UN UK Snap election 8th June 2017 - Oh boy another U turn.

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AnAspieWithAVengeance said:
Good God, Labour really are a headless chicken right now.
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It's great too as the last person they sent on Daily Politics today was David "Millions of Indians died for the Euopean Project in WW2" Lammy.

Because sending out one idiot wasn't enough.

Meanwhile Labour has launched their last ditch effort the day before with the delightful video encouraging the young to extol the virtous of Thy lord and Savior Jeremy Corbyn the Labour Party and that they should vote for them and not that meanie nasty May.

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Choice image for you and the full video right here.

OH! Sorry, that seems to be a link to a Guardian article where Britain Stronger in Europe tried the same tactic last year and we all know how well that tactic that turned out, didn't we?

Here's the video, I promise.


Also enjoy the rumour mill as Owen Jones, trendy leftie journalist and endless Labour Party cheerleader.... is being frozen out of the Labour Press office, along with lots of other journos as Labour HQ seems oddly panicked...

Almost like the postal vote sampling is showing a massive Tory Lead or something.

Hrm.
 
I'd like to take this opportunity to say that all reports on Diane Abbott being dropped due to 'illness' are using the word 'temporarily'

It's almost certain that if Comrade Corbachev gets in, he will reinstate the Abbopotomus.
 
Lorento said:
Don't give the Green Party more ideas.
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Sounds like something that daft women's only party would do.

"Mummy mummy the one eyed snake keeps taking some of my money!"

"Oh yes dear, that's the trouser snake, it sneaks into your pockets and takes 25% of your earnings."

"Why?"

"It just does, dear."

VOTE WYMENZ EQUALITY AND WE WILL KILL THE ONE EYED TROUSER SNEK.
 
Chemical snorfare said:
You're right, we need more political ads where 6 year old girls say "one eyed trouser snake".
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What's wrong with "purple headed yoghurt warrior?"

Anyhow. I'm thinking that May is on the right track with terror legislation in a way. We don't need more anti-terror legislation, we just need to enforce what we have. Radio 4 this morning had an argument over banning end to end encryption but I had to turn it off because it was so autistic; none of them understood that end to end encryption is what makes e-commerce possible.

If the security services want to get someone's messages, then they don't need to force Apple or Google to build a backdoor for them. They just do what one enterprising agent did and get a warrant to force the suspect's thumb onto the fingerprint sensor.

(This is why you don't use fingerprint only locking on your phone. Also someone can lift your prints from elsewhere, make a mould of it out of blu-tack, and use that as a fake finger to unlock your phone.)

Human rights does need an overhaul because there are some frankly nutso decisions coming down the stack based on them. A lot of judges look askance at human rights arguments because they are crank magnets. When I was in legal aid the judges in my area would hive off all human rights arguments as a preliminary issue and have an interim hearing just to see whether or not it was arguable and if not, strike out that part of the claim to weed out the nutters. Also just because someone has had their human rights infringed doesn't automatically make them a nice person - Moazzam Begg, for instance.
 
I was *ahem* "reading" The Sun in cafe earlier (cant find the online version of the print edition)
Apparently May is going to lead us into terrorist free uplands by...

Repealing all human rights legislation...so that trial by jury shit then?
Locking terrorist suspects up for 28 days...like they do already then?
something something immigration...cos she has done so well on that one.

BTW, the bolding is exactly how they had it.
How in gods name does this rag even get to call itself a "newspaper".
 
Ginger Piglet said:
What's wrong with "purple headed yoghurt warrior?"

Anyhow. I'm thinking that May is on the right track with terror legislation in a way. We don't need more anti-terror legislation, we just need to enforce what we have.
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This is something that continues to infuriate me, both in my country and yours.

Face the facts that Tories have eviscerated law enforcement in your country by constantly de-funding all of the agencies that actually enforce laws.

Meanwhile, they propose nearly Orwellian police state laws, ignoring the fact that currently existing laws, if enforced, would actually accomplish the same ends.

It's almost a good thing they don't actually fund the fascist policies they endorse, but it's pretty sad that their failure to fund law enforcement means the laws everyone actually agrees on also don't get enforced.

The US has this problem to a lesser degree because our very well funded prison system demands occupants and therefore, even our really stupid laws get enforced really harshly.
 
Chemical snorfare said:
I was *ahem* "reading" The Sun in cafe earlier (cant find the online version of the print edition)
Apparently May is going to lead us into terrorist free uplands by...

Repealing all human rights legislation...so that trial by jury shit then?
Locking terrorist suspects up for 28 days...like they do already then?
something something immigration...cos she has done so well on that one.

