Law US 2020 census will be printed without citizenship question

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The Supreme Court found Thursday that the Trump administration did not give an adequate reason for adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census, blocking the question for at least the time being.

The move is a surprise win for advocates who opposed the question's addition, arguing it will lead to an inaccurate population count. The administration had argued the question was needed to enforce the Voting Rights Act (VRA).

The justices sent the issue back to the Commerce Department to provide another explanation.

Chief Justice John Roberts joined with the court's liberal wing in delivering the court's opinion.



Roberts wrote "that the decision to reinstate a citizenship question cannot be adequately explained in terms of [the Department of Justice's] request for improved citizenship data to better enforce the VRA."

"Several points, considered together, reveal a significant mismatch between the decision [Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross] made and the rationale he provided."

Roberts pointed to evidence showing that Ross, whose department oversees the census, intended to include a citizenship question on the census "about a week into his tenure, but it contains no hint that he was considering VRA enforcement in connection with that project."



And he noted that the Justice Department didn't indicate any interest in the citizenship data until contacted by Commerce officials, and that the evidence "suggests that DOJ's interest was directed more to helping the Commerce Department than to securing the data."

"Altogether, the evidence tells a story that does not match the explanation the secretary gave for his decision," Roberts wrote.

"In the Secretary's telling, Commerce was simply acting on a routine data request from another agency. Yet the materials before us indicate that Commerce went to great lengths to elicit the request from DOJ (or any other willing agency)," he continued. "And unlike a typical case in which an agency may have both stated and unstated reasons for a decision, here the VRA enforcement rationale-the sole stated reason-seems to have been contrived. We are presented, in other words, with an explanation for agency action that is incongruent with what the record reveals about the agency's priorities and decisionmaking process."



However, the chief justice said that the decision to add the citizenship question was not "substantively invalid."

"But agencies must pursue their goals reasonably," Roberts said. "What was provided here was more of a distraction."

While Trump officials had pointed to the VRA as reason to add the citizenship question, critics argued that asking about citizenship status would lead to an undercount of the total population. Census data is used for items like drawing congressional districts and allocating federal funds to states, and opponents said an inaccurate population count would harm Americans and cause some to not receive needed funds.



Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elana Kagan, the liberal members of the court, joined on the part of Roberts's opinion opposing the question.

Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh dissented.

In a dissenting opinion, Thomas wrote that, "For the first time ever, the court invalidates an agency action solely because it questions the sincerity of the agency's otherwise adequate rationale."

"This conclusion is extraordinary," he wrote. "The court engages in an unauthorized inquiry into evidence not properly before us to reach an unsupported conclusion."

Groups that had challenged the citizenship question's addition to the census in court quickly celebrated the ruling.

New York Attorney General Letitia James, whose state had led the lawsuit presented before the Supreme Court, said that because of Thursday's ruling "the census will remain a tool for delivering on our government's promise of fairness and equity, and states, like New York, will not be shortchanged out of critical resources or political representation."

"Our democracy withstood this challenge, but make no mistake, many threats continue to lie ahead from the Trump administration and we will not stop fighting. Now, more than ever, the marginalized, the disenfranchised, and everyday people need us to stand firm in our fight for justice. After all, everyone counts, and therefore, everyone must be counted."

The ruling is handed down as the Commerce Department says it has a deadline of June 30 - Sunday - to start printing census materials.

And it comes as another lawsuit challenging the question plays out in federal court in Maryland.

The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled this week that a district judge in Maryland could review whether there was a discriminatory intent behind the question's addition, in light of new evidence filed in the lawsuit. That opens the door for the judge to potentially block the question on those grounds, as it's a different legal question than the one presented to the Supreme Court.

That new evidence pertains to late Republican redistricting strategist Thomas Hofeller, as documents were recently uncovered from Hofeller's hard drives as part of a separate lawsuit in North Carolina that indicate he played a previously undisclosed role in the orchestration of the citizenship question.

The documents indicate that Hofeller conducted an unpublished study in 2015 that found asking about citizenship would help Republicans in redistricting, while hurting Latinx communities and Democrats.

It also suggests that Hofeller may have helped in the drafting of a memo used by the Trump administration to argue for the citizenship question. And emails also show that a Census Bureau staffer was in touch with Hofeller about the citizenship question back in 2015.

