From a contemporary standpoint, the relationship between
Frodo Baggins and Samwise Gamgee often goes way past mere friendship, or boss-subordinate
You could have left it as this, for the period it was written and as it should've been today, Frodo and Sam are simply friends, there is no subtle theme here or there. This is the same as faggots who think Artemis of Greek mythology was a lesbian because she swore off relationships and ran around with an army of female hunters.
There was that bit in the RotK film where Sam helps Frodo to his feet on Mount Doom by grasping him by the hips from behind? On top of that (punintended) the great reunion after the ring is destroyed where Merry and Pippin's first instinct on seeing their friend is awake is to climb into bed with him under the gleeful eyes of a maniacally laughing
Ian McKellen!
If you just went throughHell and back I think you'd be laughing too, again these are all friends who bonded over their journeys separate and together.
On top of all this, Sam has to go rescue Frodo from the Orcs' tower... and Frodo is nude when Sam eventually finds him.
Yeah, because the Orcs stripped him naked searching for valuables. Tolkien doesn't go into detail on how girthy Frodo's Hobbit cock is you projecting fag.
The Crowning Moment of Ho Yay in the books is when Gollum comes sneaking up and finds Sam, asleep, with the also-asleep
Frodo's head in his lap. As if that weren't enough, there's also plenty of
Purple Prose about the fact that Sam's cradling Frodo's face. Even for the most physically demonstrative platonic friendship, that's way over the line. Heck, if Frodo had been
dying, face-cradling would still be a bit much.
This is a humanizing moment for Gollum if I recall as suddenly he is shown as a very tired, very frail, aged Hobbit, not a twisted and demented monster that only works for, not with, Frodo.
Ah, and let's not forget Sam constantly referring to Frodo as "my dear". And how Sam occasionally kisses Frodo on the forehead or hand in the book.
Different. Fucking. Time. Period. Read any letter from the Victorian Era or prior and notice how sincere people are to each other for fucks sake. I doubt Queen Victoria was sexually attracted to her sons or George Washington buttfucking John Adams.
Randal Graves lampshades the
Ho Yay between Sam and Frodo in
Clerks II when he points out the "very gay look" that Sam gives Frodo in the scene where he wakes up from his coma with Pippin and Merry. He then goes on to make fun of them so cruelly that it causes a
Rings fanboy customer to throw up.
You are citing fucking Clerks II. Clerks fucking II.
The last chapter of the book also has this gem, where Bilbo asks Sam when he is going to move in and join him, and Sam just looks at him awkwardly. Then, when Sam hesitates, Frodo reassures him that his grandfather (with whom he lived up until then) will be close by, so he won't miss him. When Sam reveals he is going to marry a girl he met, Frodo, without skipping a beat, suggests that she can move in too. And they do.
This is a blatant fabrication. By the end of the books Bilbo is chilling in Rivendell and the Hobbits are fixing up the Shire after Saruman's goons fucked it up. Bilbo only returns when he and Frodo are going to the Grey Havens and they just chat about the Ring.
Even when Sam calls Frodo "master," this trope makes it take on a BDSM connotation.
FRODO IS HIS FUCKING EMPLOYER. SAM'S FAMILY TENDS THE BAGGIN'S GARDENS YOU PROJECTING FAGGOT!!! I guess Chattel slavery was actually BDSM all this time, who knew the Southerners were so progressive to have gay interracial sex?
Not to mention the "great love that grew between Gimli and Legolas", quote from Return of the King. They warm up to each other during the course of the books, then travel to Middle-Earth together and end up sharing a boat bound for Valinor. (The last time an elf brought a non-elf to Valinor for affection rather than medical reasons was (probably) Idril Celebrindal bringing Tuor son of Huor. Her husband.)
Heterosexual Life-Partners at the very least.
Because there has been bad blood between elves and dwarves you mongoloid. They become friends just like everyone else in the Fellowship. Next you'll tell me Aragorn has been in the closet this whole time. The whole friendship between Gimli and Legolas is to show that even races that distrust eachother can become friends.
Sure, it's Legolas and Gimli in the novels. But the love belongs more to Legolas and Aragorn in the films.
- As evidenced by this famous promotional picture
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- There's a scene in Two Towers where Legolas returns the Evenstar to Aragorn after he returns from his fall off the cliff. Meanwhile, Éowyn looks on from a distance, shocked, apparently under the impression that Legolas and Aragorn are romantically involved. The intensity of eye contact and gratuitous touching doesn't really make a case against her assumption.
Yes that promo picture is very erotic, just two dudes in Rohan. This is also a fabrication, I have seen the trilogy mroe times than I can count and there is no sensual touching of eachother.
