UN UK Parliament is imploding - And I love it.

The biggest two parties in Britain are apparently facing some massive challenges according to the paps.

The Tories are facing a leadership challenge, with election guru Lynton Crosby apparently planning to stab Theresa May in the back and installing Boris as PM.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-uk-boris-johnson-lynton-crosby-a8519096.html

Theresa May’s premiership has suffered a severe blow after reports emerged that Tory election-guru Sir Lynton Crosby is running a campaign to kill off her Brexit proposals.

Sir Lynton is said to have ordered allies to work with hardline Brexiteers in the European Research Group (ERG) of Tory MPs to bring Ms May’s ‘Chequers’ deal down, something that could well lead to her fall.

Many ERG members back Boris Johnson as a future leader, and with Sir Lynton also having run two successful mayoral campaigns for him, the strategist’s appearance now is seen as a sign of growing momentum behind the ex-foreign secretary’s ambitions.

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It came as Ms May attempted to stiffen her support among Brexiteers – who think her plans will keep the UK too closely aligned with Brussels, by saying she will not be pushed around by the EU in negotiations and repeating her vow to deliver on the 2016 referendum.

Sir Lynton, who also advised Tory leaders in the 2015 election victory and last year’s shock poll when the Tories lost their majority, has sent a senior member of his firm CTF Partners to work with the ERG, The Sunday Times reported.

David Canxini will partner up with ex-Brexit minister Steve Baker, a key organiser in the Conservative Leave campaign ahead of the 2016 referendum.

French minister Nathalie Loiseau says May's Brexit plan is not possible
The newspaper reports that one option is to revive the campaign group Change Britain, with some seeing it as possible future platform for a Mr Johnson leadership drive.

But senior Tory sources were said to have warned that Mr Johnson’s leadership ambitions were destabilising Brexit and could lead to it falling through altogether.

The Sunday Times also reported that PM’s aides have held talks with senior civil servants about whether to call a general election if a Brexit deal is rejected by MPs.

With Brussels demanding further compromise, and a significant number on her own benches set to vote the deal down, let alone Labour, the odds are stacking up against Ms May’s deal passing through parliament.

People's Vote march – demanding vote on final Brexit deal
But the Prime Minister remained defiant and stood by her plan, writing in the Sunday Telegraph: “I will not be pushed into accepting compromises on the Chequers proposals that are not in our national interest.”

The PM also dismissed calls for a “People’s Vote” on the terms of withdrawal.

She said: “To ask the question all over again would be a gross betrayal of our democracy.”

The Independent has been running its own campaign for a Final Say referendum on whatever the outcome of Brexit is with almost three quarters of a million people having signed the petition.

Ms May also said Britain would get through a no-deal outcome and “thrive”.

But in the same newspaper high-profile Tory MP Nick Boles, who backed Remain at the referendum, came out against the Chequers deal.

He wrote that under current the plans, the UK faces “the humiliation of a deal dictated by Brussels”, which is treating the Chequers proposals as an “opening bid”

Whereas Labour is facing yet another no-confidence vote in Comrade Corbachev, and a party split when the moderates inevitably don't get their way because Momentum stuffed the ballots again.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...plan-new-political-party-anti-semitism-crisis

THE LABOUR Party is in a fresh crisis after details emerged of a planned coup against Jeremy Corbyn via a vote of no confidence to aid a plot to form a new political party backed by opposition MPs.
By DAN FALVEY
PUBLISHED: 00:40, Sun, Sep 2, 2018 | UPDATED: 05:01, Sun, Sep 2, 2018

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Jeremy Corbyn faces a coup as MPs plot to form new political party (Image: GETTY)
Moderate MPs are hoping a no-confidence vote will help MPs feel safe in expressing their anger at the party’s leadership.

According to the Sunday Times, they hope the vote will give MPs the chance to see they are not alone in their frustrations and will give them the confidence to then quit the party and form a breakaway.

Shadow chancellor John McDonnell has said he is "worried and saddened" at the prospect of a split in Labour.

Mr McDonnell told the New Statesman: "Yes, I think there are people who are willing to leave the party.

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"I think I'm saddened by that. I really am saddened and I'm disappointed."

The plan to undermine the Labour leader is understood to have originated from MPs’ frustration at Mr Corbyn’s failure to tackle accusations of anti-Semitism within the party.

In July, Labour refused to back to full definition of anti-Semitism as set out by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, causing outrage among party members.

Since then dozens of allegations of anti-Semitism have plague Labour.

