Law US 2020 census will be printed without citizenship question

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The Supreme Court found Thursday that the Trump administration did not give an adequate reason for adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census, blocking the question for at least the time being.

The move is a surprise win for advocates who opposed the question's addition, arguing it will lead to an inaccurate population count. The administration had argued the question was needed to enforce the Voting Rights Act (VRA).

The justices sent the issue back to the Commerce Department to provide another explanation.

Chief Justice John Roberts joined with the court's liberal wing in delivering the court's opinion.



Roberts wrote "that the decision to reinstate a citizenship question cannot be adequately explained in terms of [the Department of Justice's] request for improved citizenship data to better enforce the VRA."

"Several points, considered together, reveal a significant mismatch between the decision [Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross] made and the rationale he provided."

Roberts pointed to evidence showing that Ross, whose department oversees the census, intended to include a citizenship question on the census "about a week into his tenure, but it contains no hint that he was considering VRA enforcement in connection with that project."



And he noted that the Justice Department didn't indicate any interest in the citizenship data until contacted by Commerce officials, and that the evidence "suggests that DOJ's interest was directed more to helping the Commerce Department than to securing the data."

"Altogether, the evidence tells a story that does not match the explanation the secretary gave for his decision," Roberts wrote.

"In the Secretary's telling, Commerce was simply acting on a routine data request from another agency. Yet the materials before us indicate that Commerce went to great lengths to elicit the request from DOJ (or any other willing agency)," he continued. "And unlike a typical case in which an agency may have both stated and unstated reasons for a decision, here the VRA enforcement rationale-the sole stated reason-seems to have been contrived. We are presented, in other words, with an explanation for agency action that is incongruent with what the record reveals about the agency's priorities and decisionmaking process."



However, the chief justice said that the decision to add the citizenship question was not "substantively invalid."

"But agencies must pursue their goals reasonably," Roberts said. "What was provided here was more of a distraction."

While Trump officials had pointed to the VRA as reason to add the citizenship question, critics argued that asking about citizenship status would lead to an undercount of the total population. Census data is used for items like drawing congressional districts and allocating federal funds to states, and opponents said an inaccurate population count would harm Americans and cause some to not receive needed funds.



Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elana Kagan, the liberal members of the court, joined on the part of Roberts's opinion opposing the question.

Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh dissented.

In a dissenting opinion, Thomas wrote that, "For the first time ever, the court invalidates an agency action solely because it questions the sincerity of the agency's otherwise adequate rationale."

"This conclusion is extraordinary," he wrote. "The court engages in an unauthorized inquiry into evidence not properly before us to reach an unsupported conclusion."

Groups that had challenged the citizenship question's addition to the census in court quickly celebrated the ruling.

New York Attorney General Letitia James, whose state had led the lawsuit presented before the Supreme Court, said that because of Thursday's ruling "the census will remain a tool for delivering on our government's promise of fairness and equity, and states, like New York, will not be shortchanged out of critical resources or political representation."

"Our democracy withstood this challenge, but make no mistake, many threats continue to lie ahead from the Trump administration and we will not stop fighting. Now, more than ever, the marginalized, the disenfranchised, and everyday people need us to stand firm in our fight for justice. After all, everyone counts, and therefore, everyone must be counted."

The ruling is handed down as the Commerce Department says it has a deadline of June 30 - Sunday - to start printing census materials.

And it comes as another lawsuit challenging the question plays out in federal court in Maryland.

The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled this week that a district judge in Maryland could review whether there was a discriminatory intent behind the question's addition, in light of new evidence filed in the lawsuit. That opens the door for the judge to potentially block the question on those grounds, as it's a different legal question than the one presented to the Supreme Court.

That new evidence pertains to late Republican redistricting strategist Thomas Hofeller, as documents were recently uncovered from Hofeller's hard drives as part of a separate lawsuit in North Carolina that indicate he played a previously undisclosed role in the orchestration of the citizenship question.