Documents relating to Hofeller's role have been filed in a pair of separate lawsuits challenging the citizenship question, in federal court in New York and Maryland. The New York lawsuit was the case under consideration by the Supreme Court

The ACLU has notified the Supreme Court of the evidence. And it requested that the justices send the case back down to a lower court, to allow new evidence to be officially added to the lawsuit - a motion the court is scheduled to discuss during a private conference Thursday.

But the Trump administration asked the justices to rule on whether the addition of the question violates equal protection claims, in an effort to preempt any action out of a lower court.

Groups challenging the citizenship question in federal court in Maryland also requested late Wednesday that District Judge George Hazel issue a preliminary injunction by Friday to block the question from appearing on the census.

Hazel, an Obama appointee, has asked the Trump administration to reply to that request by 8 p.m. Thursday.

Tldr the Court ruled the argument for why should the question be added was bad so it got blocked, it may still pass if a better argument is made up
EDIT: It will be officially printed without the question

EDIT 2: according to Trump that was fake news
 
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Yeah the Midwesterner in me definitely holds a special bit of unfettered wrath towards the "holier than thou," "shit doesn't stink," "high on their own farts" coastal city strongholds rife with illegal alien activity. I hope that when this is all said and done, and it turns out huge portions of the coastal populations (especially the West Coast) aren't even citizens, that the Trump administration makes those places feel it for years to come.

Fuck every last one of those commies.

I'm of the opinion that illegal immigration cannot possibly be the apocalyptic threat that people say it is but I second this. I want to see the numbers, and when those assholes hide them like this it makes fence-sitters like me a lot more suspicious that the people shouting about niggerspic armies or whatever may have a point.
 
Eh I hate the nationwide injunctions stopping stuff like this but at the same time it'll be nice when gun grabbers take over congress and the whitehouse and a random judge in Alabama stops them from violating our second amendment rights.
lol no, Conservative Judges will be too hesitent to use their power like that out of fear it might be unconstitutional
 
lol no, Conservative Judges will be too hesitent to use their power like that out of fear it might be unconstitutional


Sigh Up to us then.

ALT RIGHT TO THE RESCUE THEN.

WHITE RIDER RIDES THROUGHT THE DARKNESS WHITE SWORD OVER HIS HEAD HE RIDES QUICKLY WITH HIS DESIRE, HE RIDES THROUGHT SAD EUROPE. WITH DUST OF THE ROAD IS HE SPLATTERED, HE BEARS HIS MESSAGE, BLOODY IS HIS GAZE, HE RIDES ALONE EVERYONE KNOWS.
 
It's a big country with mountains and deserts sitting in between the continental United States and the core parts of the country.
The US also had to deal with territorial disputes along the northern border in the race to settle and claim to the Pacific.

I'd also put down that Mexico is a seemingly eternally politically unstable country. Whoever said that if Mexico wasn't sitting next to the world's biggest economy they'd be another Afghanistan was right on.

At least in a modern perspective, annexing Northern Mexico wouldn't have been a bad move on the US' interests. People in Northern Mexico are generally more conservative than their southern counterparts and honestly hate the caravans more than we do. Gastelum, the Mayor of Tijuana, likes wearing a Make Tijuana Great Again hat.

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I'm of the opinion that illegal immigration cannot possibly be the apocalyptic threat that people say it is but I second this. I want to see the numbers, and when those assholes hide them like this it makes fence-sitters like me a lot more suspicious that the people shouting about niggerspic armies or whatever may have a point.

Come to South Texas

Come and see thee the multitudes
 
Come to South Texas

Come and see thee the multitudes

You guys have an urban asshole known as El Paso/Juarez. I'm totally unsurprised that such a place is fucked with illegals, thugs and psychotics. I doubt even Pedofornia is as much of a fucking nightmare as that area. South Texas absolutely has an illegal immigrant issue, but its the fault of that mutantwhore schizocity and not the policies of any one agency.
 
If you want to see what Donald Trump acts like when he's not wearing "The Donald" mask, just go back to his old interviews, before he invented that bombastic personality to throw people off.
Great interview. The mask, as you said, the character he plays isn't there but the man hasn't changed his beliefs for anyone of anything in 3+ decades. He was always a patriot.
 
