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On my way to work, I was listening to a theory. W.D. Gaster wasn't the one that threw away your vessel. Notice the tone shift during the "survey".

Gaster helped and was more than happy to give you a vessel. The process was hijacked by an outside source that forced you into Kris.

The crazy theory is that the person that hijacked it was Kris himself.
 
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Dorothy said:
On my way to work, I was listening to a theory. W.D. Gaster wasnt the one that threw away your vessel. Notice the tone shift during the "survey".

Gaster helped and was more than happy to give you a vessel. The process was hijacked by an outside source that forced you into Kris.

The crazy theory is that the person that hijacked it was Kris himself.
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I heard that theory too, I think it's widely believed that SOMEONE interrupted him but Kris is definitely a new candidate. If it's true it's definitely someone in the Carol-Kris-Knight coalition.
 
Dorothy said:
The crazy theory is that the person that hijacked it was Kris himself.
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Catti and Kris did a ritual to summon a demon, he has an interest in the occult. Kris doing it is the only one that makes sense unless you think Chara is gonna show up at the last second for some reason.

He is clearly working towards some grand plan and needs you to play a part. People who say the player is the villain no matter what are probably not thinking about how Kris did this shit to himself.
 
Dumpster dived waifu said:
Also, why does the dark world include a snowy area with a Chrismas tree?
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It's the refrigerator. You start off in the couch (dusty and baren), proceed to TV world, and end at the refrigerator (vast and cold). Don't ask me why there's a Christmas tree jpeg, maybe it's some Christmas magnet stuck on the fridge or something.

There are NPCs that allude to the fact that there were more lands far beyond (I think one mentioned a kitchen area) but Tenna or some other force warped everything to be a mostly TV world.
 
Deus Exica said:
Catti and Kris did a ritual to summon a demon, he has an interest in the occult. Kris doing it is the only one that makes sense unless you think Chara is gonna show up at the last second for some reason.

He is clearly working towards some grand plan and needs you to play a part. People who say the player is the villain no matter what are probably not thinking about how Kris did this shit to himself.
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I don’t buy the idea of Catti being involved simply because she talks about her and Kris messing with demon summoning like it was a distant memory, not something that happened literally yesterday. Unless Kris did it without her, that works too.

Also, it’s funny going back to watch Chapter 1 playthroughs and seeing people speculate about how Chara is totally back and gonna do another genocide for real the moment they see Kris with a knife.
 
Two Dollars said:
I don’t buy the idea of Catti being involved simply because she talks about her and Kris messing with demon summoning like it was a distant memory, not something that happened literally yesterday. Unless Kris did it without her, that works too.

Also, it’s funny going back to watch Chapter 1 playthroughs and seeing people speculate about how Chara is totally back and gonna do another genocide for real the moment they see Kris with a knife.
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I don't trust her or that snake
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Deus Exica said:
Catti and Kris did a ritual to summon a demon, he has an interest in the occult. Kris doing it is the only one that makes sense unless you think Chara is gonna show up at the last second for some reason.

He is clearly working towards some grand plan and needs you to play a part. People who say the player is the villain no matter what are probably not thinking about how Kris did this shit to himself.
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The whole "nothing you do matters" is very mopey and Kris like. That part didn't seem Gaster like, but an edgy Nihilistic teenager.
 
Mrcacapoopoo said:
MUNCH CRUNCH* YUMMY YUM!!! Thanks for coming over for my tri-daily KEKKING session, sans-sama, you really know how to JUMP my ex-wife's BONES, or should I say HAVE SEX with her in FRONT of me!!! You even put on "I Write Sins Not Tragedies" to set the mood, you really know how to sweat the details while putting on the most AWFUL music ever!!! JUMPIN JABRONIS, there you are kris!!!! You're just in time for watching your old man get KEKKED!!! Someday you can try this with your purple lady friend *nudge nudge*!!! Did you know I recently took to being a glorified maid at the Holiday residence and I even got complimentary salt crackers after getting pegged by the mayor for being a good kekaroo!!!!! NOMNOMNOM, oh man I LOVE eating all this fattening SLOP while I watch my family CRUMBLE in REAL TIME, YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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Relinquish said:
he’s a lovable faggot
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Given that all theories about him relate to Kris's goat self insert or Asriel, means Kris is a retarded tranny with a auto-goat-ophilia fetish or wants to fuck his brother. There's zero good interpretations that can come from it

He is also a dipshit who keeps giving misleading information and distracts us so he can talk to Kris about nefarious things behind our back.
 
Big Shot said:
Given that all theories about him relate to Kris's goat self insert or Asriel, means Kris is a retarded tranny with a auto-goat-ophilia fetish or wants to fuck his brother. There's zero good interpretations that can come from it
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After suffering through years of bullshit about Ralsei being “le evil”, I don’t trust these gay ass theories. I’m going all in, Bossmanjack style, on all of these theories being fucking bullshit
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He is also a dipshit who keeps giving misleading information and distracts us so he can talk to Kris about nefarious things behind our back.
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It is indeed sus but I wouldn’t go as far as to call things “nefarious”. I feel like immediately jumping to the worst case scenario is a wrong move considering his explanation about hiding the ending of prophecy. You need to give my man some slack
 
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