The documents indicate that Hofeller conducted an unpublished study in 2015 that found asking about citizenship would help Republicans in redistricting, while hurting Latinx communities and Democrats.

It also suggests that Hofeller may have helped in the drafting of a memo used by the Trump administration to argue for the citizenship question. And emails also show that a Census Bureau staffer was in touch with Hofeller about the citizenship question back in 2015.

Documents relating to Hofeller's role have been filed in a pair of separate lawsuits challenging the citizenship question, in federal court in New York and Maryland. The New York lawsuit was the case under consideration by the Supreme Court

The ACLU has notified the Supreme Court of the evidence. And it requested that the justices send the case back down to a lower court, to allow new evidence to be officially added to the lawsuit - a motion the court is scheduled to discuss during a private conference Thursday.

But the Trump administration asked the justices to rule on whether the addition of the question violates equal protection claims, in an effort to preempt any action out of a lower court.

Groups challenging the citizenship question in federal court in Maryland also requested late Wednesday that District Judge George Hazel issue a preliminary injunction by Friday to block the question from appearing on the census.

Hazel, an Obama appointee, has asked the Trump administration to reply to that request by 8 p.m. Thursday.

Tldr the Court ruled the argument for why should the question be added was bad so it got blocked, it may still pass if a better argument is made up
EDIT: It will be officially printed without the question

EDIT 2: according to Trump that was fake news
 
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I think fox is trying to get those two hispanic marines who were assaulted by antifa on Tucker and Hannity.

We could see the leap in logic where Hispanics and anything mexican is deemed white supremacist by antifa and must be destroyed.

I mean you know what was invented in America? Tacos, burritos, and nachos.
 
I'm expecting to see A) Antifa faggots keeping anyone conservative/doesn't agree with them from voting by attacking them at the polls. B) People being killed for trying to vote for anything but democraps by antifa faggots or antifa sympathizing weirdos, CNN spinning either events to make it appear the other way around, massive social media misinformation and all kinds of manufactured shit.

It's not outside of the realm of possibility. Sanders is as guilty as Trump is for not denouncing political violence, especially since he's purportedly a pacifist. Sadly I think that certain interests might view that chaos as beneficial to their pocketbooks and will do everything they can to steer us towards such barbarism.

We really see these antifa people's grasp of the basic tenets of Marxism when they purchase luxury goods such as milkshakes to assault their fellow poorfags with.
 
You're thinking of Kennedy. It was basically his way of getting in a last press-positive hurrah before his retirement.

It was sort of like how part of McCain's motivation to grandstand and shoot down the Obamacare repeal was the positive press he knew he'd get.
Well, too bad for him. SJWs hate him for making way for dat WAYCIS WAPIS KABUHNAW.
 
Neocon Don rolled over again. I for one am shocked by this news.



These are the kinds of wins he needs for 2020, though. He can’t even own da libs. He’s been one of the least effective presidents since World War II and probably long before then too.
What's he supposed to do? He's not actually god emporor.

Least effective presidents? We could use more of this kind of ineffectiveness. Is it the economy booming or maybe the unemployment being so low that bothers you?
 
I just can't get over the fact the government of a country asking someone in their country if they're a citizen of their country is somehow controversial.
 
I just can't get over the fact the government of a country asking someone in their country if they're a citizen of their country is somehow controversial.

it's legal faggotry to call "black" "white", even though everyone sees it as black. Sense and logic are no longer used.
 
Whether or not you are a citizen of this country seems like important information.

I kind of think we need another really bad plague or something, things are getting extra bonus level stupid.
 
It's not outside of the realm of possibility. Sanders is as guilty as Trump is for not denouncing political violence, especially since he's purportedly a pacifist. Sadly I think that certain interests might view that chaos as beneficial to their pocketbooks and will do everything they can to steer us towards such barbarism.