John McDonnell has admitted he is 'worried' by the prospect of a Labour split (Image: GETTY)

Veteran MP Frank Field resigned the Labour whip on Thursday (Image: GETTY)
Referring to concerns over anti-Semitism, Brexit and MPs' careers, Mr McDonnell said: "If those are the issues that people want to split on, these are all issues which can be dealt with within the party.

"And I don't see them as fundamental issues that would encourage a split because there are opportunities for people not just to express their views but actually sometimes to win the argument as well.

"So, I don't understand why there is this sort of pre-emptive move to split off.”

On Thursday veteran Labour MP Frank Fields resigned the Labour whip, after accusing the leadership of presiding over a party which is becoming a "force for anti-Semitism".

Following his decision, Ilford South MP Mike Gapes, who has served for 26 years, also threatened to quit.

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Speaking out against the culture within Labour under Mr Corbyn, Mr Gapes said: “I am agonising every day about the situation and the state of the Labour Party.

“I will make my own decision about how I deal with this in my own time.”

MPs last triggered a no-confidence vote against Mr Corbyn after the June 2016 EU referendum.

On that occasion the left-wing leader brushed aside a 172 to 40 defeat, insisting his mandate from grassroots members was more important.

In a plea to those considering quitting the party, Mr McDonnell said: “I think that open door is always there to prevent that happening, because any split is automatically damaging."

Even John 'I <3 the IRA' McDonnell is shitting bricks at this thought, so you know it's imminent.

 

[JohnDoe]

The one without baby-stealing Dingos, mate.
Yeah. Professors, Doctors, executives in banks and companies, foreign experts, researchers, teachers... there's a lot of people from all sorts of backgrounds in the UK that are there on behalf of a university, company or the goverment itself to help them in various ways. People whom they have brought to their nation cause they need some expertise or work that they don't have on their disposal otherwise.
When I said that your suggestion would fuck over UK's society on every level, I was not exaggerating.

If those people are so vital, I am certain their new paperwork can be expedited.

Why should the UK escalate the Brexit to a point where nations start seizing each other's property, though?

It would be Brussels asserting claim over the UK's property and money that could escalate things - and even then it would never advance to the military stage because the EU has no military.

 

[Tealeaf]

Even a sovereign nation has to adhere to and respect treaties that it has signed and can't just throw them into the garbage whenever they want the moment they want.

They absolutely can!

It's just that the diplomatic cost of unilaterally exiting treaties is quite high. When you're known as an unreliable partner, you'll have a hard time making more treaties. Other countries might be driven to reciprocate and exit from additional treaties they've made with you. As good trade treaties become few and between, the economy also suffers.

But if a series of stupid politics leads the sovereign country to get out of lucrative international treaties, the country has all the rights in the world to follow through. This is a staple of a totalitarian dictatorship, but nothing stops a democratic government from doing so as well.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

Queen Lizzie needs to woman up and seize power already. I'm sure most Britons would rather have her as absolute monarch than the jokers in power now I'm sure.

absolute monarchy was abolished in 1649 - every monarch since Charles II has been constitutional, and since then and the early 20th century, the bulk of executive power has been moved more and more towards the elected government and away from the monarchy

I expect actual riots if they fuck up getting stock to the supermarkets

that's just par for the course with some supermarkets - round my way, Tesco is half empty after a bank holiday weekend, and stuff is often out of stock for weeks at a time

The funniest part is London is still a shithole.

Can't even get one city right. Might as well throw shit at the wall to see what sticks at the moment.

it's basically a containment zone for the rest of the country's fuck-ups and degenerates

 

[ISO'os]

May needs to be kicked off her high horse and return to her field of wheat

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

Is that really the case? It always sounded like propaganda floated by the globalists.

It may seem like it, but both sides have a lot to lose if the UK leaves. Of course Bongistan will not have to bend over for Brussels, that's for sure. But since they didn't reached an agreement on the leave deal, the UK would have to pay several hundred thousand Euros for that. And also Brussels would lose the UK, which is a pretty big hit for the EU since the UK leave has made them extremely wary about "independence referendums" and all that shit. Righ now, May is probably thinking in short term notice about this (AKA, having to pay a crapload of money to the EU, losing those sweet benefits, fishing privileges and being bullied economically by every country in Europe), which for the most part will hit London pretty hard, because it's the economical heart of Europe. And you don't want those investors and bankers to fuck off to Germany, don't you?

But on the long run, the UK would discover the benefits of not being in the stagnant single market of Europe, as well as not having to bend over for Brussels or the complaints of any other country over some inane shit.