Not to mention Pippin and Merry. Yeah, they're cousins, but Merry's wife Estella was also his cousin. Pippin also married, but that doesn't stop the fans from seeing Ho Yay. After all, the two tend to stay as close together as possible, when they are separated it's like some sort of tragedy, and after the war they not only buy a house together and stay there for as long as they can, they also left the Shire together to go off and die with the humans, leaving wives and children behind. Although it's notable that while Merry and Pippin are joined at the hip from their first second on-screen in the movies, in the books the closeness isn't apparent until later. In fact, it's actually Merry and Frodo who seem to be the bestest buds in Fellowship, and Merry even lived with Frodo for a while after Bilbo left.
Frodo is also cousins to Merry and Pippin. The only reason Merry bunks with Frodo is because it is part of the cover to leave the Shire quietly in the books. TLDR, Frodo sells Bag End to live with his Brandybuck relations and buys a small house there Merry is keeping warm. They only stay for a few days before slipping out. I am surprised this homo doesn't mention the bathing song.
In the novels there seems to be something between Faramir and Aragorn. Faramir only wakes when he hears the voice of his 'King', and the at-first-glance adoration and loyalty is rather intense.
- Mind that Éowyn, who has been unhappily in love with Aragorn for most of the book does not wake up at the sound of his voice (her brother succeeds in the task). Faramir on the other side...
- Also when Éowyn tells Faramir the reasons why she thought she was in love with Aragorn (noble, strong, wise and kind), Faramir's respone amounts to "Yeah, who wouldn't love Aragorn."
Faramir admires Aragorn the same way Boromir does in the books, a man to lead Gondor in it's time of crisis and see it grow once again. Faramir waxes stoicly about this in the books if you can see more context beyond two dudes wanting to buttfuck. The whole Houses of Healing chapter is just to further legitimze Aragorn as a kingly man in all aspects of the title and is semi-Jesus allegory.
- Not to mention the words between Aragorn and Éomer when they meet at the battle of the Pelennor Fields...
- Then there's Aragorn and Boromir. The heartfelt, almost desperate confession in Lothlórien... And of course: My brother, my captain, my King. Boromir is the first person to acknowledge Aragorn as King, and basically propel him into wanting to be King at all.
By this point in the book Eomer and Aragorn are battle brothers who fought at Helm's Deep together. Aragorn has just arrived to turn the tide with forces from Southern Gondor and breaks Eomer's forces out of an encirclement.
- The gender ratio being what it is, it's easy to see lots of Ho Yay in The Silmarillion as well. Ah, all the manly friendships out there...Maedhros/Fingon, Beleg/Túrin, Gil-galad/Elrond...Anything goes.
This is just fucking "fandom" shipping at this point. And I don't mean people who respect Tolkien's life's work fans, I mean Anime-tier fans who need to make everything a gay ship or some other projection. This idiot has never clearly read the Silmarillion, or got lost on the creation story because if he did he'd hopefully understand the whole series of tales.
Maedhros/Fingon deserves its own special mention. They were best friends back in the good old days. When Fëanor ordered his followers to burn the stolen Teleri ships on the shores of Beleriand, Maedhros was the only one of his sons to object, basically saying "Fingon's over there! We need to go back!" and was the only one to stand aside while the ships were destroyed. Later, Maedhros is captured, and when Fingon hears of it he immediately sets out to rescue him alone, letting no one reason with him or stop him. He finds Maedhros in Angband by
singing in the wilderness. (Remember, this is how
Official Couple Beren and Luthien found each other when Beren was imprisoned in Angband.) He sees Maedhros hanging from a cliff and weeps because there doesn't seem to be a way to save him—but then Thorondor, king of the eagles, is sent by Manwë to assist him. Fingon then manages to fly up and rescue Maedhros by
cutting off his hand (which also parallels Beren losing a hand at the climax of their story). Afterwards, Maedhros relinquishes the title of High King in favor of Fingolfin, Fingon's father. Much later, Maedhros and Fingon form an alliance to defeat Morgoth once and for all, and
while that ends terribly, it's clear they remained close throughout the First Age until Fingon's death. There's even a cute moment in one of the histories where Maedhros is gifted the fabulous Dragon-helm of Dor-lomin and immediately gives it to Fingon.
Fingon is Maedhros's cousin. Their relationship is a fucking kinship and Maedhros, while repentant of his and his father's crimes, is a son of Feanor nonetheless, IE one of seven pretty awful people in the Silmarillion. He gifts Fingon his title and a helm as a thank you for saving him from Morgoth's torment. Trying to tie this in with Beren and Luthien is blatantly obvious as Beren was seeking refuge from orc band when he came upon Luthien and fell in love, not on a quest to save his kinsmen and technical liege.
Needless to say, all this speculation would have shocked and possibly horrified Tolkien himself, an intensely conservative and devout man born in 1892, whose mores were thoroughly Victorian.
I think anyone would be horrified at how sloppily you try and ship everyone to justify your gay fanfic rewrite.
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