becomes a humongous industry in the United States.
3. Decades and decades pass in which conservative politicians say they want to overturn Roe vs. Wade but are ineffectual in doing so if not straight up dishonest in their intentions and only pandering to their Christian voter base.
4. Overturning Roe vs. Wade becomes the biggest issue for Christian voters and the Republican base, yet no Republicans elected to congress or the presidency ever do anything about it.
5. Trump in 2015/2016 says - "I will nominate SCOTUS justices who will overturn Roe vs. Wade. Believe me." It is one of his major campaign promises reiterated constantly.
6. Trump is elected and does just that.
7. His picks are attacked at levels never seen before including a manufactured me-tooing of Kavanaugh with actual Hollywood celebrities in the chambers throwing a fucking fit.
8. Against all odds, Trump's picks succeed when any weaker administration would have folded like a napkin under this kind of pressure.
9. Trump's SCOTUS picks overturn Roe Vs. Wade in 2022 after 49 years of Republican failure to do so, proving Trump delivered when all previous Republicans failed.
10. A stormfag pedophile goes - "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! But he has Jewish grandchildren! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
 
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Mothra1988 said:
I didn't run away from anything. If I stopped replying to your mental gymnastics to defend your Level 9000 TDS schizo butt hurt, it's because I got bored with your never ending your inane blathering where you think you can win if you just keep replying more. You're wrong, and there's no universe where Trump doesn't get credit for overturning Roe vs. Wade.
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Which again, Richard Nixon doesn't get credit for Roe v. Wade, so why should Trump get credit for overturning it? It's really funny how Trump simps and Trump haters both agree that it's Trump's fault Roe v. Wade was overturned.

You can't even answer this without elevating Trump to the level of gawd-empruh who all the Republican Party obeys to push through his nominees and policies (except when they didn't so you can scream MUH RINOS to excuse for the endless failures and mediocrities of Orange Man's presidency). Sad!
 
Save the Loli said:
Which again, Richard Nixon doesn't get credit for Roe v. Wade, so why should Trump get credit for overturning it?
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You like talking about your "logic" but apparently your brain is so broken that the idea that Roe vs. Wade does not get overturned without Trump's actions and that this was a successful goal he achieved does not compute. This is history, lolitard, it's not debatable.

Was this a campaign promise of Trump's, yes or no? Was Richard Nixon's campaign promise to legalize abortion nation wide?

What a shitty deflection. This is all you have. If you weren't so fucking autistic, you could at least admit that Trump achieved this goal, but you can't, because your crippling autism is so strong you must disregard everything Trump has ever done even if it means sticking your head in the sand and getting trash cans for saying the same bullshit six posts in a row like it's suddenly going to convince anyone else each time you repeat it. I doubt you have even convinced yourself. At least I admitted when I was wrong in response to you two or so times.

Save the Loli said:
You can't even answer this without elevating Trump to the level of gawd-empruh who all the Republican Party obeys to push through his nominees and policies (except when they didn't so you can scream MUH RINOS to excuse for the endless failures and mediocrities of Orange Man's presidency). Sad!
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You're not an objective arbiter of fucking anything. I've proven you're just another crazed internet nut with a vendetta against Trump. If you weren't, you wouldn't have to deny reality in your nonpstop crying about him becuase even admitting he acheived one part of this presidential platform is too much for you. Show me on your dakimakura where the orange man touched you. lol
 
Mothra1988 said:
Roe vs. Wade does not get overturned without Trump's actions
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You can't even rely on the "much RINOs" argument here since Bush Sr. defended Clarence Thomas from his accusations and I'm sure Jeb!, Ted Cruz, Rubio, or anyone even slightly right of the Lincoln Project crowd would defend their own Supreme Court picks who again, would rule against abortion. Appointing three bog standard "conservatives" from the Federalist Society isn't something only Trump can do. Just admit you're a total Trump simp bro.
 
Save the Loli said:
You can't even rely on the "much RINOs" argument here since Bush Sr. defended Clarence Thomas from his accusations and I'm sure Jeb!, Ted Cruz, Rubio, or anyone even slightly right of the Lincoln Project crowd would defend their own Supreme Court picks who again, would rule against abortion. Appointing three bog standard "conservatives" from the Federalist Society isn't something only Trump can do. Just admit you're a total Trump simp bro.
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Again if it was so easy, why didn't it happen during or after any other Republican administration, you dumbass? If it was so easy, why didn't it happen for 50 years? Let me guess another dodge so you can pretend you're one-upping me by just replying again. You're so bad a this I ask you direct questions and you just go back to your own script because you have nothing. And yeah sure, the Kavanaugh and Barret hearings were such a cake walk. Why don't you go back to talking about how great you think Liz Cheney is and then dolling out top hats because I said bad things about your queen? lol
 
