Uber drivers are workers, Supreme Court rules

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Uber drivers must be treated as workers rather than self-employed, the UK's Supreme Court has ruled.

The decision could mean thousands of Uber drivers are set to be entitled to minimum wage and holiday pay.

The ruling could leave the ride-hailing app facing a hefty compensation bill, and have wider consequences for the gig economy.

Uber said the ruling centred on a small number of drivers and it had since made changes to its business.

In a long-running legal battle, Uber had appealed to the Supreme Court after losing three earlier rounds.

Uber's share price fell 1% on Wall Street's open as investors grappled with what impact the London ruling could have on the firm's business model.

It is being challenged by its drivers in multiple countries over whether they should be classed as workers or self-employed.

In the US, California voters passed a measure called Proposition 22 that will see freelance workers continue to be classified as independent contractors in November, overturning a landmark labour law passed in 2019.

Former Uber drivers James Farrar and Yaseen Aslam, who originally won an employment tribunal against the ride hailing app giant in October 2016, told the BBC they were "thrilled and relieved" by the ruling.

Uber appealed against the employment tribunal decision but the Employment Appeal Tribunal upheld the ruling in November 2017.

The company then took the case to the Court of Appeal, which upheld the ruling in December 2018.

The ruling on Friday was Uber's last appeal, as the Supreme Court is Britain's highest court, and it has the final say on legal matters.

Delivering his judgement, Lord Leggatt said that the Supreme Court unanimously dismissed Uber's appeal that it was an intermediary party and stated that drivers should be considered to be working not only when driving a passenger, but whenever logged in to the app.

The court considered several elements in its judgement:

  • Uber set the fare which meant that they dictated how much drivers could earn
  • Uber set the contract terms and drivers had no say in them
  • Request for rides is constrained by Uber who can penalise drivers if they reject too many rides
  • Uber monitors a driver's service through the star rating and has the capacity to terminate the relationship if after repeated warnings this does not improve
  • Looking at these and other factors, the court determined that drivers were in a position of subordination to Uber where the only way they could increase their earnings would be to work longer hours.

Uber has long argued that it is a booking agent, which hires self-employed contractors that provide transport.

By not being classified as a transport provider, Uber is not currently paying 20% VAT on fares.

The Supreme Court ruled that Uber has to consider its drivers "workers" from the time they log on to the app, until they log off.

This is a key point because Uber drivers typically spend time waiting for people to book rides on the app.

Previously, the firm had said that if drivers were found to be workers, then it would only count the time during journeys when a passenger is in the car.

Mr Aslam, who claims Uber's practices forced him to leave the trade as he couldn't make ends meet, is considering becoming a driver for the app again. But he is upset that the ruling took so long.

Mr Farrar points out that with fares down 80% due to the pandemic, many drivers have been struggling financially and feel trapped in Uber's system.

"We're seeing many of our members earning £30 gross a day right now," he said, explaining that the self-employment grants issued by the government only cover 80% of a driver's profits, which isn't even enough to pay for their costs.

The company said that if it had to classify drivers as workers, it would "incur significant additional expenses" in compensating the drivers for things such as the minimum wage and overtime.

"Further, any such reclassification would require us to fundamentally change our business model, and consequently have an adverse effect on our business and financial condition," it added.

Uber also wrote in the filing that if Mr Farrar and Mr Aslam were to win their case, HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) would then classify the firm as a transport provider, and Uber would need to pay VAT on fares.

HMRC and Uber are still in dispute about the firm's VAT liability.

Rachel Mathieson, senior associate at Bates Wells, which represented Mr Farrar and Mr Aslam, said her firm's position was that the ruling applies to all 90,000 drivers who have been active with Uber since and including 2016.

Dr Alex Wood, an Internet Institute research associate on the gig economy at the University of Oxford, disagrees and told the BBC that because the UK doesn't have a labour inspectorate, these "rules aren't enforced and it falls to workers to bring subsequent tribunals".

This means that "in reality, it's very easy for Uber to just ignore this until more tribunals come for the remaining 40,000 [drivers]".

 
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On another note regarding ride sharing app drivers being considered full time employees, I ask about it basically every time I take a trip in an uber / lyft. Almost all of the drivers want nothing to do with this and will probably quit if it ever happens state side.
It's always a bunch of Karens trying to ruin something that people want to do. Who are we to decide if some person shouldn't be allowed to drive people around for whatever price?
 
Cab industry can fucking die tho, awful customer service and a behind the times call system make taxis massively uncomfortable.
Gig economy is an even worse deal for the individual worker, you still make shit, and have to deal with the shitheaded public, but now you also have the added benefit of having to put your own capital at risk by exposing your own vehicle that you depend on to said shitheaded public and all of the wanton antisocial destructive tendencies that come with.
 
Well that's going to kill the industry, or at the very least make it very expensive.

