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Twitter must face billionaire​

Brent Richter, North Shore News - Jan 14, 2021 / 5:36 pm | Story: 321956
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A defamation lawsuit from West Vancouver's Frank Giustra may proceed in B.C.'s Supreme Court
Twitter must answer to a defamation lawsuit from West Vancouver billionaire Frank Giustra in Canada, the B.C. Supreme Court has ruled.
Giustra, the founder or part owner of numerous businesses in mining, securities, private equity, farming and film, sued Twitter in 2019, alleging the social media giant allowed false and defamatory messages to be posted about him.
The suit alleged that because of his support of Hilary Clinton in the 2016 U.S. election and his philanthropy and support of the Clinton Foundation, he faced accusations that he was corrupt, that he was a murderer and that he was involved in Pizzagate, a “discredited and malicious conspiracy theory in which he was labelled a ‘pedophile,’” the 2019claim stated.
Rather than file a response to Giustra’s claim, Twitter sought to have the matter dismissed out of B.C. courts, arguing that California, where Twitter has its headquarters, would be the correct jurisdiction.
“One of the significant factors in this case is that both parties acknowledge that under the law of the United States, Twitter would have no liability to Mr. Giustra pursuant to the freedom of speech protection in the First Amendment to the United States Constitution…,” B.C. Supreme Court Justice Elliott Myers noted in a 37-page ruling released on Thursday. “No such statutory protection exists in Canada. Whether the Canadian common law provides or should provide similar protection to a platform such as Twitter would be a matter for an ultimate trial and was not argued in this application.”
In deciding whether the case should be heard here, Myers had to consider things like media clippings amassed by lawyers on both sides, citing where Giustra lived and conducted business.
Under Canadian case law, internet defamation “takes place where the defamatory statements are read, accessed or downloaded by a third party,” Myers wrote. Although there is no direct evidence of who read the offending tweets, there are about 500,000 Twitter users in B.C. where Giustra argued his reputation was being damaged, he added.
“On the evidence, there can be no dispute that Mr. Giustra has a significant reputation in British Columbia. He also has strong ties to the province. The fact that he has a reputation in or connections to other jurisdictions does not detract from that. Giustra is not, as implied by Twitter, relying on his mere residence in British Columbia; rather he is relying on his reputation here,” Myers wrote.
Apart from a small Toronto subsidiary that deals mainly with marketing, Twitter has no staff and no presence in Canada, the company pointed out. Twitter also argued that most of the witnesses it would call in its defence would be in California and that there would be no mechanism to enforce a B.C. court ruling in a jurisdiction where it has no assets.
Myers rejected Twitter’s arguments and concluded B.C. has jurisdiction over Giustra’s claim.
Twitter has 30 days to decide whether it will appeal the B.C. Supreme Court decision on jurisdiction. The company must still file a response to Giustra’s claim within 21 days of the jurisdictional matter being decided.

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https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/32...nk-Giustra-defamation-suit-in-B-C-court-rules
 
Silly tweeters, Giustra isn't a pedo because he donated to Hillary, he's a pedo because he's a billionaire!

Nonetheless Giustra yes. And hopefully Canada will take this chance to shit all over an American company. Take Dorsey to the cleaners you pedo faggot.
 
... but what does it mean for kiwifarms.
Because it is in Canada, nothing. Twitter tried to argue BC was not the jurisdiction for this case because both parties knew, and the article says so as well, that they could slap it down with section 230 and free speech if it was in the US.

The case is hinging that Twitter was harming Giustra’s reputation to other Twitter users in BC, so therefore Twitter was complicit with the defamation. Kinda hard to work Kiwi Farms into that kind of logic.
 
Because it is in Canada, nothing. Twitter tried to argue BC was not the jurisdiction for this case because both parties knew, and the article says so as well, that they could slap it down with section 230 and free speech if it was in the US.

The case is hinging that Twitter was harming Giustra’s reputation to other Twitter users in BC, so therefore Twitter was complicit with the defamation. Kinda hard to work Kiwi Farms into that kind of logic.
Has anyone been materially harmed by KF before? I'm fairly new here, and was under the impression that we're just the Statler and Waldorf of the internet.
 
Has anyone been materially harmed by KF before? I'm fairly new here, and was under the impression that we're just the Statler and Waldorf of the internet.
At the risk of embracing the glow, not that I am aware of. The people who do really cringy stuff get rediculed and booted pretty quickly.
 
Has anyone been materially harmed by KF before? I'm fairly new here, and was under the impression that we're just the Statler and Waldorf of the internet.
Coach Red Pill bitched about something like that before where someone who he in talks with saw his Thread but im sure every cow would say they are materialy harmed if they could get away with it.
 
Has anyone been materially harmed by KF before? I'm fairly new here, and was under the impression that we're just the Statler and Waldorf of the internet.
It's hard to say. I've never seen KF cited as a source for ruination before, but it seems hard to believe that someone interested wouldn't take advantage of the huge amount of curated and indexed content here.

Given the reputation of this site, anyone wishing to maintain credibility would likely refer to the original material without referencing KF.
 
Because it is in Canada, nothing. Twitter tried to argue BC was not the jurisdiction for this case because both parties knew, and the article says so as well, that they could slap it down with section 230 and free speech if it was in the US.

The case is hinging that Twitter was harming Giustra’s reputation to other Twitter users in BC, so therefore Twitter was complicit with the defamation. Kinda hard to work Kiwi Farms into that kind of logic.
Null should still preemptively IP ban all leafs just to be safe.
 
Has anyone been materially harmed by KF before? I'm fairly new here, and was under the impression that we're just the Statler and Waldorf of the internet.

The christchurch shooting which was streamed on Facebook, and the shooters manifisto which was posted to I wanna say 8chan.

See Jersh rehosted the video and the manifesto which means we did it.

Also the farms is pretty hard on trannys and they are over represented in tech soo there is alot pressure to take us down.
 
What would happen if Twitter didn't show up to defend themselves, some sort of default judgment was awarded and Twitter went on to ignore that? Would Twitter be IP banned in Canada or something? Would there be a method to enforce the judgment of a Canadian court in the US?

I guess I'm thinking of @Null giving New Zealand the brush-off when the mosque shootings happened, though that probably isn't applicable here.
 
no such thing as 230 in canada.

Maybe the way to fuck over giant social media is through international lawsuits. Afterall, they are doing business worldwide.
Even if there was - Twitter as a company has expressly stated (and attached automatic tweets/notes/other things to) people discussing America's 2020 election fraud as "false".

Because they didn't do this for Pizzagate (and continue to not do so) it can be interpreted as something Twitter treats as "true". So by taking selective action, this sort of lawsuit (IANAL) seems like it would have traction even in the USA.
 
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