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Big Shot said:
He is also a dipshit who keeps giving misleading information and distracts us so he can talk to Kris about nefarious things behind our back.
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The only people in the fun gang who don't know the prophecy are Susie and us. Ralsei and Kris know the prophecy. Ralsei knows because it's his purpose to know. Kris knows because it's the focal point of not only a famous game series he has played but also the religion a large part of the town participates in.

It's nebulous as to whether Ralsei knows about us, but from what can be inferred of the prophecy itself, Ralsei thinks it is a genuine kindness for Susie to not know how it ends.
 
Relinquish said:
I don’t get why some people in this thread have an extreme hatred towards Ralsei. Yes he is a faggot but he’s a lovable faggot. I’ve even catch myself smiling at times when seeing him on screen
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i think a lot of people, myself included, just really don't like the "fluffy boy" shtick. i like when he's an innocent goofball but i can see why the "the power of fluffy boys is with you" save point in chapter 1 turned off a lot of people from the rest of the game
Relinquish said:
After suffering through years of bullshit about Ralsei being “le evil”, I don’t trust these gay ass theories. I’m going all in, Bossmanjack style, on all of these theories being fucking bullshit
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i don't think he's evil, i think he's just trying to keep things on track and knows that kris has an agent of chaos in his body, so it's like he has to act as a stagehand as well as an actor in the prophecy.
 
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Aliexpress has some amusing DR bootlegs. They never put them on muscle tanks though which would be the funniest thing to do with this design.

Autistic Gunspergings said:
Am I just missing everything interesting here?
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I'm one of the very few unironic tumblr users left and from what I've seen the response to Deltarune there is much more centered on weird fanart (lots of dumb Tom and Jerry shit with Spamton/Tenna) than arguing about Kris' gender or doing weird AU nonsense, That "NOELLE WILL WATCH FROM THE CHAIR" meme came from there too so guess that says something about the userbase's sense of humor. I think the only people left there have aged out of AU nonsense.

Big Shot said:
He is also a dipshit who keeps giving misleading information and distracts us so he can talk to Kris about nefarious things behind our back.
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This is honestly why I like him. He's very clearly fucked up and broken in some way rather than just being a token cute character. It's not going to end well for him and I'd much rather have that than the Undertale pacifist power of love/friendship stuff.
 
I like Ralsei, he feels like the best possible outcome for the other characters like Jevil and Spamton. He saw too far, but he refuses to let it completely break him. He knows something truly horrible is coming, but he persists anyway. He's truly... Determined. And after the way he totalled the Gerson "statue" (I think that was actually Gerson, malformed by Susie's fountain. He lied to Susie.) and the fire magic he uses in some acts, fluffy boy is clearly holding out on us in the combat department.

I also think he's the one calling Kris's phone.
 
Dorothy said:
On my way to work, I was listening to a theory. W.D. Gaster wasn't the one that threw away your vessel. Notice the tone shift during the "survey".

Gaster helped and was more than happy to give you a vessel. The process was hijacked by an outside source that forced you into Kris.

The crazy theory is that the person that hijacked it was Kris himself.
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Asriel was the most obvious candidate for me, since that "your name is" is a callback to the dumpster scene from Undertale, and we have no idea how he fits on the disappearance of Dess conspiracy so him having a hand on Kris being controled by us would make him more apart of it outside of "fucked Dess and now is off to college", but Kris also makes a good candidate.
I like Ralsei but his "cute UwU" personality tends to be grating to me, but these last few chapters showed that there was more to his character made him more interesting and made me look forward for possible character growth on the next chapters. He still looked better when he was black tho.
 
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I look forward to chapter 5’s jealous Asgore vs Sans.

Also the flower shop may burn down.

At least, that’s what I’m assuming based on Gerson’s hint during the secret boss fight.
 
Dumpster dived waifu said:
The only people in the fun gang who don't know the prophecy are Susie and us. Ralsei and Kris know the prophecy. Ralsei knows because it's his purpose to know. Kris knows because it's the focal point of not only a famous game series he has played but also the religion a large part of the town participates in.

It's nebulous as to whether Ralsei knows about us, but from what can be inferred of the prophecy itself, Ralsei thinks it is a genuine kindness for Susie to not know how it ends.
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He does know, that's why he tries to send you away when he can to talk to Kris alone.
 
I want an Asgore fight where he's actually trying to kill us, not holding back like he was in UT. We've had Undyne the Undying, give me Asgore the Unyielding or something.

Or have him beat the shit out of Sans.
 
What if papyrus is secret service for the mayor like a 180 from his goofy undertale self
 
Dr. Ricearoni said:
Edit: I forgot, the house from the outside is flipped 45 degrees when you enter, meaning the fountain wouldn't be to the north, it'd be to the east. There's plenty of places it could be to the east of the house, but I think the most interesting potential location is around the lake.
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The Door you leave the dark world faces to the south, tough. Although I really think that's just overthinking it.
Dr. Ricearoni said:
Ok hear me out what if the reason tv darkners started petrifying when it started getting freezing cold in the studio is because the second fountain was some sort of Christmas themed dark world that started overtaking the studio
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There is only 1 TV-Darkner that petrified, which was Ramb, and thats because he isn't really part of the Demurr household. Can't remember anyone else petrifying.


Something I thought is suspicious is how notably different the Queens basement stands out from the rest of the Cyber World Theme. It's an overgrown shelter with FRIENDs inside, and nobody made the obvious connection yet, as far as I can tell.
 
Max Free said:
The Door you leave the dark world faces to the south, tough. Although I really think that's just overthinking it.

There is only 1 TV-Darkner that petrified, which was Ramb, and thats because he isn't really part of the Demurr household. Can't remember anyone else petrifying.


Something I thought is suspicious is how notably different the Queens basement stands out from the rest of the Cyber World Theme. It's an overgrown shelter with FRIENDs inside, and nobody made the obvious connection yet, as far as I can tell.
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There's a zapper outside the greenroom who petrified too.
 
Max Free said:
Thats just the zapper stolen from the cattenheimer household. The Pippins right next to him states that.
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I could've sworn what the pippins says is that he was taken from the school and that he doesn't understand why the zapper petrified instead of him, as payoff for earlier dialogue where the zapper reassures him that he fits right in.
 
Just talk to him multiple times.
The items might be confused where they are actually from (or Kris is).
 
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