Mothra1988 said:
Again if it was so easy, why didn't it happen during or after any other Republican administration, you dumbass? If it was so easy, why didn't it happen for 50 years? Let me guess another dodge so you can pretend you're one-upping me by just replying again. You're so bad a this I ask you direct questions and you just go back to your own script because you have nothing. And yeah sure, the Kavanaugh and Barret hearings were such a cake walk. Why don't you go back to talking about how great you think Liz Cheney is and then dolling out top hats because I said bad things about your queen? lol
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The president doesn't control the Supreme Court outside of appointments, and it just so happens that it takes a while for Supreme Court justices to die or retire. No other Republican president had Trump's opportunity, and Trump used it like any other Republican since the 80s would except he's a self-promoting narcissistic leading a cult of personality so when he says he did it, both his brainlet followers like you and his brainlet haters like the MSM say he did it, since no one understands basic civics like "separation of powers."
 
Let's hope then we see a red wave, the dems will do anything to stop it with illegal immigrants voting along with dead people. The guys of American Thinker posted a good blog post about the midterms. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/08/the_midterms_be_very_afraid.html

August 31, 2022

The midterms: Watch out!​

By Robert Vincent


In about two months as of this writing, the vast majority of rank and file Americans eagerly anticipate having the opportunity to finally start the process of righting the path of our dangerously out-of-control ship of state. Conservative commentators and some Republican political leaders (other than the RINOs) talk endlessly of a huge "red wave" that, in the words of one observer, will "destroy the Democratic Party as a national institution".
Polling data, conventional wisdom, and the horrendous performance of the Biden regime along with their lackeys in Congress — all point to such an outcome. But is that what is really in store for America?

To begin with, looking at the many irregularities that have been seen even in the recent primary season, it should now be clear that we have a long way to go until we can realistically expect genuinely free and fair elections. While substantial progress has been made in many parts of the country, many others are still plagued with crooked secretaries of state and highly dubious electronic voting systems. If the midterms do in fact take place, while Republicans might very well take back both houses of Congress, given what fraud will still likely occur, our margin of victory will probably be underwhelming. In the current circumstances, I submit that it would be downright foolish to expect much more than that.
Note the phrase in the paragraph above, if the midterms do in fact take place. We need to be prepared for the distinct possibility that they will not.

What will it mean if even a bare-majority Republican Congress is seated in January of 2023? First, it means that there will be a much larger contingent of MAGA Republicans in the mold of Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene. There will be at least a dozen, or perhaps even dozens; this will be a powerful political force. It will mean a new speaker of the House and a new Senate majority leader, also quite possibly MAGA, who will set an entirely new legislative agenda. It will mean almost immediate impeachment hearings for Biden, as well as other officials, such as A.G. Garland. It will mean additional hearings and investigations into all manner of corruption on the part of the Regime (e.g., what really happened on January 6, 2021?). The IRA could very well be repealed, and even if it isn't due to a presidential veto, any remaining aspect of Biden's agenda not signed into law by January will be consigned to the trash heap.
Most dangerously for the Regime, if they have not found a way to stop Trump from running in '24 by the time a new Republican Congress is seated four months from now, their chances of stopping him are all but nonexistent short of assassination. And even if they do stop him, the MAGA movement he started will only grow stronger; a President DeSantis taking office in January of '25 would be every bit as dangerous to the Regime as a President Trump, perhaps even more so.

In short, the Regime simply cannot afford to lose Congress. This is a matter of existential importance to them; many of their top leaders will face not only the loss of political power, but quite likely even long prison sentences or worse if they are ultimately held accountable. So if their internal polling is telling them in the coming weeks that they cannot "fraud" their way out of losing Congress, that voter sentiment against them is simply too strong to overcome with what fraud apparatus they have left, what might they do to avoid defeat?
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Super-Chevy454 said:
Let's hope then we see a red wave, the dems will do anything to stop it with illegal immigrants voting along with dead people. The guys of American Thinker posted a good blog post about the midterms. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/08/the_midterms_be_very_afraid.html
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Blah blah blah. So maybe the GOP “takes back the House” and maybe makes some gains in the Senate”. What changes? I guess wasting time on J6 would be off the menu in the House after January ‘23, to be replaced with wasting time on Impeachment even though there aren’t the votes in the Senate to convict and never will be. We just get gridlock and the President ruling through Executive Action and that’s nothing new. I guess the only change is that the President gets to use the GOP-controlled House/Senate as a new boogeyman to blame for everything.