May needs to be kicked off her high horse and return to her field of wheat

At this point, every single politician in Europe should get kicked out to whatever unholy cave they came from. Except Macron because he's causing so much fucking butthurt.

 

[JohnDoe]

At this point, every single politician in Europe should get kicked out to whatever unholy cave they came from. Except Macron because he's causing so much fucking butthurt.

Macron is an enemy of the people and should face Le Rasoir National.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

Macron is an enemy of the people and should face Le Rasoir National.

True on that, but i would let him stay a bit more. The french left has never been more asspained about their prez since Chirac.
But in the end he has to go since he has been accumulating more and more power in his figure. No wonder people compare him to Napoleon

 

[Chiang Kai-shek]

Good job parliament you fucked up.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

It may seem like it, but both sides have a lot to lose if the UK leaves. Of course Bongistan will not have to bend over for Brussels, that's for sure. But since they didn't reached an agreement on the leave deal, the UK would have to pay several hundred thousand Euros for that. And also Brussels would lose the UK, which is a pretty big hit for the EU since the UK leave has made them extremely wary about "independence referendums" and all that shit. Righ now, May is probably thinking in short term notice about this (AKA, having to pay a crapload of money to the EU, losing those sweet benefits, fishing privileges and being bullied economically by every country in Europe), which for the most part will hit London pretty hard, because it's the economical heart of Europe.

not to mention the industries in the rest of the country that do something other than pushing paper, and rely on materials brought in from the continent - if the supply of those materials becomes unreliable and subject to delays at customs, those industries are pretty much screwed

(a small consolation is that a large part of these industries were systematically destroyed in order to weaken political opposition - if that hadn't happened, this would be a much bigger problem)

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

If those people are so vital, I am certain their new paperwork can be expedited.

Guess what the UK and EU have been talking about this entire time.
Do you really think Brexiteers wanted a direct, immediate cut with a shitton of unresolved political issues? It seems you completely ignore that the UK has quite a few liabilities towards the EU, not just the other way around.
Bottom line: The UK is involved with the EU in many projects; political, social, economical. Add to that the cooperation of the military, police forces, border patrol, humanitarian work, medical facilities, etc. Then add everything banks, insurance companies, the stock market, etc. is doing. Now contemplate the fuckton of smaller companies and private stuff that's going on. Severing ties immedtiately would be an administrative clusterfuck with severe repercussions for the UK. Therefore this stuff needs to be sorted out before they can leave and it is in their best interest to do that before they leave. As of now, I have not seen any reason why the UK should have acted any other way - especially since they are bound by laws and rules that they accepted when they got involved with the EU in the first place. How is it a matter of discussion that countries are following rules that they accepted to follow out of their own free will? Rules, mind you, they are currently using to get what they wanted. Not the way they wanted, but that's not the EU's fault. That's on May and her political shenanigans.

tl;dr: There's a point why they scheduled this to take 2 years. A shitton of stuff has to be organized. Not doing so would be desastrous for the UK.

It would be Brussels asserting claim over the UK's property and money that could escalate things - and even then it would never advance to the military stage because the EU has no military.

I have a feeling you are deliberately missing the point here and we are going away further and further from the original point that I was making which had nothing to do with any nation laying unjust claim to what another owns, I was talking about companies working together which would suffer greatly when the legal status of that cooperation was wiped overnight.
An immediate leave without any sort of political resolution, no contract with the EU, no roadmap on how to do it is a logistical nightmare and the political suicide of a nation on a global scale.

As I said: A lot has been sorted out already, specifically visa status etc. Still, there's many things that people fear won't be resolved and are quite unhappy with their goverment. How anyone could suggest that going the extra mile of doing something where nothing is resolved and the whole situation gets shoved down an entire continent's throat -including the UK citizens- and claim that's 1) what people wanted when they clearly don't and 2) in any way, shape or form preferable to an attempt to resolve these issues before they arise next year is beyond me.

But if a series of stupid politics leads the sovereign country to get out of lucrative international treaties, the country has all the rights in the world to follow through. This is a staple of a totalitarian dictatorship, but nothing stops a democratic government from doing so as well.