BTW, the bolding is exactly how they had it.
How in gods name does this rag even get to call itself a "newspaper".
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Well, for starters the first one is encoded into many many other aspects of British law and even has its basis within the Magna Carta, which nobody will ever repeal lest they find themselves attacked with pitchforks and torches. We don't need the HRA to tell us this.

Second, they can only do so via a court order and if there's enough evidence to justify the extension. Otherwise its a max of 14 days and even then you have to convince more than local plod on that matter. It's been mooted for years.

Third, we'll actually have control over our immigration post brexit... so yes?

On top of that, The Sun knows its audience, it knows that the majority of its readership want the death penalty back and hate the HRA because every time it made the news it was usually to keep some murderous bastard here in these shores at our expense.

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So it seems that several seats are expected to fall in Derbyshire where Labour now holds 4 seats. (Chesterfield, Derby South, Bolsover and Derbyshire North East).

Chesterfield and Derby South are expected to hold out with Derbyshire North East likely to collapse to the Tories this time around, which is something considering Derbyshire was once considered "The red county".

The one to watch, much to my surprise, is Bolsover where Labour has spent no resources whatsoever (Skinner's currently driving around his constituency, parking up in random places and then yelling into a microphone for a bit) and there's been a shockingly strong challenge by the Tories. He's defending a strong 10,000 majority but tongues are wagging over the gulf in the campaigns there so it could be on the "surprise results" list.

It's quite the surprise considering the evidence of "huge" rallies all over wherever Jesus Christ Jeremy Corbyn has been going that the party itself seems to have mostly neglected other seats in counties he badly needs to win.

Have a picture of Dennis, seeing as Guido put up the story just after I heard it too:

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Ponderous Pillock said:
On top of that, The Sun knows its audience, it knows that the majority of its readership want the death penalty back and hate the HRA because every time it made the news it was usually to keep some murderous bastard here in these shores at our expense.
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It also knows its audience is stupid enough it can bold up existing legislation [enacted by Blair and weakened by the Home Secretary in 2011...erm?] and pretend May just proposed it.

And although I cant remember the last item verbatim, "All human rights legislation" was a direct quote, so there goes the fucking weekend :(

I'm not knocking the policies, just The Sun and its slack jawed readership.

Ponderous Pillock said:
The one to watch, much to my surprise, is Bolsover where Labour has spent no resources whatsoever (Skinner's currently driving around his constituency, parking up in random places and then yelling into a microphone for a bit) and there's been a shockingly strong challenge by the Tories. He's defending a strong 10,000 majority but tongues are wagging over the gulf in the campaigns there so it could be on the "surprise results" list.
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That one caught me the other day.

Skinner is a Brexiteer and there are suggestions that he isnt "identity" enough so he's being sacrificed.

Wonder if he was offered a Peerage to fuck off? I'd have loved to have heard the reply.
 
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Pickle Inspector said:
Turns out one of the Labour candidates was in a band and wrote a song about how he's a nice guy in the friend zone but wishes he was a misogynist so he could beat her up to put her in her place - https://order-order.com/2017/06/07/...i-were-a-misogynist-id-smash-her-in-the-face/
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I want to laugh, but the little twerp might rid us of Nick Clegg tomorrow.... Which would rather offset his women punching lyrical tendancies.

Chemical snorfare said:
It also knows its audience is stupid enough it can bold up existing legislation [enacted by Blair and weakened by the Home Secretary in 2011...erm?] and pretend May just proposed it.

And although I cant remember the last item verbatim, "All human rights legislation" was a direct quote, so there goes the fucking weekend :(

I'm not knocking the policies, just The Sun and its slack jawed readership.
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Because it'll be under a load of overhauls and such, its The Sun, your average sun reader is a bloke with a white van, some sort of dog (usually a staffie) and owns at least one England flag that will appear the moment he hears as much as a rumour of an England Match.

Chemical snorfare said:
That one caught me the other day.

Skinner is a Brexiteer and there are suggestions that he isnt "identity" enough so he's being sacrificed.

Wonder if he was offered a Peerage to fuck off? I'd have loved to have heard the reply.

x2 I know, sorry.
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"YOU WANT ME TO BECOME FUCKING WHAT? YOU JUMPED UP METROPOLITAN TWERP!"

Either way, it's a sad state of affairs that Labour volunteers are so thin on the ground they're doing no campaigning or door knocking whatsoever and the people of Bolsover get treated to an 85 year old rambling about "TOREH SCUM" and how its all their fault nobody wants to invest in a seat where the man's a raving nutter.
 
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