Edit: fucking UK
I agree, but also agree it's the right call.... treating you as not a worker if you interface with your employer through an app, but still have rules to follow, is a scummy half-truth said with a straight face to just increase the grey-area of abuse they can get away with. I'm on the driver's side, but I also agree that anything they "win" will be a Pyrrhic victory that will result in the industry shutting down or massively scaling back rather than paying up, same as $15 minimum wage proponents. I'm only not for it because I realize that as soon as you "win" , you lose.

Then bubble popped because of ride sharing services and cabbies with million dollar medallions were having to compete with people who had $500 phones.

The whole thing was insane.

I don't like the gig economy, i think it's exploitative. But at the same time it slapped these mafiosi relationships between cabbies and city halls back into reality.
Same thing happened here locally, though without the political graft, it was still sad to see guys who'd drove a cab for 25 years and saved up every dime to start their own company, buy all the cars, all the shop space, all the drivers, all the mechanics, etc, and as soon as they "hung out the shingle", Uber came to town and obliterated them. A lot of ill-will towards Uber and the like is probably from that, which while technically not their fault, is understandable.

At least the blacksmiths had a few years to deal with the car replacing the horse, Uber happened literally overnight, costing the livlihoods of many a hard worker whose only "mistake" was cosmic bad timing...
 
Same thing happened here locally, though without the political graft, it was still sad to see guys who'd drove a cab for 25 years and saved up every dime to start their own company, buy all the cars, all the shop space, all the drivers, all the mechanics, etc, and as soon as they "hung out the shingle", Uber came to town and obliterated them. A lot of ill-will towards Uber and the like is probably from that, which while technically not their fault, is understandable.

At least the blacksmiths had a few years to deal with the car replacing the horse, Uber happened literally overnight, costing the livlihoods of many a hard worker whose only "mistake" was cosmic bad timing...
I feel bad for people like that vs. the New York situation because the NY situation was wholly of the regulatory bodies making due to their cozy relationship with cab companies.
 
Can we get a UK sticker for this?

Also, good luck with taxis you Britbongs. If a Kiwi has lived both in the US and the UK are the taxis as bad here as they are there?

And just like that thousands of uber drivers found that they no longer had jobs.
 
On another note regarding ride sharing app drivers being considered full time employees, I ask about it basically every time I take a trip in an uber / lyft. Almost all of the drivers want nothing to do with this and will probably quit if it ever happens state side.
state side would mean shifts and state laws vary with what that means. we dont do zero hours like the uk but some state have a minimum hours for a shift and daily overtime laws. 0

ca is the worst with 4 hour minimums and 8 hour overtime.

it would make flex time impossible. great for unions to organize.
 
Well done Uber, about time too!

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Uber to pay drivers a minimum wage, holiday pay and pensions

Uber says it will give its UK drivers a guaranteed minimum wage, holiday pay and pensions.

The ride-hailing app giant said drivers would earn at least the UK's National Living Wage, paid to the over 25s, of £8.72 an hour.

It comes one month after the US firm lost a legal battle in the UK, begun in 2016, over drivers' status.

Uber told the BBC it did not expect the change in drivers' conditions to mean higher fares.

In a hearing at the UK Supreme Court last month, Uber had argued it was a third-party booking agent, and its drivers were self employed.

But the court ruled its drivers were workers, a category that means they are entitled to minimum legal, holiday and pension rights.

The company is being challenged by its drivers in multiple countries over whether they should be classed as workers or self-employed.

Uber said the changes to its UK drivers' pay would come in almost instantly, from Wednesday, and form an earnings floor, not an earnings ceiling.

The company, which says it has 70,000 drivers in the UK, said the new rates would come on top of free insurance to cover sickness, injury and maternity and paternity payments which have been in place for all drivers since 2018.

Uber says payment will kick in at:
  • At least the minimum wage for over 25s, after accepting a trip request and after expenses.
  • All drivers will be paid holiday time based on 12.07% of their earnings, paid out on a fortnightly basis.
  • Drivers will automatically be enrolled into a pension plan with contributions from Uber alongside driver contributions, setting drivers up over the long term.
  • Continued free insurance in case of sickness or injury as well as parental payments, which have been in place for all drivers since 2018.
  • All drivers will retain the freedom to choose if, when and where they drive.
Jamie Heywood, regional general manager for Northern Europe at Uber, said: "Uber is just one part of a larger private-hire industry, so we hope that all other operators will join us in improving the quality of work for these important workers who are an essential part of our everyday lives."

Uber pointed out in its statement announcing the changes that a worker is a classification that is unique under UK employment law. Workers are not full-blown employees but are entitled to the minimum wage, holiday pay and a pension.

The company said the recent UK Supreme Court ruling had provided a clearer path forward as to a model that gives drivers the rights of worker status - while continuing to let them work flexibly.

In a long-running legal battle, Uber had finally appealed to the court after losing three earlier rounds. The Supreme Court ruled that Uber had to consider its drivers as "workers" from the time they logged onto the app, until they logged off.