No matter which “side” wins in these “elections”, the losers are the ones who buy into this bullshit
 
Save the Loli said:
The president doesn't control the Supreme Court outside of appointments, and it just so happens that it takes a while for Supreme Court justices to die or retire. No other Republican president had Trump's opportunity, and Trump used it like any other Republican since the 80s would except he's a self-promoting narcissistic leading a cult of personality so when he says he did it, both his brainlet followers like you and his brainlet haters like the MSM say he did it, since no one understands basic civics like "separation of powers."
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Trump literally said he was appointing SCOTUS justices that would-over turn Roe, and they literally did what he said they would. Acting like he had no part in it is asinine since that was one of the main criteria he used to choose them, you dope. This pathetic argument is retarded especially since there's a long history of Republican SCOTUS appointments that were supposed to be conservative but quickly flaked out and turned liberal when actually on the bench, something you are either ignorant of or are trying to memory hole.

Further more, AGAIN, these were some of the worst confirmation battles in history. Getting these people on the court was not a lay-up. Kavanaugh making it on the court almost didn't happen because the bullshit attacks on him spooked RINOs like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, yet here you are lying about it not being a big deal.

I don't know why you chose this hill to die on, but if anyone didn't think you were a butt hurt sperg before, that's down the toilet now. You calling anyone a brainlet is hilarious since you are so fucking stupid you think repeating the words "separation of powers" is a a magical spell that will erase people's memories of what Trump said about what his SCOTUS picks would do on the campaign trail before he even appointed them.

Just take your lumps, shut the fuck up and move on. Stop embarassing yourself. No, arguing that Trump's appointments don't count as accomplishments unless he literally put himself on the court and made the decision himself is not a logical or smart argument. You're a fucking idiot, and you should feel bad about it.
 
Mothra1988 said:
Trump literally said he was appointing SCOTUS justices that would-over turn Roe, and they literally did what he said they would. Acting like he had no part in it is asinine since that was one of the main criteria he used to choose them, you dope. This pathetic argument is retarded especially since there's a long history of Republican SCOTUS appointments that were supposed to be conservative but quickly flaked out and turned liberal when actually on the bench, something you are either ignorant of or are trying to memory hole.
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Oh yeah, like Samuel Alito, total liberal, right? Your idea of conservatives appointing liberal justices is straight from Richard Nixon's era it's so outdated, even Roberts agreed with Alito, Thomas, et. al on that abortion case. Trump just picked from the list his RINO buddies in the Federalist Society handed him, that's why gender identity is now a protected class.
Mothra1988 said:
Further more, AGAIN, these were some of the worst confirmation battles in history. Getting these people on the court was not a lay-up. Kavanaugh making it on the court almost didn't happen because the bullshit attacks on him spooked RINOs like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, yet here you are lying about it not being a big deal.
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Yeah because Clarence Thomas just sailed onto the Supreme Court no problem, and definitely Robert Bork did...oh wait, Bork WOULD HAVE obviously if he had a gawd empruh in orange at his back and not just a mere Gipper.
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I don't know why you chose this hill to die on, but if anyone didn't think you were a butt hurt sperg before, that's down the toilet now. You calling anyone a brainlet is hilarious since you are so fucking stupid you think repeating the words "separation of powers" is a a magical spell that will erase people's memories of what Trump said about what his SCOTUS picks would do on the campaign trail before he even appointed them.
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Because it's proof you're a numbskull. Attributing Roe v. Wade's repeal to Trump is like attributing Trump's election to Gamergate, as in shit only the dumbest of the MSM and Trump fans believed. You're a Trump simp, a cultist in his cult of personality. I'll see your point once you can answer why Dred Scott was Andrew Jackson/Martin van Buren's fault or Roe v. Wade was Eisenhower/Nixon's fault. Trump and his MSM haters have built an insane hype you've bought hook, line, and sinker. Sad!
 
Sarah Palin lost the special elections but as that article mentioned, they shouldn't take it as granted for the midterms.
September 1, 2022