It's plain why Democrats push the census so hard. If Trump manages to somehow get the loads of illegals off the census records the Democrats stand to lose a lot of ooomph in the places where they are currently the strongest (the big cities). It's no wonder they're freaking out internally, they can't really get their usual lap dogs in the MSM to say out right that they need illegals to be count so that the big Democrat stronghold can stay strong and soak up the Fed'd funds and House Rep's, so they're having issues framing it in a way they can sell the idea to the moderate voter.

IE: we need to keep the census the same because.....uh racism! and...erm Orange Man Bad! and...because that's how its always been done! They really don't have a position to protest from without giving away the real reason they need to have the illegals counted. How do you justify giving American Citizens tax money to non-citizens who don't pay thier share of income tax. Tough sell even for the spin masters in the MSM.

If Trump does somehow manage to get the census results changed it may radically alter the power balance in the House and on certain important committees causing the Democrats no end of grief. And just wait until the apportions for the tax base money come around, I wonder how many of the major cities would see a serious reduction in funds once all the illegals are discounted.

Sorry San Fran, you can't claim funds based on the 8 million people you counted in your last census now you can only draw funds based on 6.5 million citizen. Uh-oh! All those free programs you used to buy your votes now are going to cost you a lot more to keep running.

This may seem like a trivial matter but it underpins a lot of the power of the major blue cities to push their agendas.




Shine on you crazy Trump diamond...shine on.
I can't wait to see that Sanctuary City ploy backfire. They won't get the benefits of inflating their population numbers with hundreds of thousands of non-citizens, and now they have to find a way to take care of them. I hope they've stockpile a whole lot of compassion.
As someone who doesn't follow US politics to any degree: why should the decade-ly census not keep track of the number of people in the country who are not citizens, aside from "woke-agenda" bullshit?
That's the insane thing. It absolutely should count that. They count every other aspect of US citizens, race, gender, age, income, ect., but the one question we can't ask is "are you even a citizen"? As others said, it's about inflating their numbers to increase their voting power.
I'm of the opinion that illegal immigration cannot possibly be the apocalyptic threat that people say it is but I second this. I want to see the numbers, and when those assholes hide them like this it makes fence-sitters like me a lot more suspicious that the people shouting about niggerspic armies or whatever may have a point.
How could it not be an apocalyptic threat? What happens to a country when you flood it with people that doesn't care about the country, doesn't know anything about it's history or laws, people that think the country is founded on stolen land and it rightfully belongs to them, and the people in power constantly tell them that the country hates them and systematically work to keep them oppressed? This is a problem 40 years on the making and today, literally today, we have politicians telling illegals how to avoid being lawfully deported. This can only get worse moving forward and it's not heading to a good place.
 
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Nice. Yeah, there's no fucking way that this entire idea was slapped together inside of a week or two, this looks like it was the plan the entire time.
I guarantee you woke twitter is going to fixate on the frequent usage of the term "illegal alien" the moment one of them actually reads the text of the order.
 
How could it not be an apocalyptic threat? What happens to a country when you flood it with people that doesn't care about the country, doesn't know anything about it's history or laws, people that think the country is founded on stolen land and it rightfully belongs to them, and the people in power constantly tell them that the country hates them and systematically work to keep them oppressed? This is a problem 40 years on the making and today, literally today, we have politicians telling illegals how to avoid being lawfully deported. This can only get worse moving forward and it's not heading to a good place.

Its certainly not a good thing but its gonna take more than a few million spic thugs to bring America down from the inside out.
 
You guys have an urban asshole known as El Paso/Juarez. I'm totally unsurprised that such a place is fucked with illegals, thugs and psychotics. I doubt even Pedofornia is as much of a fucking nightmare as that area. South Texas absolutely has an illegal immigrant issue, but its the fault of that mutantwhore schizocity and not the policies of any one agency.


El Paso is an unmitigated shithole, but it's separated from the rest of Texas by hundreds of miles of desert and mountains.

It's the disgusting mess that is South Texas, which shares a porous border with Central Europe Texas that concerns me
 
You guys have an urban asshole known as El Paso/Juarez. I'm totally unsurprised that such a place is fucked with illegals, thugs and psychotics. I doubt even Pedofornia is as much of a fucking nightmare as that area. South Texas absolutely has an illegal immigrant issue, but its the fault of that mutantwhore schizocity and not the policies of any one agency.
El Paso is not South Texas. He's talking about places that have exploded like McAllen.
 
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