This was a key point because Uber drivers typically spend time waiting for people to book rides on the app, for which they don't get paid.

Previously, the firm had said that if drivers were found to be workers, then it would only count the time during journeys when a passenger is in the car.

 
Well done Uber, about time too!

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Uber to pay drivers a minimum wage, holiday pay and pensions

Uber says it will give its UK drivers a guaranteed minimum wage, holiday pay and pensions.

The ride-hailing app giant said drivers would earn at least the UK's National Living Wage, paid to the over 25s, of £8.72 an hour.

It comes one month after the US firm lost a legal battle in the UK, begun in 2016, over drivers' status.

Uber told the BBC it did not expect the change in drivers' conditions to mean higher fares.

In a hearing at the UK Supreme Court last month, Uber had argued it was a third-party booking agent, and its drivers were self employed.

But the court ruled its drivers were workers, a category that means they are entitled to minimum legal, holiday and pension rights.

The company is being challenged by its drivers in multiple countries over whether they should be classed as workers or self-employed.

Uber said the changes to its UK drivers' pay would come in almost instantly, from Wednesday, and form an earnings floor, not an earnings ceiling.

The company, which says it has 70,000 drivers in the UK, said the new rates would come on top of free insurance to cover sickness, injury and maternity and paternity payments which have been in place for all drivers since 2018.

Uber says payment will kick in at:
  • At least the minimum wage for over 25s, after accepting a trip request and after expenses.
  • All drivers will be paid holiday time based on 12.07% of their earnings, paid out on a fortnightly basis.
  • Drivers will automatically be enrolled into a pension plan with contributions from Uber alongside driver contributions, setting drivers up over the long term.
  • Continued free insurance in case of sickness or injury as well as parental payments, which have been in place for all drivers since 2018.
  • All drivers will retain the freedom to choose if, when and where they drive.
Jamie Heywood, regional general manager for Northern Europe at Uber, said: "Uber is just one part of a larger private-hire industry, so we hope that all other operators will join us in improving the quality of work for these important workers who are an essential part of our everyday lives."

Uber pointed out in its statement announcing the changes that a worker is a classification that is unique under UK employment law. Workers are not full-blown employees but are entitled to the minimum wage, holiday pay and a pension.

The company said the recent UK Supreme Court ruling had provided a clearer path forward as to a model that gives drivers the rights of worker status - while continuing to let them work flexibly.

In a long-running legal battle, Uber had finally appealed to the court after losing three earlier rounds. The Supreme Court ruled that Uber had to consider its drivers as "workers" from the time they logged onto the app, until they logged off.

This was a key point because Uber drivers typically spend time waiting for people to book rides on the app, for which they don't get paid.

Previously, the firm had said that if drivers were found to be workers, then it would only count the time during journeys when a passenger is in the car.

If this trend continues elsewhere it will kill them. Their entire business model relies on getting special treatment regarding labor and transportation regs. I sense major restructuring coming soon.
 
I agree, but also agree it's the right call.... treating you as not a worker if you interface with your employer through an app, but still have rules to follow, is a scummy half-truth said with a straight face to just increase the grey-area of abuse they can get away with. I'm on the driver's side, but I also agree that anything they "win" will be a Pyrrhic victory that will result in the industry shutting down or massively scaling back rather than paying up, same as $15 minimum wage proponents. I'm only not for it because I realize that as soon as you "win" , you lose.


Same thing happened here locally, though without the political graft, it was still sad to see guys who'd drove a cab for 25 years and saved up every dime to start their own company, buy all the cars, all the shop space, all the drivers, all the mechanics, etc, and as soon as they "hung out the shingle", Uber came to town and obliterated them. A lot of ill-will towards Uber and the like is probably from that, which while technically not their fault, is understandable.

At least the blacksmiths had a few years to deal with the car replacing the horse, Uber happened literally overnight, costing the livlihoods of many a hard worker whose only "mistake" was cosmic bad timing...

Most of these big tech innovations amount to little more than replacing entire layers of management with technology, which then lets you restructure your business in a way that allows you to an end run around the letter of various laws. Another thing they do is offload a bunch of costs from accountants and attorneys onto people who are too dumb to understand what they're actually responsible for.
 
The gig economy goes hand in hand with temporary foreign workers and waves of 3rd world immigrants. It's an industry that shouldn't exist unless we want a subservient underclass of terminally poor.

If uber wants things to work their way they should let drivers set their own fares and let them have free reign of who they pick up and when. But that would mean entire ghetto areas getting 0 service. I'd be on uber's side if they supplied vehicles or gas subsidies, but as it stands they're having their cake and eating it too.
 
The most important aspect of the gig economy is recognizing that long-term asset depreciation is a complex topic that most people, even those with college educations, don't understand, so if you require your workers to shoulder that cost themselves, you can trick them into accepting lower pay.
 
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