In case you missed it: I am not saying the UK isn't allowed to leave. I say it's politically impossible to just pack up their shit and leave within hours of the Brexit vote.
There is absolutely nothing to be gained by doing so and there is so much shit that needs to be sorted out that just leaving throws up an absurd amount of legal, economical and social questions that it is, to all intents and purposes, indeed impossible.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

not to mention the industries in the rest of the country that do something other than pushing paper, and rely on materials brought in from the continent - if the supply of those materials becomes unreliable and subject to delays at customs, those industries are pretty much screwed

(a small consolation is that a large part of these industries were systematically destroyed in order to weaken political opposition - if that hadn't happened, this would be a much bigger problem)

True, but i was pondering if the UK still had some important industry. In that case, those factories would move out at least a month before the UK left the EU. Not only because of unreliable supply of materials, but also because the EU would veto the entry of those products with their fucking import taxes, making it pointless to trade with the EU. And let's not forget about Scotland threatening to secede again.

 

[Lysol]

There's one way to fix all of this shit overnight.

In any case, how would anybody else be worse than May? From what I understand she's someone who (for whatever reason) has gotten into a position far above her capabilities.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

In any case, how would anybody else be worse than May?

Well, there is Corbyn who is even worse tha her. I mean, even May dancing like a sperg in Africa doesn't match the sheer length Corbyn will fuck up in public every time he opens his mouth

 

[Lysol]

Well, there is Corbyn who is even worse tha her. I mean, even May dancing like a sperg in Africa doesn't match the sheer length Corbyn will fuck up in public every time he opens his mouth

I meant anybody in the Tory party that would be replacing her, not anybody in U.K. politics in general - hell I'm sure there's people in China laughing at how idiotic Corbyn is.

 

[Plissken]

The sooner it implodes, the better before we might get "Escape from the UK".

Kept you waiting, huh?

Still, hope springs eternal; the UK may be able to un-fuck itself yet. It'll take quite a few years and a lot of effort, but hey, the US is doing a pretty good job un-fucking itself, so Britain can do it too.

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

I meant anybody in the Tory party that would be replacing her, not anybody in U.K. politics in general - hell I'm sure there's people in China laughing at how idiotic Corbyn is.

Ok, then there you have a good one. Modern day politics is amazing, since it seems like failing upwards is the usual model every single political party in Europe uses to promote fuckwads into positions of power. Ironically, Italy has managed to break the curse.

Kept you waiting, huh?

Still, hope springs eternal; the UK may be able to un-fuck itself yet. It'll take quite a few years and a lot of effort, but hey, the US is doing a pretty good job un-fucking itself, so Britain can do it too.

That's when they get out of the EU, then there is hope as long as they get someone semi competent in charge. If the same idiots are still there, they will just pour salt on the wound. And even if the leave the EU, Juncker can still enact his "EU army".

 

[Plissken]

Ok, then there you have a good one. Modern day politics is amazing, since it seems like failing upwards is the usual model every single political party in Europe uses to promote fuckwads into positions of power. Ironically, Italy has managed to break the curse.



That's when they get out of the EU, then there is hope as long as they get someone semi competent in charge. If the same idiots are still there, they will just pour salt on the wound. And even if the leave the EU, Juncker can still enact his "EU army".

Armies require that people actually obey your orders. If Juncker tries to strong-arm the UK back into the EU with militant force, he will be looked upon as one of the most vile 'people' on the planet. I believe there is a word to describe the act of using fear or force to get people to comply with your demands... I can't quite put a word to it.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

True, but i was pondering if the UK still had some important industry. In that case, those factories would move out at least a month before the UK left the EU. Not only because of unreliable supply of materials, but also because the EU would veto the entry of those products with their fucking import taxes, making it pointless to trade with the EU. And let's not forget about Scotland threatening to secede again.

Many foreign companies have their EU-headquarters in London, which are rendered moot by Brexit, and unless the UK gives them some major incentives (ie: money) they are going to set up shop in the EU. Many insurance companies and banks are planning to come to Frankfurt or Paris.
This obviously weakens the Brit's position in negotiations.

Armies require that people actually obey your orders. If Juncker tries to strong-arm the UK back into the EU with militant force

This raises the question: Why should Juncker, or anyone from the EU for that matter, do something like that anyway? The UK has decided to leave the EU, so be it.

 

[JohnDoe]

Many foreign companies have their EU-headquarters in London, which are rendered moot by Brexit, and unless the UK gives them some major incentives (ie: money) they are going to set up shop in the EU. Many insurance companies and banks are planning to come to Frankfurt or Paris.

Are they planning to buy the property cheap after Paris is burned to the ground, or will they buy now and fortify?

 

[uncleShitHeel]

HEIL BORIS.

Seriously, you britfags, get rid of May. If we, your prison colony, can get rid of our useless globalist, you guys can too.

Wait, are you talking about Turnbull, Hillard, Rudd or Abbott?