We really see these antifa people's grasp of the basic tenets of Marxism when they purchase luxury goods such as milkshakes to assault their fellow poorfags with.
Didn't Karl Marx once say that the best way to fight crapitalism was to post interracial porn and anime traps on the internet? Jokes aside, it always amuses me to see gays and the like waving around Soviet flags. I've never met someone from the soviet union who was more accepting of LGBT stuff than the average american. Hell Stalin threw em in camps.
 
I'm baffled because there's no legal requirement for a "rationale", that's just a completely subjective term and has nothing to do with whether or not the census question is Constitutional, which they... Just ruled that it was. C. Thomas even says in this document (Pg. 36) that even though they were "Unable to identify any legal problem with the Secretary’s reasoning, the Court imputes one by concluding that he must not be telling the truth. The Court therefore upholds the decision of the District Court—which, in turn, was transparently based on the application of an administration-specific standard."

At least I'm not the only one who found this decision baffling. C. Thomas doesn't seem to like it at all.

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Come on dude, you saw the Democratic debates, people are getting their palms greased on the side to try and eliminate tracking citizenship, giving non-citizens, legal citizen services, and then, eventually, removing the idea of citizenship altogether.

So next time you get in trouble with the government, and you tell them you have rights, they can just say, "the government eliminated citizenship, none of you have rights anymore, for all intents and purposes, you are all just, government supported refugees..... I mean, look at how successful China has been! We want that quasi slave labor force"
 
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I'd be sorely tempted to just print the census with the question anyways, and then inform the judiciary, a la Andrew Jackson, 'Do something about it.'
 
The 4 liberals, one of which is barely even alive and hasn't been seen by the general public in quite some time, dominated the so called "right wing court." The Hardcore Left-Wing Four always stick together, and the 5 right wing people are always on their Own Fucking Program. Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito for all their faults are the only reliable conservative votes on the court now. You have no idea which one of Chief Faggot Roberts and the 2 fresh-meat faggots in Gorsuch and Kavanaugh will side with the Hardcore 4 on a major issue, but its almost always at least one of them.

Clarence and Alito have been talking for the entire Trump Administration about the need to reign in lawfare and obstructionist circuit court tactics and Roberts just gave that the green light. That libertarian moron Gorsuch is moving the court to abolish probation and parole. All sorts of shit like that.
 
Brightside is Texas will be overrepresented in Congress and the EC

Downside is same for California
 
It's not outside of the realm of possibility. Sanders is as guilty as Trump is for not denouncing political violence, especially since he's purportedly a pacifist. Sadly I think that certain interests might view that chaos as beneficial to their pocketbooks and will do everything they can to steer us towards such barbarism.

We really see these antifa people's grasp of the basic tenets of Marxism when they purchase luxury goods such as milkshakes to assault their fellow poorfags with.
Trump is not guilty of not denouncing political violence. He just refuses to pretend it's only the right doing it.

Just because something gets repeated over and over doesn't make it more true. As history has shown, his comment about good and bad actors on BOTH SIDES (Dem vs repub) was very true. Of course, if you decide both sides means "Decent good people and evil racist nazis" then hey, he's a nazi lover. But that has no actual basis in reality.
 
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Interesting. I was wondering when he was going to chime in about this, because I can't help but notice that every single time the Democrats start running a victory lap, they make it about halfway down the field before someone sticks their foot out and trips them, so I wonder what the deal with this one's going to be considering that the census was allegedly already being printed.

It's mostly just the same dozen nutbags that it always is, but if you're interested there's a lot of salt in the replies.
 
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Interesting. I was wondering when he was going to chime in about this, because I can't help but notice that every single time the Democrats start running a victory lap, they make it about halfway down the field before someone sticks their foot out and trips them, so I wonder what the deal with this one's going to be considering that the census was allegedly already being printed.

It's mostly just the same dozen nutbags that it always is, but if you're interested there's a lot of salt in the replies.
Lol what even is this seesaw administration. Pick a message and stick with it and stop with the tennis match waffling.
 
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