Why the left shouldn't be crowing so loudly about that Sarah Palin defeat​

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Well, the left has got one. On Twitter and beyond, you've never heard such crowing:
According to Politico:
Democrat Mary Peltola has defeated Republican Sarah Palin in the special election for Alaska’s vacant House seat, a big upset over the former governor in the state’s first election under ranked-choice voting.
Peltola, a former state legislator who will become Alaska’s first indigenous member of Congress, defeated a special election field that included Palin and another Republican, Nick Begich III. The Democrat finished first in the initial tally and then won enough second-choice votes from Begich’s supporters to see off Palin, who had former President Donald Trump’s endorsement and previously won a statewide campaign in 2006.
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That 60% of the state could vote for a Republican, yet the seat should nevertheless go to a Democrat, is bitter news indeed for the Republicans. Ranked-choice voting, which in Alaska was introduced in this election, where the voters whose candidate is eliminated get to vote a second time, through their second choices, pretty well left enough holes for the Democrats to walk away with the seat.
In Palin's case, some voters didn't add a second choice to their ballot, and others voted for the Democrat as a second choice. Enough voters didn't check Palin to make the slate victorious for the Republicans, which is where the problem came in for Palin.
There's a lot to be said about the 'fairness' of this sort of rigging, which is also how San Francisco ended up with now-recalled Chesa Boudin as district attorney. If one subset of voters gets two votes, why don't all of them?
It's doubly sad because Sarah Palin had been the frontrunner and was attempting to make a political comeback. Palin had been unjustly hounded from office as governor in 2009, following her stint as John McCain's running mate in 2008, attracting grotesque amounts of demonizing attention from the left, as well as from sleazy McCain staffers leaking from inside the campaign. Her detractors painted Palin as a hick, and spread lies about her as corrupt, ignorant, and phony. It was a demonization that could only be compared to what they later did to Donald Trump, which is to say, Palin was the proto-Trump. Had she won, it would have been poetic justice.
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Save the Loli said:
Oh yeah, like Samuel Alito, total liberal, right? Your idea of conservatives appointing liberal justices is straight from Richard Nixon's era it's so outdated, even Roberts agreed with Alito, Thomas, et. al on that abortion case.
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David Souter was described as a "home run for conservatism" by Bush Sr. How did that turn out? That is definitely an example of what I'm talking about and it wasn't "straight out of Richard Nixon's era."

A bunch of other justices started out as being on the right and and lurched lefwatrd and wouldn't touch Roe with a ten foot pole. You don't mention Roberts, who was appointed by George W. Bush, either, who didn't vote for tossing Roe vs. Wade as precedent. If Roberts got his way, it wouldn't have happened. He said so explicitly. Trump literally tipped the balance on this issue with his purposeful appointments. Trump gets credit. End of story.

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Because it's proof you're a numbskull. Attributing Roe v. Wade's repeal to Trump is like attributing Trump's election to Gamergate, as in shit only the dumbest of the MSM and Trump fans believed.
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Holy shit, now you're talking about how you think Trump supporters believe GamerGate elected him. It's not people's fault you are a terminally online sperg and have never talked to anyone offline before. This explains how someone as stupid as you came into existence though. You're so mentally ill you think obscure shitposting on an image board somehow reflects greater reality.

Save the Loli said:
You're a Trump simp, a cultist in his cult of personality. I'll see your point once you can answer why Dred Scott was Andrew Jackson/Martin van Buren's fault or Roe v. Wade was Eisenhower/Nixon's fault. Trump and his MSM haters have built an insane hype you've bought hook, line, and sinker. Sad!
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No Stupid Pedo (that's your name now until you stop shitting up the thread), Trump said he would choose SCOTUS justices that would over-turn Roe, then he chose supreme court justices that did exactly that. He gets credit for doing what he said he would do. The fact your brain is so broken you can't understand logic this fucking simple is not anyone's fault but your own. You lost this debate, Stupid Pedo, fuck off and stop shitting up the thread. Everyone gets you think Orange Man Bad! Move on.
 
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Gisvarg said:
I can't tell if the left gaslighting is demoralizing me or if Republicans are doing it themselves, because I am becoming less convinced they can win this. I think the GOPE want the Dem to win.
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They’re all the same thing. What they’re doing is sticking to the script. No reason for you to be “demoralized” over the media stating that the GOP can’t “win” ,because regardless of which “side” “wins”, the show goes on.
 
Lorne Armstrong said:
Blah blah blah. So maybe the GOP “takes back the House” and maybe makes some gains in the Senate”. What changes? I guess wasting time on J6 would be off the menu in the House after January ‘23, to be replaced with wasting time on Impeachment even though there aren’t the votes in the Senate to convict and never will be. We just get gridlock and the President ruling through Executive Action and that’s nothing new. I guess the only change is that the President gets to use the GOP-controlled House/Senate as a new boogeyman to blame for everything.

No matter which “side” wins in these “elections”, the losers are the ones who buy into this bullshit
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What happens is they're gonna hold hearings. Just you wait until those Democrats have to go before Congress and submit to the intense scrutiny of hearings. Their hypocrisy is going to be pointed out on live TV, right on CSPAN. There will be clips on YouTube of Ted Cruz asking pithy questions and Merrick Garland stammering, looking like a total idiot. Once that happens, it's curtains for the left. Everyone will know that they're the REAL racists.
 
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